What does Faroole meeting a British Minister got to do with Siilanyo or Xaaji Xunjuf you are living in a different world.

Naxar in the big cities of Somaliland people do not carry big guns or Kalashnikovs and M16, except (Ciidanka Qaranka) Somaliland armed forces. Somalia are you saying Puntland is not a clan state lol

I can't believe after 13 years after the establishment of the Clan enclave in garowe people still freely roam Carrying heavy guns in the big cities and towns ilka jiir is right these people need to be disarmed ASAP.

Ahmed Mohamoud Silyano:The Other Horn of Africa Posted on 18/10/2011 HARGEISA – Drought, famine, refugees, piracy, and the violence and terrorism endemic to the shattered city of Mogadishu, a capital ruined by civil war: these are the images that flash through peoples’ minds nowadays when they think of the Horn of Africa. Such perceptions, however, are not only tragically one-sided; they are short-sighted and dangerous. Behind the stock images of a region trapped in chaos and despair, economies are growing, reform is increasingly embraced, and governance is improving. Moreover, with Yemen’s government imploding across the Red Sea, the Horn of Africa’s strategic significance for maritime oil transport has become a primary global security concern. In short, the Horn of Africa is too important to ignore or to misunderstand. Of course, no one should gainsay the importance of combating famine, piracy, and terrorist groups like the radical and murderous Al-Shabaab. But, at the same time, we have seen my homeland, Somaliland, witness its third consecutive free, fair, and contested presidential election. And Ethiopia has emerged as one of the world’s fastest-growing economies, with GDP up 10.9% year on year in 2010-2011, rivaling China and leading Africa. Indeed, Ethiopia is one of the few countries in the world poised to meet the United Nations’ Millennium Development Goals on time and in full in 2015. In the wider region, too, things are looking up. South Sudan gained its independence this July at the ballot box. And Uganda has discovered large new deposits of oil and gas that will help to lift its economy. All of these changes reflect the fact that the Horn of Africa’s peoples are no longer willing to be passive victims of fate and their harsh physical environment. On the contrary, they are determined to shape their destinies through modernization, investment, and improved governance. After decades of stable enmities, the peoples and nations of the Horn of Africa are learning how to cooperate and align their interests. For example, Somaliland and Ethiopia are collaborating on the construction of a gas-export pipeline from Ethiopia’s ****** region, promising new jobs and income for people in one of the poorest and least developed parts of the world. Although there is much that we can and will do to help ourselves, the Horn of Africa can still benefit from international assistance. But the international community needs to do more than provide food and medicine to victims of famine and drought. Necessary as that is, we need pro-growth investments that will help provide jobs for our peoples and products and resources for the world. That means focusing on promoting market economies and stable government, rather than subsidizing failure and failed states. Unfortunately, at least with respect to Somaliland, this is not the case. For 20 years, ever since we re-established our independence – we had voluntarily joined with Italian Somaliland to form Somalia in 1960 – the international community has closed its eyes to the successful democracy that we have built. Even more perverse, it appears to be demanding that we abandon the peaceful, tolerant society that we have established and submit to the control of whatever government – if there even is one – rules (or misrules) the remainder of Somalia from the rubble of Mogadishu. Our successful democratic experiment is being ignored in part because of a hoary ruling a half-century ago by the Organization of African Unity, the precursor to today’s African Union. Back then, with the recent demise of the colonial empires stoking fears of tribal rivalries and countless civil wars, the OAU ruled that the frontiers drawn up by the imperial powers should be respected in perpetuity. That taboo still claims routine support from many African leaders. And yet Eritrea’s secession from Ethiopia did not lead to other breakaway movements in Africa. Likewise, South Sudan’s peaceful, and internationally supported, separation from Sudan has not led to new calls for Africa’s borders to be redrawn. A 2005 report by Patrick Mazimhaka, a former AU deputy chairman, cast heavy doubt on the application of this rule in Somaliland. As Mazimhaka pointed out, the union in 1960 between Somaliland and Somalia, following the withdrawal of the British and Italian colonial powers, was never formally ratified. But his report has been left in a drawer ever since. So when should a people be able to declare their independence and gain international recognition? The Palestinians’ decision to take their case to the UN has put this issue on the front burner. International law is of no help here; indeed, the World Court has offered only scant guidance. The basic principles that I believe should prevail, and which Somaliland meets, are the following: · Secession should not result from foreign intervention, and the barriers for recognizing secession must be high; · Independence should be recognized only if a clear majority (well over 50%-plus-one of the voters) have freely chosen it, ideally in an unbiased referendum; · All minorities must be guaranteed decent treatment. All three of Somaliland’s parties adamantly support independence, confirmed overwhelmingly by a referendum in 2001. So there is no question of one clan or faction imposing independence on the others. Yet, although Somaliland is deepening its democracy each day, our people are paying a high price because of the lack of international recognition. World Bank and European Union development money, for example, pours into the black hole that is Somalia, simply because it is the recognized government. Somalilanders, who are almost as numerous as the people of Somalia, are short-changed, getting only a fraction of the money invariably wasted by Somalia. Justice demands that this change. The national interest of most of the world’s powers requires a Somaliland willing and able to provide security along its borders and in the seas off our coasts. Our people are willing. But, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, give us the tools, and the international recognition, so that we can finish the job. Ahmed M. Mohamoud Silyano is President of Somaliland. Source:PS

