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  1. N.O.R.F

    Cricket

    darn aussie, always seem to do it :mad: how long has it been since you played cricket BTW lol, time flies ,,,,
  2. Asalaamacalaykum Nur, yr posts have been very benificial indeed, jazakallahukheara saxiib and please carry on with yr work/time and effort in educating us,,,,,,really appreaciate it. Nur: falling down as the peak is narrow difficult to keep balance dont put pressure onto yr self, i know how serious u are, but plz dont pressure yrself,,,,,,
  3. ^^^lol@ameenah, me---asian, yuk only asian i fancy is a lamb bunya with chutney and 4 chapatis D&D: News and sports kulahaa...boring sod! lol, life is more peaceful when yr boring,,,, Ameenah on D&D: from demolishing fast food restaurants to throwing paint at politicians. i'm sure i've seen yr face in the Evening Standard - 'wanted' section, £1000 reward, tempting,,,,,,,
  4. Please read this very isightful article..... Chew on this As the government considers banning qat, Alok Jha exclusively reveals new research on the drug Alok Jha Wednesday February 04 2004 The Guardian There are no signs outside the house, nothing to make it stand out on the rundown north London high street. Soft voices drift out from behind the faded black door. Inside, a man wearing a dishevelled beige suit stops whatever it is he has been doing and asks if he can help. We are hoping to buy some of his product. He pauses for a heartbeat and turns to pull out a box from beneath some plastic covers at the back of the room. "How much?" he asks, handing me a sample bundle of leafy twigs wrapped in a moist banana leaf. This is qat. And it's perfectly legal - for now. Qat has been used for centuries in countries such as Yemen, Ethiopia and Somalia to enhance relaxation or even to lubricate social gatherings. It is increasingly popular in Britain and is seen as a relatively safe high; an alternative to the west's favourite drug, alcohol. But new research on the plant, seen by Life, could taint this cosy image. It shows that qat's main psychoactive ingredients, cathinone (which is almost identical in chemical terms to amphetamine) and cathine (much less potent) might not be alone in causing the plant's buzz. There could be dozens more chemicals involved and no one knows what long-term effects they could have on the brain. The government's Advisory Council on the Monitoring of Drugs is considering possible classification later this year amid concerns from doctors and counsellors that qat is at the heart of increasing psychological problems and a breakdown in social relations in communities that use it. In the United States, Canada and most of Europe, qat (also known as chat, jaad, or khat) is illegal; penalties for trafficking or dealing it are equivalent to those given out for cocaine or heroin. In the UK, I managed to buy it for £3 a bundle without much difficulty. Qat is an evergreen shrub that grows naturally on the mountain sides of many parts of Africa. In Ethiopia, Yemen and Kenya the plant is cultivated and several tons a week are bundled up for export; the majority ends up in Britain for use by the Somali community. Around 90% of Somali men in Britain are thought to chew the plant. The biggest population of chewers is in Yemen, where the plant is used as a social stimulant. Peter Houghton, a professor of pharmacognosy at King's College, has been studying the chemical constitution of qat for over four years. "We're still not very sure what is actually happening when people chew qat," he says. In the first meeting of its kind in the UK, he decided to corral the latest scientific thinking. A group of chemists, pharmacologists, doctors and counsellors came together to share what they knew and what concerned them about the possible effects of qat. A report of the meeting will be published tomorrow in the Pharmaceutical Journal. Houghton had new research to share with the group: one of his students, Muna Ismail, had found a new class of psychoactive chemicals in qat. Known as cathedulins, Ismail had shown that these chemicals, like cathinone, make the brain release dopamine, the feel-good neurotransmitter chemical. Ismail presented her work to fellow scientists at a conference in Seattle last week; Houghton hopes to get a paper on her work published in a scientific journal as soon as possible, hopefully leading to further work on the cathedulins. "We do need to find out more about biological activity of these cathedulins because it adds another dimension to the analysis," says Houghton. "There need to be more medical surveys to see what adverse effects there might be and try to tease them out from other factors." Those abusing qat tend to be young Somali males who feel stranded in the UK."They've come from a war-torn area away from their families [and] with less support and constraints than a family environment would