salaam, Taqwa, Thanks for commenting. Before saying that our urgument is worthless i advice you to take a few minutes to follow up all brother kowneyn's posts you will find out then who is discrediting sheikhs and who is not. salaams

Allahu Akbar. Thanks sister lady rose and also sister kamila for reminding us the death as our prophet saw did when he said '' kathiruu thikra hathima ladat'' do more thinking on the cutter of sweets (worldly life). As noor's death came younger so may ours, let us reflect on and think about it. look she had a plan in mind to get married which she never did. How many plans have we got in mind and how will this be possible when death is possible too. O' Allah save us from the hell fire, surely no one will go to paradise for good deeds he has done without the mercy of allah.

salaam, Following the Holy Book, the kuran and the way of the prophet and his khulaful rashidin will do better than following certain sections. Let us be muslims and let us follow the way of allah and his messenger then we will find succes in this world and hereafter. w/salaam

Its seems to me brother you are sincere person who is looking to do the right thing and not mischief. We understand there pple like you caught up in this fitna Wahhabiya/Salafiya dogma? But actions are judged by intentions and inshallaah Allaah will guide you and all those who are sincere to his correct path. Thanks to Allah , i am happy that i benefited from the sheikh mujadad islaam Mohamed Ibnu Abdulwahab and he is example to us and may allah's mercy be upon him. But before you understand my stand against the Sheikh M. AbdulWahhab an-Najdi (Shaikh an-Najdi) , let me ask you why have you abandoned the ways of your forefathers and those of muslims before the last 100yrs? We were ahl sunna and we shared with other ahl sunna similar system of beliefs including the practice of tasawwuf. To answer you quastion can you tell me what am i different from my forefathers? what kind of actions do i do that i am not suppose to be doing? ).Is it that you also believe your forefathers were practicing shirk and that you are a better muslim today thanks to Shaikh anNajdi, who purified the ummah and saved you from the way of your ignorant predecessors? whatever my forefather did they did simply becouse of lack of understanding their religion not becouse they were mushrikin which i believe they were not and i pray from allah to them and me to forgive our sins. But quastion for you kowneyn do you believe that that we should follow our forefathers even if they were wrong? for example it was a custom for my forefathers to go to the graves of their passed forfather and ask for help and take sand from their grave and use to purify themselves at home. Should i be doing the same kowneyn? as no one had the previlige of helping me and others except Allah subxanah!! besides they were dead they needed help more than them as their Action stoped when they died. It is rewarding to visit muslim graves to reflect on and to ask help allah to them not the vice versa. 2) Why do you think salafis/wahhabis and their likes are at odds with the rest of ummaah ahl sunna and shia alike? Why can't they not find the good-will and the wisdom to find unity with diversity? Why r they so eager to find faults, dissensions and divisions among the ummah? Remember Allaah said to hold on to the rope of Allaah united. Brother first of all it is good to ask who is dividing this Ummah? what are salafis trying to do is to follow the way of the rasullulah saw as the prophet himself said'' Alaikum bisanatii wasunati khulafaul rashidiin, caduu calaihaa bin nawaajid''. what prophet saw asked here is not division , he asked us to be on his way and the way of the khulafaaul rashidin. If some one has a proplem when some people try to do their best to resmeble themselves rassululahi and his companions then you can not call it that they are on the odds from the rset as it is the other side who choose to be different. It is a duty of every muslim to command people the good deeds and prevent bad from the ummah and that includes preventing the Bida,a practiced by the shiates and their likes. If any one be consent people to curse the companion of the prophet, then i dont know the unity you looking for with the diversity bro. If you have any such things in your hearts inshallaah this ayat will remove it? Acuudubillaahi mina shshaydani rajiim 59:10 Wa 'allaziina jaa'u min bacdihim yaquluun rabbnaa iqhfir lanaa wa li 'ikhwaannaa 'allathiina sabaqunaa bi al 'iimaan wa laa tajcal fe qulubnaa qhill(an) li 'allathiina 'aamanu rabbnaa 'innaka ra'uf raxiim ' Subxaanallah how could i be that hypocrite! If you mean following my forfathers blindly just becouse they were muslims before me then bro this verse does not affect me. But i tell you i love rassullah saw and the sahaba ridwaaanulaahi alaihim and all the muslims who took the faith before me and after me. p.s kowneyn i dont khow how many of these munafiqin verses remained for you to use for us as if we are munafiqs.It seems you are in desperate situation to label us with the kufar and munafiqs just becouse we dont think in your way, but inshallah Allah is the judge. w/salaam