Because Ciidanka qaranka remains even Somaliland political leadership changes we even have a different foreign policy now and days the whole reason why kulmiye was elected was because of the need of change. Leave my Canjeelo alone waryaa

supporting the invasion of your country from a next door neighbor smh

Times change ideologies change people change clothes Change

Well some people believe Kenya is the lesser evil of the two but Foreign intervention will cause only more destruction in already famine hit Somalia and will legitimize the jihad of AS to some extend. And some people think Alshabaab needs to be destroyed by any means necessary how high the cost of innocent lives might be.

No man tell me i haven't hadaan xabad canjeelo cunaya maba eegin wax kale

So che do you support the kenyan invasion or not do you think they are there to help what ever regional state or fictional Government in Somalia.

Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia. The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem. Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum. If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum. Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units. The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism. Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state. Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle. Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line. The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million. Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli. In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan. For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi. We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country. When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin. Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us. Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100. International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either. But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place. If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal. The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful

Abtigis has thrown in the towel and has abandoned Gandi And Ahmed Blackie Abtigis are you supporting Mr Hassan turki and the Jihad against the Kenyan Crusaders?

What evidence do you need their Tanks and troops are rolling inside Somalia as far as ceelwaaq as we speak

Jacfer sorry i don't chew i have clean bright shining white teeth you wanna see a picture of my teeth

Che -Guevara;752252 wrote: ^LoooooooooooL...You are joker. XX...So, let me see your logic, one colonial power transferring territory to another entitles the resulting state to all the lands lost by the first colonizer? Well that's how the Kenyans mind of logic works if the brits did not transfer the territory to Italy they believe they would have kept the territory the same way they have NFD.

xiinfaniin;752243 wrote: ^^ :D Xaaji and the rest of the secessionist crowd could care less about the notion of Somalia's territorial integrity. They will welcome anything that challenges that barrier. But I expect them to be reasonable in what they present as an argument here. I do care about Somalia's territorial integrity i do not want kenyans to take over Somalia heaven forbid

Well on 7 November 1890 Zanzibar became a British protectorate and on 1 july 1895 the sultanate ceded all of its Coastal possessions to British East Africa the Jubbaland territory became part of British East Africa contemporary Kenya Later Trans-Juba Oltre Giuba was given to the Italian Colonial governor Corrado Zoli and that's how it went now the Kenyans want it back.

it depends if she is willing to change i believe in true love

Kenya is reestablishing it's lost territories during the Colonial period British east Africa i don't believe they are after the kidnapped aid workers.

