Originally posted by Taako Man: Thanks for being upfront and honest. You're quite welcome. Violet I believe I have said all there is to say on this matter, in case you forgot here it is.. NO God-fearing person would dare show allegiance to a leader who would bring in kafirs to fight our brothers and sisters in Islam. When I say you and your lot, I mean those who support this pathetic excuse for a man because of Qabil, one quick glance at the threads in the politics section and one can't help but wonder whether this particular clan cares about the well being of Somalia and Somali's in general or about subjugating others No one else around here exercises political correctness, I don't see why I should either. I never said I disliked anyone from any region, I harbour no ill-feelings towards any Somali. You accuse me of supporting President Abdullahi for clan-reasons and like I said before, even if that were the case, is that not my right? As I said before it is, just as it is mine to say what I did, I still can't help but wonder whether the supporters of mr. Warlord and co would be sitting here singing about a government if it was Aweys who was elected in Nairobi. Perhaps I did get carried away (20 mins in this section and anyone would), my apologies Violet, Taako and others. Anyway back to my main point (and what led to this fruitless argument in the first place) you can't accuse A Yusuf's critics to be masking qabilism behind their comments, they stem from all backgrounds and come from every Qabil (including his), whereas his supporters...well think I covered this before anywho cafis Violet

W/salam Ameen you would be surprised but not many people know that this is an innovation, and if they do, many people acquaint this with a form of cibada (they argue that they make dua and recite Quran etc). People are shocked when you tell them that all forms of bidca, even those they might think is good...is not allowed. If you don't tell them, who will?

Well Khalaf you be the judge....if i'm a clanist bigot, what on earth is she?

Originally posted by Violet: quote:Originally posted by Khalaf: ^^^^Ayar ina adeer c'mon now, i doubt she meant what she said, she just got caught up in the mix, mantra is cool. "Khalaf, are you taking over idamaale or soon to be appointed presidential religious ministry?" hahaha i could never serve a secular government sxb wa corruption Aboowe, read her comments. She said she hates his supporters and their clan and now she says he should go rule Puntland..What the hey? :confused: You know her better than I, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. She should clarify her statements and be more clear next time. Edit: You're right. I'm sorry about the beard comment, I was just trying to point out that those who never supported the ICU for religious reasons have already given up their act. I meant no harm. It's funny you're getting worked up about qabil (only one tribe seems to support Yusuf), I have to ask whether you would be praising long bearded men if they were from a certain region??? My dear you set out to 'expose' the alleged hypocrisy of A Yusuf haters...I merely highlighted yours. I'm confused as to when exactly I claimed to be a UIC supporter, I do not support the TGF because first and foremost I will not support a secular government being set up in a muslim country, be it Somalia or Zamunda. NO God-fearing person would dare show allegiance to a leader who would bring in kafirs to fight our brothers and sisters in Islam. When I say you and your lot, I mean those who support this pathetic excuse for a man because of Qabil, one quick glance at the threads in the politics section and one can't help but wonder whether this particular clan cares about the well being of Somalia and Somali's in general or about subjugating others... your signature chooses to wipe off an entire country and you get worked up about my puntland jibe?....again....how utterly typical. Khalaf, thanks..... and sorry for making you want to eat your words

Mawlid (Celebrating the Prophet Muhammad's Birthday) According to Quran and Sunnah Only Celebrating the Prophet's birthday is bida (an innovation in the religion); the Prophet (saaws) did not instruct others to do it, and he didn't have companions around him doing it and then give any type of permission (including silent permission). We are not to make distinction between any of the Prophets. Distinction in status, for instance. Like to say one is better than another. This leads to idol worship, similar to what the christians did when they began to worship Jesus instead of treat him as the Prophet he was. They just took it a step too far.. and kept running with it, up to what it is today. The Prophet (sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) has said: Do not over praise me as the Christians over-praised the son of Mary. I am His slave so say: 'Allah's slave and messenger' [Al-Bukhaari and Muslim] What is important about each Prophet and/or Messenger is the MESSAGE. THE DANGER OF INNOVATIONS IN THE DEEN Hadith - Reported by an-Nasaa'ee (3/188). "… The most truthful speech is the Book of Allaah. The best way is the way of Muhammad. The worst of affairs are the novelties and every novelty is an innovation and every innovation is misguidance and every misguidance is in the Fire." [saheeh according to Sheikh al-Albaanee in Saheeh Sunan in-Nasaa'ee (no. 1487)] MAKE NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN PROPHETS/MESSENGERS The Noble Qur'an 2:285 The Messenger (Muhammad ) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allâh, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)." The Noble Qur'an 2:136 Say (O Muslims), "We believe in Allâh and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob), and to Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Mûsa (Moses) and 'Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islâm)." The Noble Qur'an 4:152 And those who believe in Allâh and His Messengers and make no distinction between any of them (Messengers), We shall give them their rewards, and Allâh is Ever Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful. The Noble Qur'an 3:84 Say (O Muhammad ): "We believe in Allâh and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (Ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob) and Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)] and what was given to Mûsa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allâh) we have submitted (in Islâm)." THE SHIRK OF EXCESSIVE PRAISE So, now then, we say to those who insist on celebrating the Prophet's birthday.... with clear proof not to distinguish between the Prophets... why don't you celebrate ALL the Prophet's birthday's? Like Jesus'? You can do it on Dec. 25th or pick another date if you want. Oh, I see, you know better than to celebrate Jesus' birthday?? Maybe the reasons you shouldn't be celebrating Jesus' birthday, are the same reasons not to celebrate Muhammad's birthday? The Noble Qur'an 7:190 But when He gave them a Sâlih (good in every aspect) child, they ascribed partners to Him (Allâh) in that which He has given to them. High be Allâh, Exalted above all that they ascribe as partners to Him. (Tafsir At-Tabarî, Vol.9, Page 148). Clear proof. But some call it "love" to go beyond what they were commanded. Excessive praise of a person is forbidden. It falls into shirk quickly. Doing anything in excess of what we were commanded to do, is exceeding the limits and oppressing oneself. Hadith - Tirmidhi #417 A desert Arab came to Allah's Apostle and asked him about ablution. He demonstrated (washing each part of his body) thrice, and then said: That is (the method) of the ablution. And he who does more than this has done wrong, transgressed the limit and has oppressed (himself). [Transmitted by Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, and Abu Dawud transmitted something to the same effect.] The Noble Qur'an - An-Nisa 4:171 O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allâh aught but the truth. ... http://muttaqun.com/mawlid.html

