Xaaji Xunjuf;909675 wrote: Not that Somaliland will join Somalia. they rather join Ukraine than join Somalia This is why i've always supported independence for Somaliland.

Blessed, Believe you me i was a fighter. Growing up in Australia (pre somali influx) with so much racism forced you to become that way. I couldn't tolerate what i perceived as bullying. Alhamdullilah i grew out of it by my early teens. *Blessed;901255 wrote: I don't like Somaali dugsi, beatings aside most of them in my opinion (from experience) don't instil love of Allah and the deen and will never send my child to one. I did go to this dugsi run by the Somali community organisation, our teachers were not wadaads but your average guys who knew Quran.. on Eid, we used to have riwayad type parties and some of our teachers would be singing love songs and playing the guitar lol Same here. The thought of sending my children to a Somali dugsi gives me hives. I think the Eritrean’s do a better job here; they aren’t so fixated on memorizing rather understanding and loving the Quran and Allah. Che, At least you can laugh about it- friday was the worst day of the week and saturday afternoons were the best because it meant that dugsi was over for another 6 days. I stopped going at the age of 15 to the somali dugsi.

I hated dugsi- mind you I generally did well but it was the environment that I detested. Seeing other students getting beaten would upset me and even though it was in Australia the dugsi teachers back then didn't seem to care that it was a crime. When it happened to me though, that was a different matter. I was 10 and we were doing subcis- I made a mistake (the first one) and the teacher hit me on the thigh with the metal end of a belt. After a few minutes I started to feel some stinging. Without excusing myself I got up to go to the bathroom and then when I saw the blood that was it. All I remember was that I walked over to the teacher (a girl in her mid twenties) and started belting the living daylights out of her. She was on the small side and I was a very tall 10 year old so it was a fair fight. When the other adults saw they dragged me off her and of course I got a good whooping from hooyo- but boy was I chuffed, she never hit me again. Many years later when I was in my late teens she asked for my forgiveness- I forgave her. I see her regularly now and we get along very well.

With incidences like this I'm certain that there are always underlying issues. Apo- you sure do have an obsession with Australia don't you? You should come for a visit.

Alpha Blondy;895007 wrote: IBZ, maybe you should set up a women's get together dinner parties where you can give each other moral support through life's difficult. something similarly to the film ''Waiting to Exhale''. You watched 'waiting to exhale'?

Che -Guevara;895056 wrote: They are almost like miniaturizing a larger problem the nation is facing which is lack of genuine reconciliation and true political settlement. It's creating states that will be dominated by one group with no checks and balances, and that's at odds with every other group. At the core of the Somali problem is the lack of justice, the abuse of power by one group at the expense of the rest, and extreme poverty which makes the government the only source of income. And yet they try to convince us that this is the best solution for Somalia.

Che -Guevara;894855 wrote: It seems we are forming countries within country. We are and anytime concerns are raised about this road we are taking you get hit with accusations of being against Xland. To me this interpretation/implementation of Federalism is nothing more than a rebranding of the clan divisions.

5;894129 wrote: Narniah , I like you sister, but your post is repulsive. It sounds like it was written by a neo-conservative white middle aged man who is trying to get into the pants of Somali women by trashing Somali men. Stop hating on the brothers, sis. Repulsive? Of course it is generalisation but her points are very much close to reality. As for the question of to go ajanabi or not? Whatever floats your boat really, you're the one who has to live with the person.

Working for yourself is hard work, sometimes even unbearable but boy is it better than working for someone else. This is how i feel today, might not feel this way tomorrow though.

Since when did it become acceptable on SOL to mock the religion? Too much of it is happening.

^I've tried a few times to teach myself arabic but they haven't been very successful. Whilst i can read and write, my understanding is not that great and because i don't really have any means of practicing i forget the little understanding i gain after every attempt. I'm certain that my only chance will be to live in an arabic speaking country.

oba hiloowlow;891755 wrote: basically its a duty to support Hamas right? Hamas doesn't have ability to fight israel and yet they are shooting useless rockets into israel with which causes Israel to counterattack. 3 israelis get killed= +100 palestinians. Fatah is the smart group, look at westbank no problem occuring in there. So let me get this straight- in the middle of outright genocide against our MUSLIM brothers and sisters, you want to engage in a debate over which group, Hamas or Fatah should get our support? And even worse still because you disagree with some of Hamas' tactics you would rather support the Zionists? Every time i think that your reason and arguments can't get any lower you somehow manage to prove me wrong. Please don't try to turn this discussion into an analysis of which groups tactics are more effective. It has nothing to do with that and we are all witness to it. You have proven that you have a problem with Somali Muslims showing support for their fellow Muslims and that is the crux of your stance. Alhamdullilah that victory is dependant on Allah alone.

oba hiloowlow;891324 wrote: Im talking about hamas the suicide bombers, they would do everything Israel is doing if they had the ability I'm not going to turn on my Muslim brothers and sisters; and on our holy land simply because i don't agree with suicide bombings. I don't have to agree with every tactic employed by Hamas but as a Muslim i believe it is a duty to support the struggle- and not just because they are Muslim but because they are an oppressed people. Anyway i must say that i am amazed that a Muslim could side against their own oppressed people, and even worse still on the side of a Zionist state which many in in the International community have condemned for the atrocities they commit against the Palestinians.

oba hiloowlow;890625 wrote: War thats because Hamas has the responsibility man, they shoot rockets into israelian territoriums and then hide under civilians. Hamas are like Al shabaab “If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” Malcolm X Sadly you'd think that a MUSLIM would not be so easily brainwashed. FREE GAZA!