Raile Odinga Oo Sheegay In Dalka Soomaaliya Aanay Ka Jirin Madaxbanaani La Sheegi Karo. Nairobi(Ramaas) Oct. 18 , 2011-Ra'iisal wasaaraha dalka Kenya, Raila Odinga ayaa sheegay markii ugu horreysay in ciidamadooda ay u galeen gudaha Somalia si ay ula dagaalami lahaayeen ururka Al-shabaab oo uu ku sheegay koox Argagaxiso ah. Mr. Odinga waxa uu sheegay in dawladdiisu ay go'aankan qaadatay markii dunidu soo dhaweysay go'aankooda ah in ay ciidamadooda u talaabaan Soomaalia, sidoo kalena ay dalalka gobolku soo dhaweeyeen go'aankan. " Al-shabaab waxay khatar muuqata ku tagay dalalka gobolka iyo dunida oo dhan. Waxay isku dayeen inay soo weeraraan dalkeenna, taasoo walaac weyn nagu dhalisay." ayuu yidhi Raile Odinga Ra'iisal wasaaraha Kenya, waxa uu sheegay in Somalia aanay ka jirin madaxbannaani la sheegi karo maxaa yeelay kama jirto dawlad awood leh oo sugi karta ammaanka guud ee dalka Soomaaliya. Ra'iisal waasaraha Kenya ayaa sheegay in ay ka go'an tahay in ay ka sifeeyaan gobolka Al-shabaab, isaga oo dunida ugu baaqay in ay dalkiisa gacan ku siiyaan sidii ay hawshan ugu guuleysan lahaayeen. Xukuumadda Kenya ayaa hore ugu eedeysay Al-shabaab in ay afduubyo dhawr ah ka geysteen dalkooda, inkastoo afhayeen u hadlay kooxdan uu sheegay in aanay wax lug ah ku lahayn afduubyada ka dhacaya dalka Kenya. Dawladda Soomaaliya ayaan weli si rasmi ah shaaca uga qaadin in ciidamada dalka Kenya ay gudaha u soo galeen dalka Soomaaliya, iyada oo afhayeenka xukuumadda uu sheegay in Kenya, Soomaaliya iyo ETHIOPIA ay ku heshiiyeen sidii ay uga wada-shaqeyn lahaayeen ammaanka dalalkooda.

We all know what drove Cabdulahi yusuf to allow Ethiopian Mercenaries to shell Mogadisho, Ethiopia was driven by their Abyssinian Pride their Soldiers were taking Pictures at the Somalia defense Ministerial office raising their flag. And Cabdiilaahi yusuf was driven By Clan revenge.

