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  1. N.O.R.F

    Overrated

    In the final of Euro 2000 we watched it in central London on a big screen, u can imagine, one side full of africans/french fans and the Italian stalians with their oily hair and forza italia chants on the other, with the english quietly observing. The Italians were chanting since the 1st goal, but as soon as Wiltord scored, boy was that a site to be seen, WOW, the place erupted, then when David-bueatiful volley-Trez scored, WOW, histyria, a huge fight erupted between the nigerians and italians. One italian guy called Trezequete a 'negro' the nigeries were not having it,,,,,,loooool, fond memories indeed. just thought i wud share
  2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3440611.stm Warlords as MPs? :rolleyes:
  3. N.O.R.F

    Overrated

    Totti is the most overated player in the world, not even Roberto Baggio got this much hype and we all know he was miles better than To-tit. Watching the PL, Seria A and La Liga and i deff feel that this guy is so overated. I mean what does he do, a few good passes a few good goals in unimportant games and hey hes the Azzuri saviour,,,,,, Let me repeat that again TOTTI IS CR*P,,,,,,,,,, , i will be proved right in the summer,,,,,,,,
  4. Email forward,,,,,,,, Ibrahim Khalil islamonline.net Disclaimer: Certain details of the following article have been omitted and/or changed in order to protect the author's privacy. I was born in an Arab city on the 13th of January 1919 and was sent to American Mission schools until I got my secondary education certificate there. In 1942 I got my diploma from an Arab university and then I specialized in religious studies as a prelude to join the Faculty of Theology. It was no easy task to join the faculty, as no candidate could join it unless he got a special recommendation from the church, and also, after he should pass a number of difficult exams. I got a recommendation from a few Churches after passing many tests to know my qualifications to become a man of religion. My entrance was sanctioned into the Faculty of Theology in 1944 as a boarding student. I was supposed to be appointed in Jerusalem had it not been for the war that broke out in Palestine that same year, so I was sent elsewhere. My acquaintance with Islam started in the Faculty of Theology where I studied Islam and all the methods through which we could shake the faith of Muslims and raise misconceptions in their understanding of their own religion. In 1952 I got my M.A. from Princeton University in U.S.A. and was appointed as a teacher in the Faculty of Theology in an Arab city. I used to teach Islam in the faculty as well as the faulty misconceptions spread by its enemies and the missionaries against it. During that period I decided to enlarge my study of Islam, so that I should not read the missionaries books on it only. I had so much faith in myself that I was confirmed to read the other point of view. Thus I began to read books written by Muslim authors. I also decided to read the Qur’an and understand its meanings. This was helped by my love of knowledge and moved by my desire to add more proofs against Islam. The result was, however, exactly the reverse. My position began to shake and I started to feel a strong internal struggle and I discovered the falsehood of everything I had studied and preached to the people. But I could not face myself bravely and tried instead to overcome this internal crisis and continue my work. I was sent to an Arab city as secretary general of the German Swiss Mission. That was only my apparent position for my real mission was to preach against Islam in an Arab country especially among Muslims. A missionary conference was held at that time at a hotel there. That day I spoke too much, reiterating all the repeated misconceptions against Islam; and at the end of my speech, the internal crisis came to me again and I started to revise my position. I began to ask myself: Why should I say and do all these things when I know for sure I am a liar, as this is not the truth? I took my leave before the end of the conference and went out alone to my house. I was completely shaken. As I walked through [a] public garden, I heard a verse of the Qur’an on the radio. It said: (Say: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur’an). They said: We have really heard a wonderful recital! It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein: We shall not join (in worship) any gods with our Lord.) (Surat Al-Jinn: 1-2), (And as for us, since we have listened to the Guidance, we have accepted it: and any one who believes in His Lord, has no fear of either a short (account) or of any injustice.) (Surat Al-Jinn: 13) I felt a deep comfort that night and when I returned home I spent the whole night all by myself in my library reading the Qur’an. My wife asked me about the reason of my sitting up all night and I pleaded from her to leave me alone. I stopped for a long time thinking and meditating on the verse; (Had We sent down this Qur’an on a mountain, verily thou wouldst have seen it humble itself and cleave asunder for fear of Allah.) (Surat Al-Hashr: 21) And the verse: (Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and the Pagans, and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”: Because amongst these are men devoted to learning. And men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognize the truth: They