What is stopping anyone of us from sponsoring an orphan? Nothing!

^^What do the Somalinet crew have to do with this? Please explain.

Miyu duumanayey?

In the Somali capital, Mogadishu, elders of the locally-dominant ****** clan tell VOA that the interim government's plan to disarm civilians there by force will only ignite clan warfare and bring more instability. VOA Correspondent Alisha Ryu has more from our East Africa Bureau in Nairobi. Struggling to assert control in the violence-wracked capital, the Somali transitional government announced on Sunday that its troops will soon begin conducting a massive, house-to-house search for weapons throughout Mogadishu. Deputy Defense Minister Salad Ali Jelle says it is the intention of the government to disarm all civilians and bring security to the capital within 30 days. In a telephone interview with VOA, the leaders of the dominant ****** clan in Mogadishu voiced strong objections to the disarmament plan. Clan elder Abdulkadir Haji Muse says the biggest concern is who will be doing the disarming. He says most of the interim government troops patrolling the city are not from Mogadishu, but from the semi-autonomous region of Puntland. Moreover, the soldiers are members of ****** clan's chief rival, the *****. Puntland is the home of interim President Abdullahi Yusuf, who is a *****. Muse says a move to disarm Mogadishu residents by force would be viewed by many people not as an effort by President Yusuf to bring security, but a move to marginalize and disenfranchise the ******. The clan elder says he and many others are convinced that the disarmament plan is a ***** attempt to politically and militarily weaken the ******. Muse says his clan, which dominated the ousted Islamic Courts Union, will never accept government orders to disarm. Somalia's multi-clan, U.N.-backed interim government tried to disarm civilians in Mogadishu two months ago, but postponed the process after hundreds of angry people rioted in the city. Government officials say they will not back down this time because disarmament is the only way African peacekeepers can safely take control of the city's security. The peacekeepers are to replace thousands of Ethiopian troops, whose military support of the interim government was crucial in driving out the Islamists in late December. But many Somalis in the city view the Ethiopians as an invading force and the government they are protecting has been unable to gain popular support. Since January, both government and Ethiopian troops have come under near-daily attack from insurgents, who are believed to be radical Islamists, operating in cooperation with some disgruntled ****** factional militias. About 1,000 troops from Uganda are already in Mogadishu as the vanguard of a planned eight-thousand member African Union peacekeeping mission to Somalia. But another ****** clan leader, Khalid Hussein Abdi, tells VOA that their presence is not welcome. Abdi says he believes the peacekeepers will do nothing but support militias from Puntland and ***** clan members, who are planning to subjugate the ******. Violence against the Ugandan peacekeepers began as soon as they arrived in Mogadishu last Tuesday, when they were greeted with a mortar barrage near the airport. The following day, insurgents ambushed a convoy of peacekeepers and on Friday, a cargo plane, carrying equipment and several Ugandan soldiers, landed at the Mogadishu airport in flames. The Ugandan military said the plane had experienced mechanical problems and caught fire. But VOA has learned from reliable sources that the plane was hit by at least one rocket-propelled grenade fired from the ground . source

