^^^^^^^^^^^^ Originally posted by Paragon: [QB] ^^Yes. I am one of those who does not share a tribe with them but supports them with hiil iyo hoo. Insha-Allahu in few year's time, markaan dibadda ka laalaanto gogosheyda and head home for good, I shall have the honour to fight beside my Somali brothers of Western Somalia. -- No disrespect, but i don't believe u.....lakiin ninyahow whatever happened to [easier] project of writing to news outlets to bring attention to somalia? Ethiopia is supported by America, this is politics, vote Democrat .....i think the best rought is to bring this conflict to world attention, for the media to focus on this issue like the Dafur conflict. I guess i will never understand why all somalis won't support this struggle, then again the entire muslim world watches the occupation of 3rd holiest place in islam occupied and victimizations of muslims around the world and go about their business. Naxar sxb this time u are not being fair...not only should ONLF continue the fight...they should take it inside ethiopia if their demands are not met and human violations addressed that is way to win the fight....its a must to highlight this conflict as Dafur case as well...... ps: everything is connected sxb....is it a coincidence the year somali government was overthrown....Ethiopia granted Eritrea their independence?....Somalia is strategic this shhh was planned long time ago....

By Juje Looking forward to see what change he could bring. Why? It doesn't change anything.

i appoligize beforehand especially to gabadha.....and because this cat promotes zina i will not post the link....lakiin i thought dis stuff was funny as hell....some of stuff is bad mouthed ciyal suuq...some good advice...all in all just straight up funny. check out: Few days ago i was invited into this African students party so i dressed well...... back to the party ..so that night i was flirting with some chimpanzee looking alike African girls( ) when i saw this Somali beauty queen stepping into the party......... Did u think that cleaning your teeth alone does the job? You have to rub and clean that tongue---this is how you can avoid your breathe from smelling like your ayeeyo's fart. BVLGARI BLACK ,you will be chased by the big headed xalimoz if you use this scent ,believe me she will drop all the suuro suuro '' INCLUDE THE PANTS '' to smell this OH MAMA MIO '' recommended for daytime use '' WORDS TO AVOID :- The list is huge but i will list few ones according to what some girls that i interviewed said 1) '' Nayaa '' somaligirls hates this word they will certainly respond you '' waryaa ma ada i naageystay'' . 2) '' yarta & yareey '' by using this words the girl will feel that you putting her down , its a romance killer don't do that . 3) '' bajaq '' this word is known as dhilo or *** in southern regions of Somalia ( :eek: ) ..in north they will laugh at you and think that you are a clown (( you don't wanna be in this situations )) . 4) '' heedhe '' this word is so gay , don't use it unless you're so feminine and that's a whole different thing . 5) '' wan ka helay ma isku qabana '' idio!t you need to play the game first , and things like this should be'' actionized'' . 6) '' waku arkay wan ku cashaqay '' ma soconeyso upgrade your pickup line bastar!d this lines use to work on my granny not anymore buddy . 7) '' Naaso balaq '' (inalihi wa inalhi rajcoon do ppl say dis type of shhh? ) Nasaheeda ya ku tusay ? don't be a moron, never say that to a girl .

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: "But ethiopia won't allow them to secede, thats political sucide." why do think been telling the ONLF that they could do so. furthermore, how can you ever tell without trying? Your not this naive Naxar. They have tried many diplomatic ways and i believe wrote many letters to world leaders and tried to bring their plight to world attention... the somali region and other regions such as the Oromo, Afar in which Ethiopia (Habashi/Tikery) controls have tried diplomacy and wrote many letters, but that hasn’t worked and thus resulted to violent resistance, but Ethiopia of course won't let go of these lands, it let Eritrea go only after a bitter 40 years of bloody war which resulted in the hundreds of thousands of deaths. Watch this piece: and little historical background: Ethiopia: An African Triumph

^^^I suspose because he believes the sheikh taught to overthrow the royals and establish an islamic government in the place of the monarch? Which would be correct gentlemen, since Islam is against fitnah. What i didn't particularly like was the sheikh's very cozy relationship with the royal family in the kingdom. And Allah knows best.