Apophis;889688 wrote: And who wants to live in Australia for goodness sake? The Brits who are clogging up our cities- i don't blame them though. We don't have the world's most liveable city for nothing folks.

Welcome back Juxa. Everyone seems to be heading home these days. So many of cousins have gone and my mother and brother are going in two months inshallah. I'm so jealous- next year inshallah. Sabah Al Khair all

Aaliyyah;889643 wrote: Jacphar is it because you think it is permissable to shake hands with niqaabis because they are wearing gloves? I don't think there is authentic hadith allowing that. He was taking the piss out of the situation....or are you taking the piss out of him? Anyhow i suggest that fellow SOLers be very careful about mocking the diin. It is one thing for us to commit the sin of shaking hands with the opposite sex but a completely different ball game to make fun of the religion.

^ Have you ever tried yoga? Real yoga? I have- it won!

NG, Better that than parents who try to be 'friends' with their children. Have you ever seen a somali mother saying OMG to her 16 year old? I have and boy was it undignified. OMG with an accent....i shudder just thinking about it. Stay strong and remain embarrassing- we are behind you.

Xiin, I’m not going to claim any expertise of Somali politics but the very little I do know is that federalism does seems to be the accepted system/framework. My post was just an expression of my objection to it because whilst it can work for some nations (my adopted country for one), there first needs to be a concrete basis of nationhood. The people first need to be dad caafimaad qabo who aren’t suspicious of every motivation being one of qabiil. Take this incident of Kismaayo for example. Let’s just say that the president is wrong (mind you I’m not saying that he is right), why the immediate rush to he must be a clannist? Even you Xiin- it isn’t as if he has a proven track record of being a clannist. Just two months ago everyone was praising him for being a man who has proven his loyalty to his country and people and he makes a mistake and folks jump on the bandwagon to discredit him as a person- not just his policies. Can’t you see the dangers of labelling him in such a way? Could it be external pressures which are demanding that the government object so long as the potential leader is an affiliate of AS? I don’t really follow Somali politics (my introduction to this is from my other half who is from Kismaayo) and frankly I have a problem with an entire process where ministers and leaders are elected based on their clan but I will call it as I see it. It makes no sense to try and reason that because he cannot object to the formation of Jubbaland because of the Kenyan presence (since Ugandans fill the same role in Mogadishu- which Btw is an unfair assessment since Kenya has clearly over stepped their role) he must therefore be a clannist. Anyhow, if there is so much distrust and it seems like nothing can be done to erase it (even the educated and religious seem to be afflicted by it) why bother to form a nation. Haddii saas la isku neceyb yahay then why bother with Somalia? Every clan and its camels shouldn’t bother with any of it- they should pull a SL. Waranle_Warrior;888703 wrote: Somalis are always suspicious that their leaders are clanists and work for their clanish agenda, but this time most Somalis know Hassan Sheikh is clanist and is bidding for the clan agenda. Most? That's a big call.

^ Do they ask you to drop them off a block away from the school? "Old people" shouldn't have friends line sounds like the beginning of the end.

^ Get a gym buddy or a personal trainer. When you know someone is waiting for you, laziness will not be an issue- at least for me anyway. Let me be original and say- SMOKING KILLS. I've done my bit boys, carry on....

Abu-Salman;888567 wrote: There is this BBC horizon clip about very short but very intense bouts of exercise (three times 20 sec of maximal effort; thrice a week), ie 3 min a week, being enough for many; generally, you just have to minimise sitting and every movement counts as exercise (hours of gym is not a must normally, use stairs, walk and help around). I've heard/read this also- the short bouts of intensity that is. Not so sure about the time, 3 min a week? NG, My list of reasons is as follows: 1. Vanity- i have 5 or so kilos to loose to get back to my ideal weight. Running after the little ones has gotten me this far- plateaued. 2. Vanity- ito tone up. 3. Vanity- i want to be able to fit comfortably into my much loved outfits. 4. Health 5. Endorphines and stress release. Good enough?

I do now, but just to let you know that i will be whipping this out when i next need ammunition. Making such an admission can be damaging. For future reference no Halima is over 23 and no Farah is over 28.

^ Age? I was exercising alongside women that looked to be in their 50s- hit the weights JB, effective and not as difficult as cardio i find.