Seems Puntland elites can’t wait to get rid of Deni as soon as possible.

Maxaa so hex galiyay arimaha Somaliya.

Egal aun was not the kind of leader to sell out the interest, will and aspirations of the people who elected for greed and blind ambitions for power. His history and track record attest to that. Having said that, you might have missed some other part and comments he makes y which is even more relevant today. you might want to listen to the parts in which he warns for Somaliland (government) not to behave in the same ways as the former Somalia did which Somaliland wants to separate from, otherwise it would defeat the purpose. And also the parts in which he states that recognition is not simply given as gift because of good behaviour or because you happen to want it, but it’s based purely on interest. And you might also want do some further homework on Egal’s effort towards end of 90’s to reconcile parties in Somalia and was instrumental in conceiving the Arteh Conference and TNG government, as he understood that civil war in Somalia was not in the interest of Somaliland, whereas some narrow minded folks might belief the contrary, as if Somaliland is an peninsula in a ocean only neighbouring Djibouti but unconnected and unaffected by the perils of Somalia.

Obviously something structural needs to be done to prevent these kind of embarrassing zero sum game.

Xaaji, agree with ur statement recognising the inter-dependency existing between Somali’s. P.s.Don’t agree with ur other comments on -reestablishing neo-colonialism.

Happened couple of times in the US. List of former United States presidents who ran for office - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Also very common in many Parliamentary Constitutional monarchies for the Head of Government to remain MP after their executive term ends as Prime-minister, UK, Belgium come to mind. The Prime Ministers who went back to being backbenchers INEWS.CO.UK David Cameron has announced his resignation as MP for Witney, but other PMs have stuck around as a backbencher, from... In Belgium it’s even quite common to see a former State leaders to become Mayors of their home towns or even members of Parliament or the Senate. And there are some countries where it’s quite usual for the upper house or Senate to be populated by former state leaders, so it’s not that uncommon for a former state leader to have modest political after life as back bencher, however it’s quite rare in Africa, where ‘big’ man state leaders rarely seek a humble political career after their term ends.

Kuwaasna reer Borama ayaa boobay. Waad ka iloowday tolka xisaabta boobka

Despite all that u are saying, Somalia’s Parliament is still more active, forms a counter power to the government, and MPs have actually proper power and bigger weight compared to the Somaliland MPs. And did you forget SL last Parliament that was in office for 16 years (2005-2021), which was a complete farce that never even questioned the government and passed everything without a a debate and received payments through Zaad for every vote, weren’t they also sworn in with a Kitaab. What you say sir?

He started the talks with Sheick Shariif and both will go down in to the history books and will be remembered for that.

Suuqyadii Las Anod arintan sameyn weyn ayee ku yeelatay macaa maceeshadii kor u qaaday. Arintaasi fal foolxun oo inkaar ah ayee eheed. The irony is that Somaliland companies donated a lot of money to the people deported. And exactly 6 months later when the Hargeisa market burned down the biggest donation and support came from Somalia. xaaji xunjufoow, irrelevant of the political directions, xidhiidhka umada Somaliyeed ma kala goyn kartid. Inta ka dhexeysa ayaa ka weyn Intey isku fahansaneyn ama ku kala aragti duwan yihiin. Kala saar Siyasad (politics) iyo xididhiinka walaaltinimada umada (social connection).

Siilanyo removed Oromo’s not Somali’s.

So, inclusivity and making many feel part of the government even those who previously did not feel part or felt they were excluded because of their clan lineage, hence the fierce support and loyalty from many different sections.

Could be true, but this was another time and another leadership. And it doesn’t change the very recent disastrous forced mass deportation of Somali citizens hailing from Southwest pulled from their market stalls and deported from Las Anod and Erigavo. Where were you then?

Could we do a SOL poll here between these two “coalitions”?

Yes, many lessons of what is needed and is missing. But what did he and his government do right? As in achievements that a next government ought to keep and further enhance ?

As Farmaajo and N&N seem on their way out, one wonders what are the positive lessons one could learn from this episode in Government and politics? The negative lessons are quite clear and have been mentioned numerous times, but what are the positive elements in the policies and politics that one should try to keep and save guard, to avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater?

Guddiga FEIT oo amar ka soo saaray dhaarta Xildhibaanadii lagu doortay Ceelwaaq | Allbanaadir.com WWW.ALLBANAADIR.ORG On which side is the FEIT.

Mogadishu clan?

The real issue is that Jubbalands seriously needs to address issues of their legitimacy, as they even can’t hold elections in the second regional city as stipulated in the election rules. Maybe after this polarised elections are finished, would be a good moment to start, and the federal government needs to provide serious support to that process, putting aside their elections disagreement. Who certified these elections? The regional election body, the SEIT?

So elections were able to take place in Garbaharey, despite regional authority opposing to it or voicing that it was not possible to hold elections in Garbarharey?

Aren’t you comparing two different things cases? Who won or didn’t win an election is not for the high court to decide, however the courts can judge on complaints if specific processes can or should be followed, according to the law, or are reasonable or necessitated by specific situation. My understanding is courts can judge processes of elections but not on the outcome of the elections.

Don’t focus to much on personalities and politics of personalities, the issue is that also the regions need some kind of check and balance. The regions are eager to keep a check the same on the federal government, but who is keeping a check on the regional governments?

When it comes to putting candidates forward, I think this should be done by local/regional (read clan) based caucuses, and then you have the actual election which should be done through one man one vote process. My issue is not with the eventual election process of popular votes and campaigning, but who puts candidates forward. Current candidates put themselves forward without any kind of support base and proper consultation process, ideally candidates should come forward from some kind of consultation process, this could be either a clan based or territorial caucus. there needs to be some kind of filtering of egotistical and narcissist figures. Even western democracies are debating how to strengthen their democracies while making the system narcissist proof.

The current system where candidates put themselves forward without a political party base, without a proper consultation process does not work for Somali’, and tends to promote egotistical figures.

Are u saying there are no political talents among those other clans that are not part of the larger dominant sub-clans? Or you haven’t seen any around? the point is that the current system of selection and election does not encourage the right candidates irrelevant of which clan they are, and tends to pave the way for specific type of figures from specific sub-clans only. And you are right in some sense that locking the Presidency or PM post for other clans would not change much, except for make more people feel part of the system and maybe it could lead to more competition and accountability compared with the current duopoly, not saying that this would change everything.