pray: “Our Lord! We believe, write us down among the witnesses. What cause can we have not to believe in Allah and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?”) (Surat Al-Ma’ida: 82-84) That same night I took my final decision. In the morning I spoke with my wife from whom I have three sons and one daughter. But no sooner than she felt that I was inclined to embrace Islam than she cried and asked for help from the head of the mission. His name was Monsieur Shavits from Switzerland. He was a very cunning man. When he asked me about my true attitude, I told him frankly what I really wanted and then he said: “Regard yourself out of a job until we discover what has befallen you.” Then I said: “This is my resignation from my job.” He tried to convince me to postpone it, but I insisted. So he spread a rumor among the people that I had gone mad. Thus I suffered a very severe test and oppression until I moved to the capital of the country I was in. In the capital, I was introduced to a respectable professor who helped me overcome my severe trial and this he did without knowing anything about my story. He treated me as a Muslim for I introduced myself to him as such although until then I did not embrace Islam officially. Dr. Jamal was highly interested in Islamic studies and wanted to make a translation of the Qur’an to be published in America. He asked me to help him because I was fluent in English since I had got my M.A. from an American university. He also knew that I was preparing a comparative study of the Qur’an, the Torah and the Bible. We cooperated in this comparative study and in the translation of the Qur’an. When the professor knew that I had resigned from my job and that I was then unemployed, he helped me with a job in a company. So I was well established after a short while. I did not tell my wife about my intention to embrace Islam thus she thought that I had forgotten the whole affair and that it was nothing but a transitory crisis that no more existed. But I knew quite well that my official conversion to Islam needed long complicated measures and it was in fact a battle which I preferred to postpone for some time until I became well off and after I completed my comparative study. In 1955 I did complete my study and my material and living affairs became well established. I resigned from the company and set up a training office for importing stationery and school articles. It was a successful business from which I gained much more money than I needed. Thus I decided to declare my official conversion to Islam. On the 25th of December 1959, I sent a telegram to the head of the American Mission in the country I was in informing him that I had embraced Islam. --------------------------------- My wife left me at that time and took with her all the furniture of our house --------------------------------- When I told my true story to Dr. Jamal he was completely astonished. When I declared my conversion to Islam, new troubles began. Seven of my former colleagues in the mission had tried their best to persuade me to cancel my declaration, but I refused. They threatened to separate me from my wife and I said: “She is free to do as she wishes.” They threatened to kill me. But when they found me to be stubborn they left me alone and sent to me an old friend of mine who was also a colleague of mine in the mission. He wept very much in front of me. So I recited before him the following verses from the Qur’an: (And when they listen to the revelation received by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognize the truth: They pray: “Our Lord! We believe, write us down among the witnesses. What cause can we have not to believe in Allah and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?”) (Qur’an Surat Al-Ma’ida: 84). I said to him, “You should have wept in humiliation to God on hearing the Qur’an and believe in the truth which you know but you refuse.” He stood up and left me as he saw no use. My official conversion to Islam was in January 1960. My wife left me at that time and took with her all the furniture of our house. But all my children joined me and embraced Islam. The most enthusiastic among them was my eldest son Isaac who changed his name to Osman, then my second son Joseph and my son Samuel whose name is Jamal and daughter Majida who is now called Najwa. Osman is now a professor of philosophy in Sorbonne University in Paris teaching oriental studies and psychology. He also writes in Le Monde magazine. My wife left the house for six years and agreed to come back in 1966 provided that she keeps her religion. I accepted this because in Islam there is no compulsion in religion. I said to her: “I do not want you to become a Muslim for my sake but only after you are convinced.” She feels now that she believes in Islam but she cannot declare this for fear of her family but we treat her as a Muslim woman and she fasts in Ramadan because all my children pray and fast. My daughter Najwa is a student in the Faculty of Commerce, Joseph is a pharmacologist and Jamal is an engineer. During this period, that is since 1961 until the present time I have been able to publish a number of books on Islam and the methods of the missionaries and Orientalists against it. I am now preparing a comparative study about women in the three Divine religions with the object of highlighting the status of women in Islam. In 1973 I performed Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) and