In the Somali capital, Mogadishu, elders of the locally-dominant ****** clan tell VOA that the interim government's plan to disarm civilians there by force will only ignite clan warfare and bring more instability. VOA Correspondent Alisha Ryu has more from our East Africa Bureau in Nairobi. Struggling to assert control in the violence-wracked capital, the Somali transitional government announced on Sunday that its troops will soon begin conducting a massive, house-to-house search for weapons throughout Mogadishu. Deputy Defense Minister Salad Ali Jelle says it is the intention of the government to disarm all civilians and bring security to the capital within 30 days. In a telephone interview with VOA, the leaders of the dominant ****** clan in Mogadishu voiced strong objections to the disarmament plan. Clan elder Abdulkadir Haji Muse says the biggest concern is who will be doing the disarming. He says most of the interim government troops patrolling the city are not from Mogadishu, but from the semi-autonomous region of Puntland. Moreover, the soldiers are members of ****** clan's chief rival, the *****. Puntland is the home of interim President Abdullahi Yusuf, who is a *****. Muse says a move to disarm Mogadishu residents by force would be viewed by many people not as an effort by President Yusuf to bring security, but a move to marginalize and disenfranchise the ******. The clan elder says he and many others are convinced that the disarmament plan is a ***** attempt to politically and militarily weaken the ******. Muse says his clan, which dominated the ousted Islamic Courts Union, will never accept government orders to disarm. Somalia's multi-clan, U.N.-backed interim government tried to disarm civilians in Mogadishu two months ago, but postponed the process after hundreds of angry people rioted in the city. Government officials say they will not back down this time because disarmament is the only way African peacekeepers can safely take control of the city's security. The peacekeepers are to replace thousands of Ethiopian troops, whose military support of the interim government was crucial in driving out the Islamists in late December. But many Somalis in the city view the Ethiopians as an invading force and the government they are protecting has been unable to gain popular support. Since January, both government and Ethiopian troops have come under near-daily attack from insurgents, who are believed to be radical Islamists, operating in cooperation with some disgruntled ****** factional militias. About 1,000 troops from Uganda are already in Mogadishu as the vanguard of a planned eight-thousand member African Union peacekeeping mission to Somalia. But another ****** clan leader, Khalid Hussein Abdi, tells VOA that their presence is not welcome. Abdi says he believes the peacekeepers will do nothing but support militias from Puntland and ***** clan members, who are planning to subjugate the ******. Violence against the Ugandan peacekeepers began as soon as they arrived in Mogadishu last Tuesday, when they were greeted with a mortar barrage near the airport. The following day, insurgents ambushed a convoy of peacekeepers and on Friday, a cargo plane, carrying equipment and several Ugandan soldiers, landed at the Mogadishu airport in flames. The Ugandan military said the plane had experienced mechanical problems and caught fire. But VOA has learned from reliable sources that the plane was hit by at least one rocket-propelled grenade fired from the ground . source

Rudy, are you saying a woman should not cover up?

Caamir, I know your stance is similar to his but what was so beautiful about it other than your agreement? An attempted justification for employing yesterday’s killers as ‘ministers’ today does not answer my earlier questions. I repeat: How will the TFG gain the trust of the people considering its members were warlords who kept Somalia in chaos for 16 years?

^^You mean the warlords that are 'ministers' today ya Caamir? Or are you going to accuse me of fabrication?

Caamir I'll take that as 'i dont have a clue' towards my questions shall i?

^^Take your time saxib but i'm looking for replies from the hardcore supporters. They seem to be running around other parts of the forum but not in this thread.

a DEAFENING silence!

Cambarro, look what you started! 7 pages in less than 24 hours. A new record?

^^Saxib its aimed mainly at those who find it dificult to go due to financial reasons. People dont go for free, its significantly cheaper as its only next door and a bus ride away though. This is a new scheme and is free for it may be difficult for.So if you know of anyone who would like to go then tell them to get to a adib branch and register.

^^Funny thing is they are planning to sit down with these same 'terrorists' in reconiliation meetings scheduled for next month.

^^Amiin. Sad indeed.

^^Why not just skip the queue and give the money and number (thats if your not expecting change). No one will take it as being rude. I often owe a number of people money simply because i dont carry cash! Its not that i'm afriad of being robbed.

