the question is, after Somaliland buys these helicopter/aircrafts, who is this Qowdhan pilot that is going fly the bloody thing?

Xaaji Xunjuf;987355 wrote: Burahadheer when the USC militia were closing into Mogadishu Barre called his trusted families and said where are the Generals the one i send to Siberia where are the Soviet trained Generals and Colonels , where are the baddest boys of my Tribe . And he was informed that they were evacuating the woman and the children from Mogadishu and that he is alone in villa Somalia with a small unit of red berets. :D

galbeedi;987187 wrote: First the Darwiish Sayid was born in Buuhoodle Togdheer few miles from Buroa city , so he is a Somalilander by today's standard, . Galbeedi, you're right Mohamed Abdille Hassan was born on the outskirts of Buuhoodle, but by "today's standard" the sayid would be classified as an "Illegal Alien", becuase according to the"constitution" of the tinpot Republic, citizenry is determined by paternal lineage. Ironically enough the Sayid would be a foreign but the folks of Gashaamo and Xarshin would natural citizens. Coming back to statue, this is nothing more than a gimmick that denigrates the memory of the Sayid and heroic struggle for freedom against the chains of Colonial rule. I can imagine anything more vile and cowardly then to deprecate on a man's values and principles by honouring him in the name of that which he fought against. The reason why Ina Iley erected this statue is to bolster his on standing with the clan by positioning himself the gatekeeper and protector of the clans honour and history, whilst, undermining the appeal of the ONLF at the same time. This further trivialise the standing of a national icon. This is probably why the Ethiopians allowed this statue because it devalues the Somali struggle for independence, whilst bolstering the image their servant. in all, this is a crude propaganda stun and a clan relations pr that blacken the name of Somali hero.

Making derogatory and disparaging remarks about Somalia in a futile attempt to divide the Somali the people, whilst advocating for the historical connections and brotherly relations with a foriegn and distant country will not advance your insanitary policy.

The article clearly states the Neil Wigen is the Ambassador for Somalia and "Somaliland", which is to put it plainly a fragrant barefaced lie. But that claim is not as absurd as your believe in the non existent relationship between your tinpot tribal Republic and the U.K

[quote= Ambassador Neil Wigen to Somaliland and Somalia welcomed Lol

Che -Guevara;986237 wrote: Not available in my country Watched it here http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACBT0fOIFvk

Che -Guevara;986237 wrote: Not available in my country Watched it here http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACBT0fOIFvk

malistar2012;986720 wrote: To bad your Foks couldn't produce such Leaders :confused: These where the leaders that guarded Somali nation dignity and respect , Made Somalia the lions of Africa at same time the pearl of Indian ocean . SNM /USC/SDF / Siad barre rip regime are all collectively responsible for the sad stage we are in ............:mad: Brother, comments like that detract from your beautiful and praise worthy message. Rise above it.

malistar2012;986720 wrote: To bad your Foks couldn't produce such Leaders :confused:: Brother, comments like that detract from your beautiful and praise worthy message. Raise above it.

Every society produce the leadership it deserves. Somalia's current political class are all alike: myopic, corrupt and petty. No matter who replaces Saacid the situation will remain just as depressing in the foreseeable future. I pray for a better generation.

The reason why Kenya wants to increase its troops in somalia has never to do it with al shaabab. Kenya is In somalia for the some reason as all the other African countries In somalia: For MONEY, pure and simple. Somalia is a nice little earner for the mercenaries especially poor Africans. The average kenya infantry soldier in Kenya earns about 200 dollars a month. However, an AMISON soldiers are paid 1028 dollars a month. Kenya has 4660 soldiers in somalia, that earns Kenya 57,485, 760 million dollars a year. Hefty medical insurances and pensions for its soldiers. Plus especialized equipments like armoured cars, tanks and helicopter. Kenya even tried to gets its navy on AMISON's pay rolll and it went as far claiming reimbursement for damages to its navy hardware during its Initial invasion of somalia. Not being one to miss out on a pay day Ethiopia is in process of adding its force on the payroll. Jabuuti is already enjoying its share of the cake and pretty soon the entire East African forces will in somalia whilst the myopic somalis indulge in their petty politics. Just imagine if somali soldiers were being paid 1028 dollar a month, somalia would be pacified in a month.

Hawdian;982290 wrote: A famous saying from Sayed Barre goes like this When I came to Xamar the city had only one asphalt Road when I leave I will only leave this one road This man was a disaster on every level. I though he said "Let them eat cake"

YoniZ;982310 wrote: In short, Siyad inherited functioning African state with impressive international deplomatic ties dealing with both sides of the cold war blocs. He turned it to *** licker for one bloc and after few years inguinuanly turned against his only left allies.... The rest as they say is history. . what a load of tripe!. Siyad Barre inherited a dysfunctional state that was ravaged by inter-clan rivalry and rampant corruption. Somalia was all but a failed state before Siyad Barre came on the scene.