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Originally posted by Violet: ]If I want to support the President based on qabiil, it's my prerogative. I have that right. You, on the other hand, claim to be for an Islamic state and thus you can't hate or love anyone based on their qabil. How can you claim to be a "Mujahid" and at the same time dislike a certain clan? You are as clanist as the next Somali, the only difference is you claim to be religious. Talk about being morally bankrupt, how can you use and abuse the religion like that? Ever heard of cognitive dissonance?! My signature may bother you, but you're gonna have to live with it. The fact is Abdullahi Yusuf is the President of Somalia. [/QB] Anyone who finds A Yusuf and his 'govt' a big farce is a mujahid now? what does that tell you about your dearest adeer? I havent said anything as to who you should or shouldnt support, you're right it is your prerogative, and it's mine to dislike you, your lot and everything you stand for...it's only normal that I should do so. Here is a more realistic map, perhaps A Yusuf can be king of puntland?

I'm getting the hang of this. Many people on this website try to mask there dislike of a particular clan by hiding behind ambiguous words and phrases so as to not break any rules even more people in this site try and hide behind "patriotism" to mask their qabilism...I can't help but dislike them and the tribe they represent, not only because they believe that it is they and they alone who deserve to hold power in Somalia, but also because they are so morally bankrupt as to support a murderer all in the name of reer hebel. one other thing, your signature is absolutely disgusting...and very typical.

lol Sulekha...worthy excuse I got the last one wrong!

Disgusting walahi, you two need to seriously seek help.

lol Xalimo the new body shop spring colours simply arent for Africans! I haven't bought make up in ages...I'll hit town tomorrow. I hate wearing make-up, coming home in the wee hours of the morning after a terrible somali wedding, the last thing you want to do is struggle with facial wash cloths and what not. I'll go check out kensington too inshallah, by the way this mascara is great

^^^ dude a warning next time! akhas

Originally posted by JLee: Eye liner, Mascara and lip gloss ^^^For the days I wake up looking like Shrek. You can get great foundations from either Mac or Iman, blush from Ruby and Millie (really great, never fades), Mac also have great eyeshadows...that's all you need. Application isnt all that hard, just get creative...

I have no idea what motivates people to defile plastic/vinyl whatever it is they are made out of. I'm officially boycotting the Women's section.

Originally posted by XulaXu: I'm such a fan of Rudy , I've always liked him, but this quote turned me from a harmless admirer to the self-proclaimed creator of the Rudy Cult quote: u telling me that u got married to have kids!! wow..i guess u turn the lites off 2 Red-sea and yell the train is coming...and she shouts the lite is green...! ^ | | | | This warrants the creation of a tribute shrine, here's the one in my house: Oh yeah, so I nominate Rudy for the Funniest Poster Award! whoa! I nominate Xu for the crazy creepy stalker award (spotlight off JB). Am I the only person who doesn't find Rudy remotely funny? Something isnt right here...

Originally posted by me: Well: General Duke for the Hate award Badacase/shucayb for the labawajiile award. lol, spot on!

I'm sorry the singing part was funny.. I happen to know a girl who would absolutely love to be a part of this. This should be interesting.

whoa! who would've thought such a character capable of such words..

"between the sheets"...don't you think that's rather crass?

subhanallah! I pictured the inevitable, powerful words

What Famous Leader Are You? personality tests by similarminds.com lol pot smokers...tragic mountain death... couldnt agree more.

Originally posted by Paragon: ^^^Viking lol@Sinzia. Very good, I know. Corney lyrics- "I wish I could be your saliva, so that I could tase your lips whenever' lol. Even more corny 'I wish I could be your shoe, so that I could have a better view' The rest, is too risky to mention. Back to the topic, no Vikes, I have no problem with copy rights. lool what a filthy song, Kenyan's are worse than Somali's when it comes to creativity, I can't believe a Somali "movie" generated this much argument....talks of legal action

3. As a Somali sporting a Brit Passport; would I be treated with dignity---- What is the perception (current one) of the likes of me; Somali with a british passport? At the airport steer away from Phillipino custom officials on power trips. I bet you'll be missing the good ol' British weather, who knew it was possible..

Originally posted by Nubia: These young adults are crying out for help, they have been uprooted and thrust into an alien country where they are expected to adept so effortlessly. Sounds a bit like you're trying to justify the actions of these shaydaamin, may they rot in jail. Their actions have little to do with lack of adapting to British society, most of them were probably born here and consider Somalia to be an alien country.. As for having an effective organization dealing with issues affecting Somali's... yeah right is all i can say.

If you see something that you are not pleased with, change it with your actions, if not your actions, your tongue, if not that, then with your heart. There's a hadith that goes along those lines, do what you can to help your brother's and sister's, but always remember it's not up to you, at the end of the day Allah guides who He wills.