I am doing activities preaching Islam. I hold seminars in the universities and charitable societies. I received an invitation from Sudan in 1974 where I held many seminars. My time is fully used in the service of Islam. My faith in Islam has been brought about through reading the Qur’an and the biography of Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God be upon him. I no longer believed in the misconceptions against Islam and I am especially attracted by the concept of unity of God, which is the most important feature of Islam. God is only One. Nothing is like Him. This belief makes me the servant of God only and of no one else. Oneness of God liberates man from servitude to any human being and that is true freedom. I also like very much the rule of forgiveness in Islam and the direct relationship between God and His servants. (Say: “O my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Turn ye to your Lord (in repentance) and submit to Him before the Chastisement comes on you: After that ye shall not be helped.”) (Surat Al-Zumor:53-54). *Source: The Islamic Bulletin, San Francisco, CA 94141-0186 --------------------------------- Please feel free to contact the editor of My Journey to Islam at: Journeytoislam@islam-online.net
  5. Northerner I can understand the envy here is it that obvious? i tried to put on brave face and take a deep breath. Arsenal sign this spanish wonderkid and man utd sign Saha, who do we sign??? no one, Houllier still thinks he doesnt need any more players to win PL, now that is dumb,,,,i just hope he goes in the summer and we get *** Hiddink who i rate very highly or Sven, now that wud be wicked,,,,,,,,still hopiful we beat yous lot at Highbusy in April
  6. lol@ libaax yeah boomerang and cartoon network is my escape
  7. that may be worth up to £20million :confused: £8m to be exact and £20m based on: appearances for club and country trophies won, PL, CL, Cups etc so dont get all up you arses, good player but lets just wait and see, the best way to judge a player is to see him play week in week out, tell u the truth the only footage i say of this guy was last year when he scored and his team mate bit his private parts while they were celebrating, yuk yuk , hope this aint repeated at Highbury,,,,,, £20 million? my ar$$ --------nal
  8. ^^^read my previous post, the bit in bold,,,,,doesnt make it right and acceptable i know, but guidlines were in place on the treatment of slaves, now are there any other such rules/guidlines in relation to slavery? Slavery existed and still does whether you like it or not, but at there was recognition in the importance of not abusing abusing those slaves with the aim of phased eradication,,,,,, I don't think everything was THAT pretty and nice back in the day. my point exactly
  9. thanx for illaborating,,,,superiority indeed is something many have become blind to,,,, Islam laid out clear guidelines defining the rights and status of those still in slavery , not so that such rights and status would be used as an excuse to perpetuate slavery, but to gradually carry the phasing out of slavery to its ultimate conclusion: its eradication. this is where the confusion occurs,,,,,thanx for the link,,,,,,
  10. this is not the way http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3430305.stm
  11. i dont believe it,,,,,, the question the here is not if its true however, the question i want to ask is,,, What Libaax is doin on the CBBC (Childrens BBC)website?.......havnt seen u around for a while bruv, and when u reappear we have a link to the CBBC website,,,,,what is not enough cartoons when younger?
  12. So the q here is, is slavery acceptable in Islam? We all know about racial slavery and where it stemmed from, arabia. So no need to elaborate on that any further. Now, as for the question in hand, i'm sure slavery is prohibited in islam. We all automatically precieve slavery to be ie slave ships (amistad), cotton picking western type atrocities. The important thing is to defrenciate between slavery galo style and slavery through islamic ways. There are rules on how to treat your slave. ie treat him as your brother. Will read up on it ia,,,,, Libaax, with due respect bro, i think the Hadeeth was more on racial grounds than slavery. Very interesting debate, carry on, be careful and please no sillyness :cool:
  13. Dawaco says: You found a way to get the true year of birth out of unsuspecting nomads. In the guise of a fun lil' horoscope games lol, why u got to qarxis me like that for??? it was working well until u spoke, damn,,,,, :rolleyes: dont worry i can reveal yr chinese sign for u if u like, its.............what do u think ppl shall i? Vote Yes or No, i will count votes by the end of the day,,,,,,,,,
  14. *****aykuma Salaam Nadia and welcome to SOL, hope u enjoy the site,,,,, any of you nomads go to madrasas to learn the Quran or are you too busy with college/university and work? Personally i'm the latter, i know its bad but thats the truth, leaving home early and gettin back late is my usual day. Having been at an advanced stage when i was younger i must admit that i have fallen off the pedastall. Madras is more for the younger generation, my problem is not memorising as when i hear the 1st couple of verses i tend to remember the Surrah and recite it. My problem is pronounciation which is what tend concentrate on at the moment. I have found the easiest way to do this to listen to a tape while driving.