Classified;982261 wrote: Should it be a National holiday in the new Federal Republic of Somalia ? As we all know, the last Somali government that had controlled every bit of square mile from the Djibouti border to the Kenyan border and along side the Ethiopian border was Mohamed Siad Barre's government of 21 years. Ever since that government collapsed, there was and there is no central/federal government that controls the entire country, from the Djibouti border to the Kenyan border. Should the Kacaan be recognized as symbol of pride or should it be rejected like Nazism post-world war 2? If 21 October becomes a National holiday, what about the Rebel movements? Would they too be given national platform to recognize them as saviors or will they be rejected like Nazism as well? What happened on the 21st of october 1969 was never a revolution. It was a text book coup d'etat and like all coup d'etats it quickly degenerated into a bloody and savage oppression. Calling the coup d'etat of october 1969 a revolution is almost as comical as calling Barre's petty dictatorial regime, scietific socialism. There was nothing to share apart from abject poverty, hungary, ignorance and fear.

Puntland's constitution 3. The Puntland territory comprises: the airspace; the soil and the subsoil; the territorial waters, its contiguous zone and the Exclusive Economic Zone at sea up to a distance of 200 nautical miles from the mean low water mark, and with the Continental Shelf. 4. The territorial sovereignty of Puntland is supreme and cannot be ceded or violated. All persons holding Puntland nationality constitute the people of Puntland. 2. Every person born in the territory of Puntland or whose parents or one of them were born in the territory of Puntland shall be deemed as a national of the Puntland State. 3. The nationality acquired in accordance with this article shall be protected by the Law. 4. The Law will define the procedures for acquiring and losing nationality. It is not possible to have this type of a state (Puntland) and a national viable state (somalia). It is just not possible, it is one or the other.

Constitution or constitution federalism will never work in Somalia. A viable Somali state and these tribal fieldoms cannot co-exist. Sooner or later Somalis will have to go back to the drawnboard and start all over again.