Golaha Guurtida Somaliland Oo Dood Ku Qiimeeyay Xaaladda Nabadgelyada October 18th, 2011 Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Fadhigii golaha Guurtida Somaliland ee maanta ayaa Mudaneyaasha aqalkaasi kaga doodeen xaalada nabadgelyada dalka oo ay tallooyin u soo jeediyeen Ha’yadaha amniga. Fadhigaasi oo uu gudoominayay Gudoomiye ku xigeenka labaad ee golahaas Mudane Siciid Jaamac Cali ayaa waxay mudane yaashu kagaga doodeen xeerka nabadgalyada kaas oo ka mid ahaa ajandaha kalfadhiga 45aad oo ay mudane yaashu ku jiraan. Xildhibaan Caydiid Cabdi Maxamed oo ka hadlay aragtidiisa ku wajahan qodobka nabad galyada ee laga doodayay ayaa si gaar ah waxa uu uga hadlay arrinta colaada beelaha wada daga dalka aynu jaarka nahay ee Itoobiya gaar ahaan kililka shanaad isagoo xildhibaanku arrintaa ka hadlaayayna waxa uu yidhi “Arrintaa Kililka shanaad ee Itoobiya laga soo sheegayo oo dad ku dhinteen waxaan soo jeedinayaa in golle ahaan aynu ka qaadano doorka aynu ku leenahay oo aynu ka soo saarno baaq nabadeed oo arrintaa ku wajahan ayaan anigu soo jeedinayaa.” xildhibaan Caydiid waxa kale oo uu ka hadlay arrintii colaadii Kalshaale waxaanu yidhi “Arrinta Kalshaale wali beelihii layskuma keenin waxaad moodaa in ay siyaasadi ku jirto, waxaan raacsanahay in uu gaabis jiro oo loo baahan yahay in inaga iyo xukuumadu aynu dib isugu noqono si loo saxo wixii qaladda ee jira haddii ay xukuumada noqoto iyo haddii ay inaga.” Xildhibaanku waxa kale oo uu ka hadlay arrinta dhalinyarada xaafadaha waxanuu yidhi “Anigu xaafada aan deganahay oo ah Xawaadle iyo Goljano habeen walba isku dhac dhalinyaraa ka dhaca,isku dhacaasna dhalinyaraa wadda oo la saf baa loo dagaalamaa, wax bilays ah oo yimaadaana ma jiraan haddii ay sii socotana dhibaataa ka imanaysa, waxaan soo jeedinayaa in arrintaa bilaysku wax ka qabto.” Xildhibaan Cawil Xuseen Axmed oo isna ka mid ahaa mudaneyaashii ka qayb galay doodan nabad galyada ayaa isna isagoo ka hadlaaya arragtidiisa ku wajahan nabagalyada waxa uu yidhi “Nabad galyada dalku aad bay u wanaagsan tahay, hadana iyadoo wanaagsan in mar walba laga werweraa aad bay u wanaagsan tahay.aniga aragtidaydana waxa inoogu dhib-badan caruurteenii oo habeenkii saf-saf isku laynaaya taas oo nabad galyada wax u dhimaysa.” “Waxaan leeyahay bilaysku way ka shaqeeyaan, laakiin kaligood waxba kama qaban karaan hadaan dadka shacabka ahi la shaqayn oo aan lagu kaalmayn gudashada waajibadkooda qaranee shacbigu ha la shaqeeyo,”ayuu yidhi Md. Cawil. Xildhibaan Cawil waxa uu ka digay halista ay nabadgelyada ku hayaan kooxaha argagixisada waxaanu yidhi “Arrintaasi waxay u baahan tahay siddii aynu awalba dawlada iyo shiciba u wada shaqaynay in aynu uga wadda shaqayno oo uu qofwaliba bilays noqdo oo uu halka uu joogo nabadgalyada ka illaaliyo wixii dhib wadda ee uu arkona la socodsiiyo ciddii ku shaqo leh. Anigu waxaan soo jeedinayaa in Golaha guurtidu kordhiyo wacyi galinta dadwaynaha ee xagga nabadgalyada.” Xildhibaan Ibraahin Ciise Buux oo isna ka hadlay aragtidiisa ku wajahan nabadgalyad gaar ahaan ta wadooyinka waxa uu yidhi “Dhibaatooyinka nabadgalyada wadooyinka ee maalin walba dhaca waxa ka mid in darawalku isagoo gaadhigii wadda ayuu haddana Moobil ku hadlayaa taas waxay keentaa in ay maskaxdiisu baxdo taasina waxay sahli kartaa in uu si fudud shil u galo, annigu waxaan u soo jeedinayaa in marka ay darawaliintu Moobilada ku hadlayaan in wadada dhinac uga baxaan, ciidanka ku shaqada leh nabadgalyada wadooyinka waxaan u soo jeedinayaa in ay wax ka qabtaan arrimahaas.” “Dadkii shisheeyaha ahaa ee dhawaan xukuumadu ku dhawaaqday in dalka ka baxaan waxay culays weyn oo saarnaa ka qaaday xagga nabadgalyada, wadankana culays weyn baa ka fududaaday oo ay wax badan u khafiifisay xukuumaduna way ku mahad santahay waxaana loo baahan yahay in arrintaa la sii adkeeyo oo la socdo dadka xuduudaha dalka soo galaya oo la ogaado cida dalka soo gaysa,” Xildhibaan Farxaan Ciise Ubaxle, oo ka mid ahaa Mudaneyaashii fadhigaasi ka hadlay. Xildhibaanku waxa uu intaasi ku daray “Wadamada aynu jaarka nahay haddii aad tagto illaa Hudheelka aad ku dagayso waa la ogyahay oo waxa la baadhayaa waxa aad u socato iyo halka aad ka timi, waxaana jira fiiseyaal lagu galo wadamadaa inaguna kuwaas uun baynu la mid nahay. Waxaan soo jeedinayaa in go’aankaa la sii xoogeeyo oo aan halkaa lagaga hadhin.” Xildhibaan Maxamuud Xareed Rooble ayaa ku baaqay in la sii xoojiyo Guddiyadii nabadgelyada ee xaafadaha magaalooyinka laga sameeyay. “Waxaan leeyahay waa in la xoojiyaa guddiyada nabadgalyada ee xaafadaha ka jira waxaana loo bahan yahay in loo sameeyo shuruuc arrimahaas wax lagaga qabto madaama oo aynu nahay golleyaashii sharci dajinta,”ayuu yidhi Md. Xareed. Gababgabadii fadhigaasna waxa loo balamay in fadhiyada maalmaha soo socda halkaa laga sii abo qaado dooda xeerka nabad galyada.

Somaliland house of elders call for a cease fire between the clans fighting in the hawd region of Ethiopia.

Interesting the Garowe Clan Administration is trying everything to sabotage the Khaatumo Conference