Salaam, It is known from our religion that saints exist and as you quoted the ayah there should be iman and taqwa to gain that status. Any one who have these two chracters could be wali on his own benefits and all saints can do for us is to do Dua for us as their prayer is mustajabah. It is important that our great sahabas were all saints, who is more saint than Abubakar(Thaniya Ithneyn), cumar ibnu khatab, Uthman ibnu caffan, Caliyi ibnu abiii talib and all the rest? No one . so we know how they spent their lives standing for this religion however they could until they passed away may Allah's consent be upon them. And any one who follow their way of life will be Wali. it is not for us to say who is saint and who is not. it is ONLY ALLAH who knows what are in the hearts (Iman and taqwa).

salaam, in short No there can not be peace with Israel while they occupay the Land of the muslims. Some of the times it is sad to hear from palestenians personals who view the palestinian appraisal from the nationalistic perspective not from the islamic perspective. I believe until muslims wake up and understand that palestine is for muslims and it is the responsibility of all muslims to stand up for it and wage Jihad as one, there will be no success. May allah return to us the Baitul Aqsa to our hands, Ameen. w/salaam

Well said mujahid there, i couldnt say better. Jeleousy always existed from the day allah created the sons of Adam. Even the prophet's wives felt jeleous some of the times and it is natural for women to suffer such emotional feeling when their husbands marry another wives. But it is important that they dont commit extravagant actions that could lead them the anger of the creatot, allah. It is important to remember allah whenever a woman encounters such things. May allah guide to his guidance. Ameen

Salaamu Alaikum, Jazaakumullahu buubto for your article. It is very enlightening as the brother said and helpful. May allah make us all, those who love for the sake of allah and hate for the sake of allah. Ameen

Salaamu alaikum, Muraad i understand what you are saying but we live hear in the west and we know what does the word moderate muslim mean. It is all the time in the western media and they refer it and give this term to those muslims who are muslims by name but do not practice Islam wholly as it is. Shouldnt muslims be muslims and that is it? Didnt allah said ''wallantardaa cankal yahuudu walnasaaraa xataa tatabica milatahum'' yes. allah told us that they will not be consent with our islam these yahuds and christians until we follow them. Why then should we call ourselves moderated and extremist or fundamentalist. yes fundamentalist onother term given people who take islamic fundementals. w/salaam