impose," says Elina Palazidou, a psychiatrist at St Clement's hospital in east London, and a seminar participant. According to the scientists, there are several potential results of excessive qat use. It raises tolerance to the chemicals in the plant and this, in turn, raises the user's blood pressure and risk of heart disease. Studies in Yemen showed that the incidence of heart at tacks among chewers was 49% higher than in non-chewers. Regular users had bad gum disease and a tendency to lose teeth and there is a high incidence of oesophageal and gastric cancers among users. The plant has also been linked to a reduction in sperm quality and impotency. There are also issues of hygiene. "Qat rooms are traditionally kept dark and hot - in Yemen and Ethiopia observers report that the windows are closed to keep the heat in as this is believed to raise the potency of the qat," says Axel Klein of Drugscope. "Tobacco smoke hangs in the air, qat leaves are placed on dirty carpets and chewed without washing; tea and water is drunk from cups that are not cleaned properly and, as some chat chewers have internal lesions in their mouths, infectious diseases can be passed on." Perhaps the biggest issue is what the plant is doing to users' heads."The main reason [qat's] causing concern is that quite a lot of people who chew qat regularly get psychotic episodes," says Houghton. "They can become agitated, aggressive and their psychotic state will worsen. Or they can become manic and reckless," says Palazidou. "While they're chewing qat they're aroused, they don't feel like sleeping, they're hyperactive and they may become psychotic. When the effects have worn off, they feel worn out, they are sleepy, they can be depressed and can even feel suicidal." The extreme psychological effects of qat abuse do not seem to mirror problems of cannabis use, where psychosis appears to develop only in those with a history of it. "The evidence available so far suggests that the majority of people who develop psychosis while taking qat had no previous history of mental illness and had no family history of mental illness," says Palazidou. It's not all bad. There has never been a record of an overdose due to qat use and there is no evidence of addiction to qat in the sense of physical withdrawal symptoms. "There is some evidence that there is psychological dependence in that it's been claimed that people do have cravings - they go out seeking qat," says Palazidou. "In smaller amounts, there may be very mild withdrawal symptoms like a bit of trembling sweating and feeling a bit euphoric. But people who consume larger amounts, they can have a more serious withdrawal state which can happen a few days after they stop chewing." The government has decided that the potential dangers of the narcotic plant need further examination. The Home Office's drugs and alcohol research unit began its own investigation late in 2003 and will report in the autumn. If they conclude that qat is dangerous, they may well recommend that it should be classified along with other illegal drugs such as cocaine, cannabis and amphetamines, bringing UK law into line with the majority of western countries. But without a definitive smoking gun that links qat to any confirmed psychological or physical harm, making it illegal may be a step too far. "My view is that banning it would be counter-productive," says Houghton. "At the moment, it's restricted mainly among the Somali community and, although it does cause these problems, it's more a matter of educating people and getting them to tell the health professionals they're working with. Banning it _ would just make it a sort of attractive black market commodity," says Houghton. Whatever the public may think of qat, the plant is an integral part of everyday life in some communities. In a survey of Somali communities' attitudes to qat in 1997, 66% of respondents felt that it helped them maintain their cultural identity. A staggering 90% said they would rather their children chew qat than drink alcohol. The Home Office says that its decision will rest on one thing: whether research shows qat is harmful to human health. As scientists have just begun to demonstrate, however, finding a definitive answer will be far from easy. Getting high on the road to Addis It was going to be a long journey, perhaps 11 hours on stressful northern Ethiopian roads and tracks. My companion Mark and I had seen the shrub called qat - pronounced "chat" - growing widely in the fields but didn't think about it much for the first 100 miles. But curiosity got the better and when we saw an old man selling a huge bunch of fresh leaves, we could not resist. We handed over $2 and - to the hilarity of our driver - began chewing one leaf at a time, followed, it must be said, by three or four, and then handfuls. After 10 minutes there was a slight numbing of the gums. After 15, Mark