Ciidansuldaan, most of them do not care. THey do not take life and country seriously. Let me confess, I was one of the Hiilqaran activists. The southern members of the party, few paid their dues or took seriously their duties. For many of them it was a political exercise.

maybe I write in a rush, but I mean WE unionists were missing our friends and family for Union Cause that in disappearing in Mogadishu.

Buuraha, be honest, can you tell as how Kulmiye could lose the next election?, is their any threat from the opposition?.

Folks this is serious. If Mogadishu doesn't change, anything can happen. You can;t play with fire for long time eventually it will burn you. It is not only war that divides or changes countries, it is the system not working for the interest of the people or the people giving up on their fellow citizens. You heard last week about Cali daacuun complaining about hopelessness of Mogadishu and the sacrifices people pay to be unionist. YOu do not understand. AS you may have seen in my threads , I try to reach out to my Somalilander friends. Can you imagine having friends, families and old acquaintances in your own city and not being able to have the opportunity to sit relax and enjoy coffee, meals and other friendly gatherings. Because we were working and looking different futures. can you imagine missing the company of your friends, because of a cause that becoming difficult to achieve as time goes. How long one have to be exiled from his own families and friends. The southern man can never understand .

Xaaji, he is correct in terms of belonging. In the civilized world you could never see any one say only the nationality or lineage of his father. If you ask them they will tell you., " I am English and German, or Irish and Dutch and so on. I remember in 2010, I participated some Community gathering where Smatar Lagu waraysanyey. When the issue of tribe and grievances came He emphatically said " I will never never shoot my mother ( abtiyaaladay), from the back, I am both SNM community and Awdal community. Having said that, when you are having private conversation with him he always had certain antipathy of the southern people. " waa dad musuqooduna sareeyo, aqoontooduna liidato". on the other side He he feels relaxed when he is having the "reer woqooyi conversation . I see him is sitting with Gudoomiye Cirro, may be he want to join Wadani. I hope he joins one of the opposition parties. I do not think he will fit with "the old guard( siilaanyo plus qoyska) and outlaws( muuse biixi other(.

Ciidansuldan, we need a new blood. remember change is good always. On my part I will do my best to defeat kulmiye. This wasn't a party that is following it's rules. I agree with you that the number of parties should not be limited. Allow people to organize. Siilaanyo deserved to be president, he achieved that goal. Now it is time to get a new blood. let him retire peacefully.

Dhgaxtuur, Saaxiib maya. Waxaan u jeedaa dawladiibaa ag fadhidee madaxnimo uma baahna. peace, prosperity and open society. That is what I need. Those of us who leave continental north America live in a big continent. We see the world differently. AS I said before sectarian tendencies are suppressed even among the most advanced societies. What would happen if America had the party of the Germans, africans, irish and English. Plural politics is what minimizes the ethnic divide.

Fariid waxaanu yeelayn muxuu nacas ku faanaa. Waxaa la yidhi geedku hadii uu jirid balaadhan lahaan lahaa ama callemo badan lahaan lahaa waa la hadhsan lahaa. If anyone had anything to spare people would have came long time ago. I think the good doctor assumed wrongly that the constant criticism we are throwing against the "Hag" elite in Mogadishu meant the endorsement of Sahal. Absolutely not. If you ask the average Somali where they would like to settle beside their home provinces, definitely they will choose, Beledweyne, Marka and Jawhar, instead of Qardho, gaalkacayo or Dhuusamareeb. Like Doctorkenedy said the symptoms in Mogadishu is anarchy and culture of violence and personal interest. If peace regnes there at once they could be better hosts than your typical Sahal. Putting aside personal wealth, most Sahal members, just like the other communities of the central somalia are people who have little opportunity. Waa meelo laga soo haajiro oo dadku ay meelo kale nolol u doontaan. Waar gaagaabso yaan gaadh laga qabane.

Che, waad salaaman tahay. waasidee meesha waad noo cidlayseene?. I wasn't referring about the leaders and the coloration to reward their communities. I meant that people who are away from centers of power are still loyal regardless of their location. Those who are in the capital region without being the president had all the advantages. The Kacaan built " labada webi iyo Banaadir", not Garbahaarey. Caasimadu in ay deeqdo weeye dadka halkaa degan. Hadii la yidhaahdo madaxnimadana ha loogu daro. The last election every body sais " hala kala doorto reer Muqdisho. it is not fair.