Sweet....where did u find this Fatah?

Originally posted by -: quote:Originally posted by LayZieGirl: dab, I don't recall qof kale oo assistance karaadisey ethiopia other than odaygii ii inta daba socoto. The reason why most of you don't feel sorry for dadkaan dhimanaya, and you know dadka aan ka hadlaayo is because you have no relation to them. You figure, as long as dhulkeena and dadkeena are peaceful, who gives a sh*t? Hadaa muslimiin iskugu weceysiin, waa inaad danqatiin whenever you read somalida dhimaneyso, regardless of what part of the country oo gubanaaya. Aniga hada waan karkarayaa, but yet those people aren't even related to me or have any relation, but all the name of innocent women and children aa i karkarsiinooyo. Usually, I would disagree with just sweeping generalisations, but unfortunately it is true.Nobody gives a damn about Mogadisho simply cuz they are not from our clan. che i thought u were much smarter then this sxb what's up? u could educate the girl u quoted instead of aggreeing with her emotional conclusions. aan gartoo somalis disagree politically, hardcore supporters on each side wish destruction on the other or even ppl feel more passionate for their own home base garthay taas.....lakiin to say somalis see daad muslim ah oo miskeen civilians ahh in terrible conditions on tv or read it and not care simply because they are not their clan is wrong....if such a person exists then that person does not have any iman.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: ONLF needs to stop alienating its people, "Win their hearts and minds" and ask for a referendum to secede from ethiopia. But ethiopia won't allow them to secede, thats political sucide. I have said it before, Ethiopia the habashi and tikery are small percentage and greatly outnumbered by those whom these minority tribes oppresss such as the Oromo and the somali region. But because these anti-ethiopian groups are disorganized/disfranchized they have been very slow to make a head way against Ethiopian brutality. Its easy for us to critize i know, but one wonders why these groups with common goals just don't work together in liberating their lands from Ethiopian rule? Its compareable to Falistine, and reason for falistine inablitiy to liberate their lands is not necessiarly becuase of Israeli rule, but that Israel is protected by the powers of the west, much like ethiopia is protected in the Horn of Africa.

Originally posted by Haneefah: quote: Originally posted by Khalaf: Nothin is suprising anymore ninyahow...ppl are predictable.... u know whose can show on certain topics. ahh well. Waa kaagan yaree taftafta lehee talaabada dheereynaya, maad nin rag ah iska dhigtid ood la hadashid qofkaad ula jeedo intaad dhagahadalka deysid? Walee meeshani ilma badan wey kharibtay, everything has become clan oriented in their corrupted perceptions, bisinka. [/QB]Walaaleey maxaad personal ugu qaada thay? What I said was general and truth, even a noble struggle such as this is clanized.......it’s the truth.....u right everything is clan oriented that’s why u can write essays on the somaligalbeed struggle (very beauitful btw and i agree wit it).....and not Lascanod, Xamar, or Kismaayo....and vice versa....it doesn’t mean bad nesscarily......but it doesn't mean good neither depending on the way u look at.......but way things are.... Mida kale ma raagnimo laa tuusa hadii gabar lii isku taago....koley waxaan maqli jiri ninka raag ah wa kii gabdha ka xiishoda. Ps: thnks for da concern but it aint that deep sister if one is in the politics section they are bound to catch some flees.....especially if they are from certain sectors.... sometimes u gotta throw xaar at xaar.......unless the xaar comes from a female like the one below u. ...in that case wa li iska daafa.

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: Bahashu dadka lafahay ka gashay ma is tidhi ^^^Nothin is suprising anymore ninyahow...ppl are predictable.... u know whose can show on certain topics. ahh well. In all seriousness, ONLF struggle is the most noble struggle ever of our ppl and may ALlah give them victory. Once again have great trip sxb.