started jabbering loudly. At 25 minutes we were laughing uproariously. After 45 minutes, Ethiopia's troubles had slipped away and a sense of wellbeing, alertness, euphoria and lucidity took over. Over the next three hours we could report heightened senses, ideas flowing, periods of great calmness, interspersed with spells of reflection and analysis - like, why can't British charities develop a line of fair trade chat chewing gum, and turn round Ethiopia's economy? In fact, Ethiopia does pretty well out of qat. The seedless plant which best grows at 3-6,000 feet above sea level is grown across vast areas as a cash crop and in economic terms is the country's fourth largest export. In upland regions such as Harange, it is the backbone of the economy, employing thousands of farmers, packers, harvesters and traders. Ethiopia is thought to have earned about $60 million from qat cultivation in 2000. It is a popular plant to grow, too. It resists drought, can be harvested throughout the year and suppresses appetite. It is also far more profitable than most traditional crops. Moreover, the trade, transport and price is - theoretically - regulated by the government with responsible producer associations, licensed exporters and traders making large, legal profits. The price is set through inter-governmental agreements, regional government is allowed to tax exports, and huge quantities are trucked to neighbouring Djibouti or flown to Yemen where more than 85% of the adults use it. But although overuse of the drug is condemned in Ethiopia and throughout the Middle East, it is widely recognised to be as important, socially, as coffee in the west. Users say that it has no criminality associated with it, and many people insist that it helps to create a friendly environment, even to help resolve disputes. Many Muslims use it during Ramadan because it reduces fatigue and hunger. Qat is also believed to have medicinal value, being used locally to treat influenza, gonorrhea and asthma. The west, however, is increasingly suspicious of the plant. This largely follows the botched US-led 1992 invasion of Somalia during which many troops used top-grade qat. The drug was blamed by the military for some of the well-documented mistakes made, and the US drug enforcement agency now classes its main active ingredient, cathinone, as a schedule 1 drug, on the same level as heroin and cocaine. Recently, it has been pressurising other countries to crack down on it. Since it was banned in Canada, a black market has opened, and the price has risen tenfold. But in Britain, qat is still legal and can be bought in many markets. However, the leaves available here are seldom fresh. This is important because the cathinone reverts to very mild cathine within 48 hours of the leaves being picked. Rather than a massive Ethiopian buzz, the British user is likely to get only a very mild hit. Although the World Health Organisation says that medical problems associated with qat are "infrequent", governments claim it is addictive and has a negative impact on communities. "People forget about their work commitments and spend hours chewing," regretted one Ethiopian official in London this week. As we discovered on that long road to Addis, the man is absolutely right. John Vidal Further reading Pharmacognosy department, King's College: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/kis/schools/life_ sciences/health/pharmacy/resgrps/cogres.html All you need to know about qat: http://www.al-bab.com/yemen/soc/qat.htm Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited
  5. Jamal says: The strange thing is I can't really stand these programmes. They get up my nerves coudnt agree with you more,,,,,,, my attention span is very short if sport or news aint involved (Eastenders an exception sometimes) call me boring but these programmes are just useless to me,i try to watch 10 things at the same time usually,,,,, Mind you, the wire looks good, but it will be out in UK by 2006 i guess,,,,,,i was a big fan of Homicide life on the street (based in Baltimore )but thats long gone now,,,,,,,
  6. when things aint going his way he whines too much , that Mancini is quality tho,,,,,,,i still think hes on drugs, the way gets up n down the pitch,damn,,,,,,,, :confused:
  7. Francesco Totti's magnificent half-volley slammed the underside of the bar. now that wud have been a fantastic goal, gr8 game for the Roma-ites, gr8 performance, Totti was wicked and the 4th goal was deyya, as we say up norf, as for Juve, cr*p defence, with cr*p midfield and a cr*p attack, taking nothing away from Roma tho, they performed really well and deserved the win, 4-0 was a bit much tho. That kick montero did on Totti, i so wanted to do that myself,,,,,,
  8. jazakallahukhearan, mashallah, a whole host of reminders,striving to pray and perfecting salaah is an obligation for us all, thanx shaabella
  9. N.O.R.F