Buuraha waxaan u malaynayaa in uu u safray shirka xisbiga. Saaxiib Golaha dhexe miyaad gashAy?, ma jago suge ayaad tahay?, mise "you have been already appointed somewhere.

Xaaji, yours could be one strong union oo ku yimid rabitaan xor ah iyo karti la isku darsady. Weli ma arkin cid si balaadhan uga hadlaysa. I thing you must write some kind of a paper explaining the complexities and advantages including the road map. Instead of emotions like last time this one could be people sitting and deliberating. THat is how the union of Canada and other modern nations came to fruition.

Dittoore, I will not debate about which tribe built things or the one destroyed. We have seen how Sahal behaves when they get the upper hand. If they had some civilization Somalis would have went to Afmadow and garbaharey and Gaalkacayo. I do not think any one of us can even think of spending one night in those places. maybe Boosaaso could be different. any way " meel ay joogaan oo koob shaaha lagu caanaynayo oo habeen loo hoyan karo ayey dhisan lahaayeen" Anyway, I do not like the issue of my tribe is better than yours part of the conversation. Having said that , you are correct on the issue of the concentration of powers on one place. Forget about the future, how about bringing the members of Parliament a save place where they can deliberate freely. Why not bring them to Garoowe, that is a good start. The case in point is some of them have been murdered by speaking their mind. I did talk one Xildhibaan whose family leaves here. He is from Sahal, and he told me for the next few years, we Sahal will fighting for the premiership job only. When I asked him why not the presidency?, he said " it is impossible under the current situation. The parliament can start working on important legislative issues without the fear of the Mogadishu situation. If these President becomes weak and incompetent we need a free Parliament that can deliberate for his removal. Besides, the amount of security personal that requires to protect 275 members of Parliament is huge. It could be a battalion of army that could fight al-shabaab. They have been crying wolf for a long time. anytime that somebody tries to introduce some changes, they use tribal cards. It started with C/qaasim settling to a Hotel. Bring the Parliament to a save place now.

Xaaji, I never understood these before. Are you saying that The Somali weyn must be bigger than Somalia and Somaliland? I have no problem with that. Djibouti is our land. I agree it must be also brought to the union. So rather than Somaliland separation and reunification after that, how about adding Djibouti to the negotiations right now. maybe propose some kind of federal system starting the sharing of currency with Djibouti and opening trade links.

The issue is we have to think out of the box. Remember the Survival of the people is bigger than the city. Every one said for Somalia to come back Mogadishu must be restored at all cost. It is illogical. If you want to build things you start from a save base. In other twist, both the "D" community and the "H' are culpable of the misery that is engulfing Somalia since 1991. That is why ba shift must come. Xaajigu in loo yimaado ama hawshu soo dhawaato ma rabo. Xaaji, since you care about the Somali people , you must take the initiative of " isku soo ururinta dadka".

Doctorkenedy, if the capital comes to hargeisa , they will think big, also they are generous with the guests. No one is even close to Hargeisa in terms of promotion and Somali poetry. Just look back how the famous northerns made propaganda for the Kacaan.

Please keep posting. Can you imagine A Somali in Buur dhuubo, Ceel afweyn or Buuhoodle, who never had seen the President, the capital , the ministers and all that advantage the national capital have, yet he was a citizen and guardian of the Somali nationalism. No water well was digged for him , no hospital was built for his town, if they are lucky enough to finish high school they used to go all the way to mogadishu. They did compete with those who lives in the capital or lives closely. The Mogadishu man have every thing. The commercial capital , the national capital and all the resources that come with it. There are probably three or four hospital built or rebuilt by the Turks. Despite all these advantages, the Parliament members say the leader must also come from Mogadishu. Modern fragile nations must be held together by common interest. I will suggest Hargeisa, Baraawe and Garoowe.

early this week I did write a thread about the secret agreements between Somalia/somaliland. Almost all of the Somalilander ( at least those who are members of the SOL forum) rejected the idea of peaceful negotiations which could lead to union. The only part they were interested was the referendum , not in 10 years but for five years. Some people thought it was a generous offer. Any way, in order to gage how the other part of the country feels about the future and how far they are willing to sacrifice for national salvation, I would like to ask this question about the Somali capital. Do you support for the relocation of the capital in order to save the nation. I will apreciate if the southern guys answer this question, especially Malister, Cadale, Dalmar, Maadey, Somaliarising, peaceaction and others. Please be yourself and speak your mind. Rhanks.