Originally posted by SheekhaJacaylka: And you never seen me having lunch in Jigjiga 2 months ago .... wax walaan. I saw u and i am going to report u, and have u excuted immeditaly. ps: Not to take anything away from the topic, may Allah help our ppl. But i find it sad that when it comes to somali politics each region or ppl have their own hard core defenders that seem pop up when their region is discussed? lol why is that bal? Kismaayo u see certain peeps, SOOL/Sanaag certain folks, ONLF certain folks, ICU certain folks........yaab

Peacenow, there may be characters that as Somalis we should not be proud of, but then all people from all nations have within them negative characteristics. there are no nationalities, i can't think of any nationalities and their women, except maybe the African American women that cause more diib iyo qaaylo, daagal then some somali women. They are the only Muslim women with hijabs, jilbabs in public that beat the hell out of each other....and in public, even in masjids........no other muslims do that...cajiib...yeah there was big fight today that is why i brought this topic back...walalhi these ppl are dumb as hell. respect ur deen if u have symobols of islam on.

^^^LOL man....no worries ur among family and friends ya dig. @ mr and mrs skiper. hahahaha. best wishes bro. sheikh told u....ninyahow shiekh also told me its must to get married at a young age as was custom of the companions ra to avoid haram.....but didn't explain how broke young person can raise a single family........let alone 4 families. dat would be tough to say the least namean. peace.

Originally posted by Caamir: [QB] People with very low self-esteem ask such questions or people who are susceptible to provisional materialism. Or young ppl who only witness the death, destruction, lack of hope, poverty and misfrotune of their ppl and country, they wonder about this ya dig. So why don't u tell us what should make somali's proud? What have they achieved or given the world or even their own? We are proud but don't know why or of what.

yo dat rolls eyes looks really gay!......its just to show my disgust at the idea.........ive seen North and thepoint use rollseyes...marka um in good company. peace!

i heard from some pakistanis that (istagfrullah).....some imams in pakistan molest children even little boys. :rolleyes:

I wish i could understand what the old man is saying. the only thing i understood is "somali baa ahay." :cool: ......and also dat gabay starts with S's....it takes great skill...somalia is called nation of poets....i wish i had that talent.........just looking through youtube i found this gabay by the sister...can't understand everything she saying but it sounds beauitful at same time very sad......deals with struggle in the Ogad.en.....may Allah give them victory inshallah.

^ ..... lakiin sxbow what happened to yo girl back in Kenya? or u still in shukaansi process? .....if what u said in that thread is true then ninyahow forget learning shuksaansi art or other chicks seems like u got a good woman ya dig. @ Yaabka war niyahow don't give away the secrets too many females eyes here....but to keep it real sxbyal every girl is different....like each door there is a unique key to open it namean. wa salaamun.

