This is turning out more fun than I expected.

Oh 16 out of 16 districts and mayor of Mogadishu all adhere to one clan and you pretend a clan state doesn't already exist? LOL

Some people will argue Che and Maaddeey are human beings such ourselves, they may just be right, and therefore we should allow them to express their views.

Because the girl is you right, mashallah, Khaatumo here I come. :cool:

Apophis;888072 wrote: How is this different to what happened in Kismayo?; The president of the republic needs to stop throwing fits like a school girl. He has no mandate to build any regional state; that right lies entirely with the locals. All he can do is oversee the process. This guy posted it in a "hah, we got you back!" mode.

Wha wha, I am asking legitimate questions. :eek:

No, I am talking about Abwaan's kind, what are they still doing there, Unuka must do what is right and put cadcad's back in their rightful place. :cool: Oba, why do you think outcasts can't form their own regional government and try and undermine Unuka's peace loving traditions?

I thought they were being kicked back to Wisil, so you saying these outcasts still roam the pearl of the Indian Ocean?

Who are the Arabs?

This thread has no simile to the current situation, maybe your fishing for something, sorry, shooting is more in your nature, maybe you are shooting after something else? ___________________________________ Unlike this past situation, the current administration is against the establishment of a regional government by the indigenous people while these militias were from areas such as central Somalia, who came to Kismayo and disrupted the peace which led to what? Al-Shabaab. I know which kind of threads you should fish, sorry shoot for, but I ain't gonna tell you.

To Abwaan of the Galguduud/Mudug Sheikh Shariif was a ICU/Al-Shabaab and he became TFG president, yet you dare to speak about Ahmed Madoobe. But hey, you are the person who says Ethiopians in Galguduud/Hiiraan/Bay/Bakool and Gedo differ from the Ugandan/Burundi and others who protect Xasan Sheikh Maxamuud in Mogadishu. Who can take the likes of you serious with that kind of hypocrisy...

The article was spot on! Of all the AMISOM and other forces in Somalia, the President is sleepless about Kenyans. Not about Ugandans. Not about Burundians. Not about Djiboutians. Not about even Ethiopians. There is only one regional military that is capable of violating Somalia’s sovereignty – Kenya. It is a bit like playing Shakespeare’s Caliban: give us Ugandans, they kill us better, shoot civilians in Bakara market. Give us Ethiopians, they conquer and rule our borders without asking for permission. But no! no! no Kenya. Justice and perfection are a must in Kismaayo; Mogadishu can wait with its 16 district administrators, all from one-clan. It is a new enigmatic phenomenon, one which encapsulates a new underlying sense of naturalizing and forgiving the excesses of clan cleansing and marginalization of minorities in Mogadishu because a new “outrage” may be happening in Kismaayo. It is the tip of a new “nationalist” morality, of a new Mogadishu self-righteousness, unrestrained by its awesome paradoxes and inherent contradictions, and therefore so dangerously retrogressive. Is it the advent of “a great, confused nationalism” to take after Indian democracy, which they call “the great, confused democracy?” Only in Somalia does a sinner at home go on a pilgrim to correct sins in other lands. The irony is befuddling , matched only by the story of a bankrupt United States telling China how to run a successful economy, so that it can borrow more money from the latter. America is the only debtor that tells lenders how to run their business! Whatever his intentions, no matter how noble his designs for Kismaayo might be, there can be little argument that President Hassan’s handling of the Kismayo issue has been amateurish and suicidal. In the eyes of many, he is now seen as a clannish clown masquerading as a national leader. He is seen as a man working to a terms of reference drafted by radical clan action groups. It is a pity, because such a perception – whether true or unfounded – will encumber national reconciliation. And that perception gains currency when patterns emerge. President Hassan is excessively conciliatory to Somaliland, cold to Puntland, dismissive of Khaatumo and antagonistic towards Jubbaland. Add the invective anecdotes that allege President Hassan is beholden to the dictates of staunchly anti-***** advisors, and it is not hard to imagine where this obsession with Kismaayo can take the President and the country. Need we go back to 1990s? No, please. *DING DING DING* we have a winner.

:D I can't hate on Unuka for some reason.

oba hiloowlow;887913 wrote: Change the bloody capital, you basically want to share whats mine and wont let me share yours. i got 2 two proposals for you either we gonna share the whole country or Somalia has to change its capital. AS if you build the capital, all Somalis poured their money into it, it was build by colonialists then the Somali government. The only thing you've shown capable of doing is destroying what is supposedly yours.

oba hiloowlow;887989 wrote: they all look awful!! To be fair, Sanaag, Shabeelada Hoose, Gedo and Nugaal are not bad!

Macallinka;887628 wrote: The possibilities for the NFD (backed by Kenya) and Faroool’s folks who are masquerading behind the big Kab iyo Lax umbrella to sideline Gedo folks are there . :confused:

Wait wait, did you just utter the words facts? WTF. I just asked you, are the districts and mayoral post of Mogadishu under control of people from the same denomination? YES or NO. As for your question, actions speak louder than words. His first steps in office were taken to undermine the progress in Jubboyinka, and you dare utter the words facts? Why not start with Mogadishu?

Miskiinki Maariyo is back. 16 districts of Mogadishu and the mayor... are they of same denomination or not? I mean this is the supposed capital right? If the president cares for unity, he should start with the capital, then he will have the ears of the masses, until then he can go shove it.

Rahima;887879 wrote: This is why a greater Somalia will never work so long as we have federalism built on clan (as interpreted by Somalis) politics. Federalism is optional, if you don't want it, don't take it. Article 49 (6) Based on a voluntary decision, two or more regions may merge to form a Federal Member State.

A very powerful speech by an Jubbaland supporter. He pressed good points, I am afraid this administration has put itself in a bit of a pickle. Xaaji, why are people occupied and hell bent on stopping Jubbaland State of Somalia?

Bluelicious;887745 wrote: Informative and nice to see the diversity of the Somali beauty. So which of these gobol ladies won? According to my sources, Bay and Bakool.

Wax aad ku sheekeysid miyaa jirta? Good luck in this new Somalia.

Abwaan, your kind lived the xaaraan quality life, prayed in stolen homes for 21 years, but when a government was born, the host kicked you to the curb and back to Wisil, so what makes you think people will not get their properties back in Kismayo, and when they do, how do you know who the host is and who isn't? Unlike you, some actually OWNED properties.

Haatu;887789 wrote: He certainly does. Indeed.

Sorry man, I just had to call out your bull.