Well, who ever grows the Khat is the target. It does not matter kikuyu or Suju. The biggest problem is the Somali leadership is weak and can;t do much. Even the Ambassador is part of the problem. he has resided Kenya for eight years or more, he involved a lot of businesses and probably some NGO contracts. He is an insider in the political circles. Also I do not trust the Somali Sijus who are part of the system. They are hopeless, they could be complicit in the invasion of kenya three years ago. Folks I am just waiting few more months until september 2014, which is two years since Qoslaaye became president. If things do not change by that time, we should start campaigning for throwing him out of the office in order to take advantage of the remaining two years.

Well, let us see 3 million kilograms a year. how much is worth every kilogram of mera. if one kilo is mere 100 shilin , thats is 300 million. Britain has banned already the import of mera, and add that to Somali import ban, well that could hurt the Kenyans big time. The truth is you need a different leadership to implement these actions. The Somali President is not ready to wage these or other diplomatic messages. It is too late now. You can't retaliate abruptly, he should have a national strategy to deal with vultures from the neighboring countries before he started flying around. AAn ooyee albaabka ii xidha.

Well I share a destiny with Habraha you talking about . I know you won't be about nation building or anything. your eagerness for conflict will effect me greatly, both in Somaliland and the future cohesiveness of Somalia. You can not promote hatred between khaatumo and Somaliland and talk about Somalia. let the people decide.By the way I will not call you names, I am self assured who does not "booteeya"

The most anti Puntland Khaatumo who joined Somaliland share grazing land with you. their were even skirmishes in Cagaaran district about wells and grazing. They said we have nothing in common with puntland. Among them is Xaabsade. Inside deep of Sool ans Sanaag there are Duriyada clans who inabit. You never did dig a well or hospital or school. People need services that you can't offer. Why not let the people decide their future.

I do not know if there were any negotiations going on in Ethiopia or other places, but the latest news in Khaatumo region of Somaliland is that The International Community ( Britain, United States and Igad), ordered both Somaliland and Puntland that " political and peaceful negotiations are the only way to resolve the dispute in the Khaatumo region. They will not allow any war in these region, period. THat is why Somaliland pulled out. Puntland may talk tough but, no war will take place. THe only war that should happen is the war on Al-shabaab. Ali khaliif thinks these latest actions from the international community is a tacit support for his agenda, but the truth is, this a strategy to keep the status quo.

The humiliation started long time ago. Somali ministers and members of Parliament are checked twice before they land to Nairobi. The plane that leaves Mogadishu stops at Wajeer regional airport before it lands nairobi, where they are checked for second time. After Al-shabaab attacked Villa Somalia a month or so ago, The president of Uganda sent him 400 specially trained soldiers. Here you have the Somali president that can't find few hundred Somalis soldiers to guard him. Caasimadan noqotay madax furashada Soomaalida hadaan laga wadin Muqdisho, oon meel kalec la gayn, walee Soomaali meel tan ka sii daran ayaa laga don dooni.

Momunculs, saaxiib waxa jira anigaa kuu sheegaya, ha dhegaysan Ditoorka bootaynaya. hadda ka hor dittorka iyo asxaabtiisu waxay dhaheen waar soomaaliland hala iska daayo. Reer Pumtlaanka qeyb baa jirta immaanshaha soomaaliland " is some kind of threat". Any way I will tell you what is going on,,,,,, . Sorry I hAve A duty call, so I will come back.

Somalilanders in general are not hypocrites. either they love you like they loved the Somaliweyn of 1960, or they have reasons to reject it.