By NG: If you have another practical way out I would be honoured to hear of it; as long as it is not wishes and dreams. Which, incidentally, even young Khalaf started to exhibit. His ideas of outside trustees is as ludicrous as BiLaaL’s one about supporting the Asmara group because they may (or may not) have a bright future Do you have practical solutions other then critiquing everyone else and telling them they are either dreaming or suicidal? I will like to hear ur thoughts on this adeer! You’re a great critic but are you an equally great problem solver?. Lets here it! My idea is not ludicrous, but a fair solution. I do believe this is what Ethiopia is planning to do, remember they have once before tried to add British Somaliland to be part of their trustship as Eritrea was. I neither believe in Dukes TFG or Bilals Alliance the game is bigger then both if u know what I mean..........nor am I dreamer as I once was in believing an islamic state can rise in this land. The ppl liberate themselves, there is no people and unity fighting for Qaranka somaliyeed as some would falsify.........and even (this is viewing from the lens of the opposition) they were to overrun the Ethiopian backed TFG, then as Che once said: cruel leaders (or stooges) are replaced only to have new leaders turn cruel (or stooge of the great powers of the day). I don’t care who rules! A true government ruling somalia, a unified somalia is unlikely in my view, it would best if a Muslim country and not Ethiopia would take over and rule Somalia, a strong muslim state......why do u think that can’t work? Other then the obvious as Geel alluded too earlier.........the international community needs to pressure Ethiopian withdrawal and a multi national force particular muslim states to take over, why this is not being done should single something to us..... and afterwards help from international community especially the muslim countries......every clan region should be given its own autonomy with a weak central government determined in 09 after the TFG mandate. Again why this is not being done, and Ethiopia alone has been given the green light should tell us something. What exactly i am not quite sure, but just a feeling that powerful ppl would like somalia to remain in choas and a war zone. By Bilal: I think the time is right for such an approach. The miseries of the last seventeen years have brought about a unique opportunity. This opportunity comes in the form of the wide consensus, across all sections of the Somali public, that serious steps need to be taken to stem the evil effects of tribalism. One can safely say that tribalism has become a threat to both our social and national security just as some Western countries view terrorism as a threat to their national security. No shiiiz nit! So the way to slove the problem is with a 1.0 tribal system with the likes of old veterns of qabil politics. Makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by Xoogsade: ^ You shouldn't have missed to attend your role model's welcome party considering how you accentuate your love for the man with "Alxamdulillah" as if I would fail to sense the urgency in your voice bro You may have attended but fear to admitt How sad. As for Reer Cuqdad, tell that to those who kept their heads low and lived in perpetual grief and resentment till the Xabashis landed on our blessed soil only for these cowards to come out and celebrate the massacre of their foes. PS: This is very civil discussion, drop your two cents. ^^^Sxb......I would’ve attended but don’t live in Minnesota...can’t miss school/work namean..... As for xaabshis ive said trillions of times and ill repeat it once more, they Somalis TFG and ICU created the situation and brought the enemy to their lands.....unfortunate the state of our country but our ppl created it. IF u want to know my two cents reread this thread or search the archives, I agree with many of points of both Bilal and NG, and believe the best way to peace is diplmocy, Ethiopian withdrawal and Muslim country take over. Ps: I am a just man and I give my brothers their due haaq, but forgive me brah if I don’t take your xaabshi grievances seriously. Xoogade like the beesha odayaasha in xamar who said Ethiopia can stay but Puntland troops should go, ur real foes maybe?...the same dude when TFG is made of up confederation of clans majority being those from banadir, was complaining and still grieving of those who came from far away lands whom he considers invading his clan capital, which is the capital of the Republic of Somalia.....amazling it is not xaabshi as ofen is sugar coated.........but Puntland clan. Sxb ur are free to ur views, and i honestly don't care, u don't see me or Duke parading ur name around namean. Adeer I don’t know ur talk about foes...but as my hunch tells me if u are talking about ur favoritte ppl the Plers....then I do know Puntlanders they don’t consider ur clan foe or any clan foe.......ppl all somalis are tired of war, want peace and Qaranka somaliyeed restablished, maybe this is wrong course, and according to me it is the wrong course, however that is the intention at least from the viewpoint of the lay ppl.....marka cuuqdaadaan iska saar. Its not healthly....clouds ur judgement Um out sxb. wa salaamun

^^^Didn't go ninyahow.....school/work....but as Libaax informed the gallery the man was welcomed like a rockstar.....and he is doing great alxamdullahi. lol@ Aniga clanish ah iska celi. ninyahow yaa ku waaydiyeey bal? Is this personal? Sxb i don't care what you are no offense. Castro quoted and i replied accordinly. Adeer xoogsade reer cuuqdaad waqtii uuu ma haayo. Alle ha ku caafiyo jalle..... Carry on topic sxbyall, great and civil discussion thus far and lets not ruin it sxb.

Thnks sxb deep!...i waas gonna post dis..but in general section. ....big fan of Def poetry.