    Baltimore!!

    Otherwise the city is known as the murder capitol of the US damn better be careful out there bro, joking, have a wicked time,,,,,, :cool:
  10. N.O.R.F

    Overrated

    ^^hes not exactly going to be objective now is he, hes just being 'diplomatic',,,,,,
  11. I'm built like a rugby playa loooooooool, are u a scrum half???lol maybe yr right, it maybe too powerful for me, i should slow down on the A406 in future, just cant help it :cool:
  12. ONLY a couple of quid, well u need to speculate to accumulate, or was it the other way round :confused: , dont think you will be able to handle a powerful car neway
  13. N.O.R.F

    Cricket

    a lackluster performance by the badbads (indians), tandulker and dravid were dispointing, but hey it a game of 3 halves, i think,,,, rocko do u play much cricket down there? i havnt played since school, dont ask how long , i was a pretty good bowler even if i do say so myself,,,
  14. ^^^we are not falling into any trap, we are debating whether or not this disaster could have been avoided. In order to discuss, criticisms have to be made to stamp a view point. There are hungry ppl in Somalia and so is there in Palestine, Ethiopia, Chechnia and many other countries. Is my priority with Somalis only???? When something happens in Palestine do think 'oh its only Palestine i shud care more about my own ppl'? Who is my own ppl? Somalis or the gr8ter Ummah? The muslim Ummah is my priority!!!!!!! I have noticed that many news agencies didnt mention a word about the hajj until the tragedy occured with only a few lines at the end of the report stating why so many ppl go to hajj. Thats just common sense, we should be able to distinguish the negativity coming out from the media by now. Brother lander, i'm sure contingency measures were taken in all areas of the hajj in order to avoid catastrophies. However, these measures are not always adhered to for some reason or other. Maybe security were tired and not paying attention at that particular time in that particular place. Now do we blame the security for being tired and not paying attention or was is a will of allah that they became tired? What ever happens in this world, good or bad, it wudnt happen without the will of allah swt.
  15. ^^^lol, well we could have a whip round in the sports section and see how much we come up with,,,,,,i have a couple of quid in my pocket right now,,,,,,,
  16. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3460737.stm His decision means that he is the first reigning heavyweight champion to retire since Rocky Marciano in 1956. "I'm proud to be heavyweight champion." A gr8 champion from day 1,,,,,,,, BIG UP!
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  18. ^^^ameen Stop critising Saudi government, they deserve respect and appreciation, they do their ultimate best to look after pilgrims & the two masjids. If you ever been their u would have known the great job they have done in the past and still doing. True indeed, you can put all sorts of measures to make Hajj safer for everyone, but there is never any guarantees, whatever allah wills,,,,,,,
  19. Zynab says: brother invest in property, residental houseing preferably . that is the only investment u will get greater return above ur investment forget all the Hi-tech stuff, too risky for yr hard earned cash. Buy a property-to-let, where u dont occupy the property but let/rent it out, you will recoup yr investment with out paying a penny (except for initial deposit)ie u have reliable professional ppl living in yr property who pay rent. This rent pays the mortgage on yr property. Hey presto before you know u own yr own place that u paid about 15% for. Ps be careful of the morgage system, something u will need to look into before purchase of any kind. There are halal morgages available in the UK, not sure exactly how halal they are,,,,so depending where u are u will need to do yr research. somfin i've been lookin into myself
  20. N.O.R.F

    Overrated

    ^^^lol, i think this debate is dead and buried, roll on euro 2004,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  21. 1452: The referee blows for full-time and four-time winners Egypt go out of the 2004 Nations Cup. Cameroon qualify in first place from Group C on five points, while Algeria finish second with four. Egypt also finish on four points but exit courtesy of Algeria's 2-1 victory over them in both teams' second Group C tie. 1 arab down, 3 to go,,,,,
  22. well if egypt dont scoe in the next 15 mins vs cameroon, they aint going thru,,,,,
  23. N.O.R.F

    Overrated

    Peninsula and Shujui suggest that we little suggestions buy any tapes of the Euro'00 to refresh your memory maybe u dont need to buy tapes to recall how well a gr8 player performed in a tourny, if i and many others cant remember Totti doing much then he aint a gr8 player, simple as that,,,,,
  24. ^^^lol, easy lads shaqsi, my comments were not aimed at yourself as i have noticed yr in the hardcore element of Gooners. My comments were more for the 'part time/who ever is winning at the time' arm chair fans whos team affiliations change with the weather.
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