  15. Moti says: sxb northerner is there a way someone can change his sign lol, u can cliam a different year like most somalis do and keep saying to yourself i was not born in 71 Anyway yr in good company Famous boars include: David Blunkett the ignorant british home secratary who has said amongst other things that we shud speak english at home, he has laid the foundations for police to brutalise us, Sean Bean - actor Goldeneye, Lord of the Rings and from my home city and Michael Parkinson - the racist TV personality who did that famous interview with Mohammed Ali.
  16. You know You are Asian when... * When you tell your parents you got 98%, and they ask you what happened to the other two percent. * There is a sale on any item, you buy 100 of them. * You make tea in a saucepan. * You never buy bin bags, but use your saved grocery bags for it. * You put your clothes in suitcases instead of wardrobes. * You have a 'Singer Brother' sewing machine at home. * Your mother has a minor disagreement with her sister and doesn't talk to her for ten years. * You call an older person you've never met before "uncle". * You hide everything from your parents. * Your mother does everything for you if you are male. * You do all the housework and cooking if you are female. * Your relatives alone could populate a small city. * Everyone is a family friend. * Everyone always called you for help on homework. * You study law, medicine or engineering at university. * You were thick so you studied computer science or business instead. * You know no one who has studied music. * You went to a university as far away from home as possible. * You still came back home to live with your parents after you had finished. * Your best friend got married at the age of 18. * You like the meat well done. * You eat onions with everything. * You use chilli sauce instead of tomato ketchup. * You fight over who pays the dinner bill. * You say you hate Indian films(/songs) but secretly watch(/hear) them * You avoid public places when with a member of the opposite sex, especially if there is an acquaintance within a 250 miles radius. * You always say "open the light" instead of "turn the light on". * You secure your baggage with a rope. * You're walking out of customs with your trolley at the airport and you see all twenty-five members of your family who have come to pick you up. * You get very upset when airlines refuse to accept your luggage which is just 80 lbs. overweight. * You go back to your parents' country and people treat you like a member of the royal family. * You ask your dad a simple question and he tells you story of how he had to walk miles barefoot just to get to school. * Your Dad drives a Nissan. * You're rich so he drives a Mercedes. * You are ALWAYS taking off and putting on your shoes wherever you go. * When you were little you always wondered why your English friends waited until after breakfast to brush their teeth when you did it first thing in the morning . * To your English friends, oil is used purely for cooking and not as a grooming aid. * Your parents have nicknames but only because people they work with just stop when trying to read their names. * You have annoying nicknames like Chotu or Chicku. * Your parents call all your friends "Beta" (son). * Your mother measures wealth in gold and diamonds . * Your parents drink 3 cups of tea a day. * Your parents compare you to all of their friends' kids. * At least once a week your mom says, "I want to go to India/Pakistan". * No one ever seems to call ahead of time to say they are coming over for a visit. * Your parents worry what other people will think if you're not going to be a doctor/ engineer.
  17. oh i 4got to post the link,,,,, http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/community/chinese_new_year/animals.shtml
  18. i'm a ram, People born in the Year of the Ram are said to be elegant and artistic. so true,,,,,,
  19. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/3430673.stm
  20. Arsenal land Chelsea tie http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/3428589.stm Shaqsi for this game, No Henry BIG Problem,,,,,
  21. This sort of things shock me especially Foe, watching it live with the whole fam was very freaky indeed :eek: , it is very sad and all the more reason why we shud all stay as fit as can be possible, never the less waa camalki illahay, it was written for him, and i will proceed to attend footy training 2mrw night,,,,,,
  22. Newscastle? No problem http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/3403711.stm
  23. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3429803.stm subxanallah, illahay hauwada-nixaristo, ameen shocking news indeed,,,,,,,,,,
  24. ^^^lol, i wasnt speaking for myself but for the general somali youth population,,,,,, i like the Lion claws on the ribs, that will be my summer time attire,,,,
  25. Check it out http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/3414745.stm http://www.theaerialview.com/the_aerial_view/2004/01/puma_unveils_ne.html