Originally posted by Castro: quote:Originally posted by Khalaf: Xiin, thats what i been saying for long time, somalia at least the south should be put under Trustship (somewhat like colonization era), maybe this is what Ethiopia wants to do and she won't be able for obvious reasons.... but a Muslim country should do it or even America/Europe which are more capeable then Ethiopia. Only a TFG supporter would want to put the "south" in trusteeship. You don't really think those savages could govern themselves like Somalilandders and Puntlanders, do you? Hmmm! I am not the best in Somalia's geography, but I do believe Kismaayo, and many other areas are also part of the South. Sad u can't see past your clannish lenses adeer. But carry on,

Xiin, thats what i been saying for long time, somalia at least the south should be put under Trustship (somewhat like colonization era), maybe this is what Ethiopia wants to do and she won't be able for obvious reasons.... but a Muslim country should do it or even America/Europe which are more capeable then Ethiopia. Fataah Bear in mind this war was instigated by the entire international community, namely U.S,Europe and even the U.N who broke their own resolution. Smartest thing you said............that’s why the ICU stubbornness, defiance and open declarance of war, remember the famous within 7 days we will capture Addis......doesn’t make sense to me, does it to you?........we know the United states (and others) is worlds superpower, their overwhelming authority and influential presence in the Horn of Africa, this means they and their intelligent agencies hold sway in the Horn including Ethiopia, Eritrea, and the anarchic Somalia! Only way the ICU policies if we can call it that make sense is they (maybe not all) were part of plan and still are. Ps: Don’t think for one second there will be an islamic state in somalia sxb.....this will come from the east I believe u know what I mean. Those proposals are not to different from the ones that were offered to a certain Sayid Muhamd Abdullah Hassan. i am gonna respect your views sxb, although i see it as an insult to Sayidka....I don’t share them, or consider these cats to be heros far from it....and far from caliber of Sayidka (AUN).....but if you consider their fighting in the battle field the kids that is.....then there are have been likewise “fierce fighters” during somalia’s clan-wars........ And he died in the wilderness; sick, tired and betrayed by his own people. But my friend that is a better to leave this world than a lifetime of servitude to another man. And may Allah give him peace, Sayidka (AUN)! Although I prefer Salahuddin courage with mercy! Sxb, there was a companion ra ( I can’t remember his name), he was about to be executed, but told compile and he would be let go, he refused to forfeit his honor and his principles and choose death! Then he was given choice to free his companions, for his companions for their good he complied! The ego is not a good thing awoowe, one should think about what is good for his people/his country and put their best interests before their own at least that is what leaders do! Ps: I don’t expect anything from somalia and the ppl to be honest, not a true government anyway.....I believe they should be colonized preferable by a Muslim country, and be part of their trustship. Best way to peace.... That is my opinion at this moment and i am sticking to it until more developments become in an ever changing situation!

174 replies on dis whoa! ......I skimmed through it and going off the title....sxb Trevor no woman is smart enough or high enough to get skractch dat mentality jalle......nin walba raagnimodiss wa ku dhaasha ...no university degree can give one this creditional....its in ones blood. i don't know if dis was said.....but my kumo iyo taano......education is important for everyone and obligation for all somalis....an intelligent, self-sufficient, independent career oriented woman that helps herself, her ppl is highly valuable....if u got sisters u know what i am talking about....every man wants the best for the woman of his family....its usually them even with all their talk about standards .....dat make dumb choices! Ka gudab....thats not the issue...the issue and maybe why these sisters u talking about aint maried...is maybe they aint authentic somali women and all caught up by the modern day gimmicks....u know the ones that lost their deen and hertiage or treat dis with no importance, trust aint no body chasing u, maybe to get ummmm but not to marry.......have a BS or masters degree ect,....or be high school drop-out, or even be a geeljirat straight out of Galkaacyo....bottom line its all about the authentic somali lady....gaber asli ah...gabartaas nah wa a dyme.