Reflecting on Professor Ahmed I Samatar’s Trip to “Somaliland” August 9, 2013 Mohamed F Yabarag After nearly four decades, Professor Ahmed I Samatar, the former dean of the Institute for Global Citizenship at Macalester College in Minneapolis and former presidential hopeful in Somalia proper had finally decided to pay his long-awaited visit to his homeland at the connivance of the renegade secessionist enclave of “Somaliland”, who were for the past few years desperately looking for big names to bolster their flagging secessionist dream for statehood. Contrary to what the big wigs in Hargeisa wanted us to believe, professor Samatar was not freely roaming in “Somaliland” as everyone who saw his video clips can testify. In fact, his every move and words were closely monitored by the former Minister of ports, Abdillahi Geeljire and his cohorts who followed him everywhere. Following his high profile visit to Hargeisa, Borama and elsewhere in the self-declared enclave, professor Samatar is now believed to be spearheading the campaign for “Somaliland” recognition and will soon be appointed as the lead man for this elusive endeavor. However, the question on everyone’s lips is this: will professor Samatar’s arrival in Hargeisa bring much needed diplomatic recognition for separatists? Well, the answer is big NO for two reasons. The first one being that the International Community has reiterated an umpteenth times that the Somali unity is unbreakable and will not succumb to separatists’ persistent demands at time a marked improvement is being felt in the Somali capital and its immediate environs. Secondly, no individual regardless of his/her political stature and influence can bring about recognition for “Somaliland” as the issue of separation can only be decided by all Somalis. All the talk that “Somaliland” was once an independent country recognized by dozens of countries is merely for domestic consumption and a cynical distortion of the real facts surrounding the issue. The French-speaking and culturally distinct province of Québec has failed to break away from the rest of Canada, let alone “Somaliland” who shares literally everything with their brethren in the rest of Somalia. The globetrotting professor, who visited more than 59 countries (his accounts) across the four corners of the world during the four decades he was away from home (Somalia), had many opportunities to pay visit to his homeland in the past, but could not stomach the prospect of shaking hands with secessionist politicians hell bent to destroy the very Somali unity the smooth-talking professor cherished for decades – until now that is. Following his failure to lead his country into the pastures land in the last corrupted presidential election that brought the current president of Somalia, Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud, into Villa Somalia professor Samatar was increasingly becoming paranoid about Somalia. He is an angry man. Despite his extensive writing on Somalia, Professor Samatar seems to have totally underestimated the level of corruption in Mogadishu and how presidents come to power. It is nothing to do with clan allegiance, contrary to professor Samatar’s assertions that the presidency is reserved for two clans. The fact that presidents always come from either ****** or ****** is a mere coincidence. In this latest contest for Villa Somalia, it was purely about who can outspend the other and bribe his way to the highest office. Had it not the Qatari money, Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud would have gone back to his NGO business. Even the going rate for becoming an MP was believed to be around tens of thousands of dollars. Professor Ahmed was privy to this unfortunate situation. By turning his back on what he stood for decades and embracing separatist ideology, professor Samatar appears to have denounced his long-held views on Somali unity and caved in to the demands and advances of his maternal uncles, and consequently threw himself headlong into political obscurity. No constituency other than the secessionists in Hargeisa will now pay attention to professor Samatar. Even their supports cannot be taken for granted. According to friends close to the professor, the unrecognized fake so-called “Somaliland envoy” in Washington together with some pro-secessionist members of Awdal Diaspora in the US is believed to be behind the idea of bringing the Fulbright Fellow into the secessionists’ den. Only time will tell if his hard-earned reputation as a champion for Somali unity and advocate for justice is severely tarnished following his ill-advised and much publicized visit to Hargeisa where he painted a rosy picture about separatists who were and still are hell bent to destroy the very foundations of the Somali nation for their own selfish interest. I was amazed when he bowed and kissed the ground upon his arrival at Hargeisa airport. If this was not a charade and PR exercise intended for his hosts, why not done it at Berbera airport, his first entry point? Or why not reserve that big kiss for his birthplace, Gabiley? At least that would have made a perfect sense. The whole thing was farcically choreographed by Hargeisa elite to make it look like a great homecoming for professor Samatar, and of course to show other Somalis, including unionist clans that Hargeisa is, after all, more inclusive and accommodating than many skeptics can imagine. The reality on the ground is far from this hollow show. Despite the few token men and women handpicked from the so-called peripheral clans, the fact always remains that the secessionist enclave of “Somaliland” belongs to one clan – the SNM clan. While professor Samatar was touring the secessionist enclave and lecturing about justice, good governance, fair power-sharing and a whole host of issues among “Somaliland” clans, Ahmed Silanyo has made a sham reshuffle in his already corruption-stricken and lopsided clannish quasi-administration and handed over all the most significant portfolios to his own clansmen, even promoting his loyal cousin and spokesperson, Cukuse, to a minister the same way he promoted Hersi, his other cousin and former Dahabshil cashier and one-time bakery worker in Burao from a mere chief of staff to the most powerful minister in the whole government. Well, that is “Somaliland” justice and fair power sharing for you professor Samatar. Even the role of the elected vice president was usurped by Hersi. If what professor saw in Mogadishu was really bad, and yes things were pretty bad in there, well his beloved new “Somaliland” will put that to the shame. It is a place where power is supposedly shared on equitable clan basis despite the absence of statistical and empirical evidence. And yet all the most important posts, from a mere secretary to a minister, always go to one clan. Despite being peaceful for the best part of the past two decades, “Somaliland” is a place where corruption, bad governance, nepotism, injustice, clan-ism and all the negative pronouns one can think of is the norm rather than exception. Professor Samatar should only look at the latest permanent secretaries to understand how things are really ugly in this tribal enclave. People who never saw a public office in their entire career, and whose educational level is limited to a junior school, were appointed as permanent secretaries for a very important public institutions. That is “Somaliland’s” good governance for you professor Samatar. To conclude this piece, the fast-talking and much admired professor has unfortunately jumped ship at a very, very wrong time. The secessionist enclave is deteriorating at every level possible while Somalia proper, despite its obvious shortcomings, is on the mend. Many people who passionately believed in “Somaliland’ are now beginning to question the wisdom of secession. Many politicians are believed to be contemplating joining Mogadishu administration following the International Community’s reaffirmation and support for Somali unity. A man of a large following in the Somali peninsula, and whose ideals and vision for Somalia were taken into heart and admired by almost all Somalis regardless of their political and tribal persuasions, has now reduced himself to a mere and irrelevant secessionist. He should have noted the trend. A simpl observation professor Samatar would have made is the conspicuous absence of “Somaliland” flag among the thousands upon thousands of people who passionately welcomed him in his ancestral city, Borama. None was carrying the secessionists’ tri-colored flag. If free and fair referendum is conducted in the secessionist enclave today, the overwhelming majority of unionist communities will say nay to secession despite their misgiving of the Mogadishu administration. Politicians are known to change their positions on a frequent basis. Professors don’t. Professor Samatar should look back his trip in Somaliland, examine the facts on the ground and reconsider his views on “Somaliland” Vis-a Vis Somalia to salvage what is left from his distinguished reputation. Mohamed F Yabarag Wardheernews Contributor Email:Myabarag@gmail.com