Now, if ur fair u would have noted bro yacquob following me around making some comments or the other in nearly all my recent posts and some of my old. You would have also noted I have tried to explain my position sincerely. Perhaps u cant read somali but in my last exchange I gave up explaining and said to him that pple have different level of understanding and wisdom so lets leave it at that. In this post however, he goes one step further and actually makes a judgemental and insulting comment which he is not qualified to make and its to that end I made this factual statement. WHERE DID I INSULTED YOU BRO? I for one do not know where i insulted you, but if i did my apology, neither i intentionally tried nor showed any hate towards you, but to the contrary until this day i am trying to make you understand what i believe you have got wrong which insulting and hating SHEIKH Mohamed abdiwahab which myself i owe him great gratitude and respect for what he has done for muslims. Brother walaahi till this time i do not understand the base of your hate towards the shiekh. whenever i ask why you hate you keep narrating khawaarij hadiths which themselves are more to do what it is in haerts. Brother how did you know that what was in the he heart of the sheikh? Is it not ONLY allah who knows what is hidden in hearts? Besides you defending SHIATES who curse cumar bin khataab , abubakar, uthman bin caffan etc day and night and hate the people you call wahabis just becouse you hate them? I am one of the people who benefited the true teachings ofthe sheikh and we dont follow the shekh intead we follow the true book the kuran and prophet mohamed (saw) and we respect him and other shekhs including Ibnutaymiyah,sheikh abdulqadir jeylani and all others. Brother before you hate look what you hating? as i am one of the people who benefited from teaching and the books of the shiekh i and many sunni muslims believe that '' Tere is no god except the almighty, and mohamed (SAW) is his messenger. i believe all the pillars of islam. i regard all the muslims as brothers and sisters and their pain is my pain, their happiniess is happiness. I respect all the muslims ulamas. i believe that awliya are those people who show iman and taqwa as allah allustrated inthis ayah ''Alaa ina awliyaa alaahey laakhowfun xaleyhim walaahum yaxzanuun. alladiina amanuu wakanuu yataquun''. so brother what is wrong with these. these are the basic teachings of the sheikh? will i be same with shiates who curse the companions of the prophet (saw) in which prophet said '' ASXAABII ASXAABII, LAATAKHIDUUHUM BACDII QARDA MAN ABQADAHUM FABIBUQDII ABQADAHAHUM'' . brother i am doing all these just to tell you that i wasnt just followingu the time but i just couldt resist what you had always to say about the shikh which as i said i owe him gratitude . If after all this you are untouced by what i had to say can you please in the future refrain yourself insultinf shekh as i respect him for what i benefited from his teachings. this is personal request if we failed to agree, we can agree to disagree and at same time have respect for each other. ALLAHUMA ARINA XAQ XAQAH WARSUQNAA TIBAACAH, WAARINA BAADILA BAADILA WARSUQNA IJTINAABAH. SALAAM ALL

salaam, Kowneyn instead of pointing the finger in to your so called wahabis why dont you propose your own defence agianst the author's claim. The author presented beatifully to us that what the shiates say about Mahdi and how that is different from that the sunni muslims. AND didnt shiates existed before the Sheikh mohamed abdiwahab? Is it him who started segragating them from other muslims and how that had been possible while he wasnt even alive? May allah guide u to his guidance, it seems is you who is deseased, bringing up wahabism whenver you are told the truth salaams

Good topic I guess but how will we find the infomration is the cricual point nevertheless keep up the good work

Salaams, hi samira, how are u? here is the verse ''Sura Namli,verse 82'' And when the word is fulfilled agains them (the unjust),We shall produce from earth A Beast to (face) them He will speak to them, For that mankind did not Believe with assurance in our signs'' End. A. yusuf Ali's comments '' The beast will be one of the signs of the last days to come , before the present world passes away and the new world is brought into being''. thanks later salaams

Salaams Out, Peace or war ( if you war , you win £1000000

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JAZAAKALLAHU KHEYRAN UKHTII SAMIRA, THAT WAS ENLIGHTENING. I also know that the signs of the kiyaamma include that a Daaba (an Animal) will speak to the people and tell them they were dishonest to the the verses of allah. this is a verse in the quran and i will come back its translation inshallah.

HEEY MUJAHID ARE IN ANY MEANS KHALID OF LONDON GUILDHALL UNIVERSITY!!!!!!!!!!JUST WONDERING

salaam, xamdiya thanks walaal for your advice, but let me tell you this we are not urguing we are are just trying to clarify things for each other. And urguing for good intention is not prohibited even allah said in a verse which i do not have its pure translation which said ''waajaadilhum bilatii hiya ahsan.....'' so sister it is not prohibited as long as we urgue in good manner . thanks

Kowneyn, So yo know what was in deep down the heart of sheikh mohamed abdiwahaab provided that he lived centuries ago, if his deeds do not convince you who he was??? then you must be playing godly.........subxaanalaah!!!!!!!!!coz only allah knows what is been hidden in hearts O, allah guide us the true path, Amin