GAROODI;973075 wrote: Walahi I feel so sorry for your people they have been so mind f?cked its sad Walahi. Waxanu nahay dervish bulls(it which has been proven to be wrong Lakin still you go around spewing the same garbage. As for Somalilands dissolving the union with Somalia your chief Garad is a signatory to that legal document as seen below: Below is the written agreement: terms agreed upon and signatories: 1. In Woqooyi gaar isu taago oo aan la raacin Koonfur 2. In lagu dhaqmo shareecada Islaamka 3. In la sugo nabadgelyada Woqooyi 4. In si dhakhso ah loo dhiso dawlad Woqooyi 5. In golayaasha ururka iyo dawladda si caddaalad ah loogu qaybiyo Beelaha Woqooyi 6. Arrinta nabadgelyada Sanaag in si gaar ah wax looga qabto, loona saaro guddi gaar ah. Magacyadii Guurtida saxeexday gooni-isu-taagga Somaliland ee ku qornayd warqaddii xambaarsanayd go’aanka la soo noqoshada madax-bannaanida waddanku waxay kala ahaayeen toddoba iyo toban qof oo uu weheliyo Xoghayihii Shirku, kuwaas oo kala ahaa Sheekh Ibraahin Sheekh Yuusuf Sheekh Madar, Guddoomiye Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan Faarax Suldaan Cabdi Sheekh Maxamed Suldaan Maxamed Suldaan C/Qaadir Suldaan Yuusuf Suldaan Xirsi Suldaan Saxardiid Suldaan Diiriye Suldaan Ismaaciil Muuse Suldaan Rashiid Suldaan Cali Suldaan Ismaaciil Suldaan Maxamuud Axmed Sheekh Saalax Sheekh Daahir Xaaji Xasan Axmed Xirsi Cawl Suldaan Maxamed Jaamac Xasan Cumar Samatar Maxamed Warsame Shiil Garaad C/Qani Garaad Jaamac iyo Suldaan Cali Muuse iyo Xaaji Aadan Axmed Diiriye (Baradho) oo ahaa Xoghayaha Shirkaasi This is the written agreement kulahaa. Bal waxaa caqligiisa eeg!

GAROODI;973068 wrote: We are all signatories to SOMALILAND and swore before God therefore we all have to meet our obligations. Stop lieing about history and get out of your self created bubble so we can develop Sool together The mendacity of these people is truely boundless. they are so brazen with their lies that it is straight out of the “big lie” tactic of Joseph Goebbel's. A tactic in which a lie, no matter how outrageous, is repeated often enough that it will eventually be accepted as truth. This kid wants to convince us about the existence of Document(s) declaring somaliland's independence, in which people were signatories to. This is what happens when children are subjected and indoctrinated with tribal propaganda. This is a form of child abuse that these people should be emancipated from it. Allow me to in form you and to liberate you mind, my dear brother GAROODI. There is no DOCUMENT on PAPER, on VISUAL or AUDIO format, which somaliland's "declaration of independence" is signed by anyone from SSC or in part of Northen Somalia for that matter. That document does not exist, has never existed and will never exist. i challenge any here or any where else for that matter to produce that document. There is better chance of a Morman producing joseph smith's golden tablets than a lander producing that document.

Alpha Blondy;973064 wrote: you use terms like 'SNM tribe' and have the nerve to talk about moderation. Sxb, I am not offend by any of the obnoxious and unfouded lies peddle by men with reasoning capacity of juvenile delinquents. I am more concerned by the fact that you people are subtracting from the common knowledge each time one of you speaks.

GAROODI, listen buddy, you are either a child, insane or just plainly simple. whatever, the case i have no time for imbecility nor do i want hear an iteration of your tribe's historical concoctions and manuel self stimulations.

who moderates this site?

Four pages of utter garbage. Lets seperate the truth from the rubbish with facts. Northen somalia consists of 19 districts. in 10 of those districts, the overwhelming majority of the population is non SNM tribes, two of the districts are shared and 7 are majority SNM. the share of the districts is as follows, KHAATUMO Laascaanood District Taleex District Xudun District Buuhoodle District AWDAL Baki District Borama District Lughaya District Saylac District MAKHIR Dhahar District Laasqoray District SHARED DISTRICTS Ceerigaabo District Gabiley District SOMALILAND Ceel-Afweyn District Caynaba District Burao District Oodwayne District Sheikh District Hargeisa District Berbera District

The information also highlights that the Petrosoma just like the East African Resources Group is the broker SL-6, SL-7 and SL-10A blocks on the Oodweyne sprawls. In this deals the interest have been shared as follows, Petrosoma takes 20% after Genel took 50% and Jacka Resources of Australia taking 30% , According to the reliable sources the owner of Petrosoma is solely responsible for the Oodweyne block and is totally free from any government directives and oversights. That is a shocking deal, it is not even a deal it is a broad day light robbery.