Macruuf, you can ask the admin to take this thread back to the jokes side as it did not make me laugh!!!! But i like the part he talked about his sister inlaw. when i was young whenever i asked my father to buy me some thing he always said inshaalah and i thought he meant may be some time in the far future

ooooh taturk??? a man who shamed and shunned islam? he ended the islamic khilah on his hands and instead established and aimed for turkey free from islam. May allah curse him forever for what he done to muslims. Bulo yes ithink the author liked him, coz simply he hates muslims.

bismilah, Rahima thanks for praying me, may allah reward you too for how you you defended the sheihkul islam, mohamed abdiwahab. for kowneyn, walaal bal horta aan kuwada hadalno luqadeena hooyo waxaa laga yaabaa inaa sifiican isku fahanee!!!! walaal horta hadiiska ah dad waxaa soo baxaya quraan akhrinaya cunahana uusan udhaafeyn culamada islaamku iyo muxadithiintuba waxey ku fasireen iney ahaayeen khawaarijta waxaana kamid ah dadka saas ku fasirey IBNU CABAAS(R.A)(nabiga adeerkiis) markii uu khawaarijtu ka go,een muslimiinta oo utagey unasheegey xadiiskan waxa uu kasoo saarey khawaarijta 1000 nin oo muslimiintii kale kusoo darey. Mida kale axaadiithta danbe ee aaad tiri moxamed abidwahaabey kusocdaan xagee ka keentey, yaa wariyey, sanadse ma uheysaa, anigu waligey ma, maqal, maxaasa cadeynaya iney moxamed cabdiwahaab ka hadlayaan. waxaad tiri maxamed cabdiwahaab waxa uu farahiisa ku galey dhiig badan, yuu ka galey? taariikhda sheikha way qorantahey cid uu laayeyna majirin aan kaheyn dagaaladii ingiriiska uu lagaley. walaal waxaan ku dhihi lahaa cadaawada aad sheikha u qabtid iska dhaaf oo waxa borobagaandada cadowga ilaahey ha u adeegin, tan kale ma akhridey buugaagta uu sheekhu qorey uu ugu yaryahey fatxul majiidka ? waxa khalad ahse ma ku aragtey? waa axaadiith nabi iyo quraan soocan, marka ninka saas waxa uga qorey diinta islaamka ma lala cadaw noqon karaa? hadaba sxb hadii inta aan kuu sheegey aadan ku qanacsaneyn aan isdeyno adiguna cadwnimadaad u ahey sheekha aniga iyo inta kalena sheikhu waxa uu noo yahey astaanta tawxiidka,ilaaaheyna danbigiisa ha dhaafo aakhiro iyo tan muslimiinta oo dhan. nabadeey.

Subhaanalaah, kowney you are one misleaded person.....these hadiths you mention are all towards to ''khawaarijs'' who are the people who killed Uthman bin affan and that is all clear between all major scholars of islam and please do not mix your hate to present saudid and the sheikh mohamed abdi wahab , a sincere person who leaded muslims to right path when they needed most, the time when muslims went to the graves and asked help instead of allah almighty. visting graves and praying for them forgiveness is permited and rewarding in islam but going and asking them help!!!no!!!NO!!!complete shirk and we know what allah said about shirk. may allah show you the light and us.

Subhhaanallah, kowney i have never known you spaek like this!!!!!beast Alisomali and kowneyn, brothers you have been mislead, please go and research from MOHAMED ABDIWAHAB. he was good scholar who preached muslims to tawheed, onness of allah and please go and read his books you will see what kind of person was he like instead of following propaganda of the muslim enemies. No doubt the regime of saudi arabia misused their power and avoided to apply the islamic sharia on themselves and this is not a sin shared by sheikh mohamed abdiwahab, truely if he was alive he would have further himself from them, but only allah will punish them for their sins and so as others. O< ALLAH GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT PATH< AMIN

Rap maanshaalah sister!!! May god endow you more knowledge BUT sister your name and sheikhet you present here does not go together!!! why RAPMISTRESS< YOu may want to change it to Islam _mistress after this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JUST A THOUGHT