Can you think of anyone who would like to go? As forwarded to me, please forward it to any one you know who is deserving and residing in UAE. Brothers in Islam - this is an opportunity for those who have not performed UMRA so far. It is free. Please let your friends and relatives know about it. May Allah bless you all. This Umrah package is offered from Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank - sponsored for deserving candidates. Umrah Program adib Application Criteria: *Applicant has to be at least 18 years old *Applicant must have not performed Umrah before *Applicant must be a local or an expat with a valid residence in UAE *Applicant should accept and comply with program terms and conditions Applicant can apply once only Draw Dates 07/01/2007 07/03/2007 07/05/2007 08/07/2007 20-25/01/2007 20-25/03/2007 20-25/05/2007 20-25/07/2007 The Pilgrim's package for Umrah will include: (1) Travel from Abu Dhabi to Jeddah and return on Etihad?s Coral class (2) Accommodation for three nights/four days in four star hotel (3) Transportation from Jeddah airport to hotel in Mekkah and return (4) A Holy Quran, an Ihram Dress and an Umrah Manasek Booklet (5) Three meals a day in an open buffet (6) Visa issuance fee (for expatriate pilgrims) JAZAK ALLAHU KHAIR

Tellytubbies? Spunch bob square pants? Simpsons?

eh, skip it , don't answer , cause i can't say the same about ya Maybe she doesnt want you to ya JB :confused:

To bad i dont have the channels (not gonna fork out 20 pounds a month for minimum 5 months just to catch one months action) No woman no cry,,,,,,,,,, I'm with my bearded brothers!

The President of the Republic of Djibouti, Ismail Omar Guelleh, speaking to Associated Press in Djibouti, Monday, March 5, 2007. The president said on Monday, the region is no safer since an Islamic group accused of having ties with Al-Qaida was driven out of Somalia (AP Photo/Sayyid Azim) DJIBOUTI, March 05, 2007 – The Horn of Africa is not safer now that a radical Islamic militia accused of having ties to al-Qaida has been driven from power in Somalia, the president of neighboring Djibouti said Monday. "As far as we are concerned, we think it (security in the Horn of Africa) is as it was before because of the misery and lack of basic needs of the population," President Ismael Omar Guelleh told The Associated Press in a rare interview. He spoke at the presidential palace in this tiny Red Sea state. "People lack basic needs. There is no medicine, no water or services, nothing. They are easily used for criminal activities. That threat still remains," he said. More than 90 million people live in the Horn of Africa countries of Djibouti, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia. Most live on less than US$1 (76 euro cents) a day. The region — particularly Somalia, which is emerging from years of anarchy — has been cited as a possible haven for terrorists since the Sept. 11, 2001 al-Qaida terror attacks on the United States. Djibouti is the base for a U.S.-led anti-terrorism task force in the Horn of Africa. More than 1,800 U.S. troops are based at Camp Lemonier, the task force headquarters. Guelleh told The Associated Press that no al-Qaida terrorists or sophisticated weapons had been found. Somalia's government had linked the Islamic group to al-Qaida. The government, backed by Ethiopian troops, ousted the Islamic movement in December. Djibouti , a former French colony neighboring Somalia and Ethiopia, played a key role in establishing a Somali transitional government in 2000 that eventually collapsed. The administration was replaced after lengthy negotiations by the current administration, set up in 2004 with U.N. backing. Guelleh, who was returned to power in 2005 elections where he was the only candidate, said foreign peacekeepers can help offer security in the country but not lasting peace. "The stabilization force will help but they cannot play the role of government, or parliament or clan or religious leaders ...," he said. "There was a possible justification (for the ousting of the Islamic group), but we have not seen the evidence yet," the president added. Source: AP

Arabic is usually only spoken by Arabs hence why its in the middle.

Ya Hunguri, thanks for your post. With regard to the reconciliation conference (which I doubt was the idea of the TFG by the way), yes it’s very much needed and yes all sides should take part in this effort. But I can guess the main sticking point will be the occupying forces. Questions will be raised as to how long these guys will be staying. No matter what anyone says, trust cannot be obtained when you have an occupying force in place. If the country is in the control of the TFG (like Duke always says), then why the need for Xabashi/AU forces? Does this not defeat the purpose of ‘unity’? Again, I have the feeling that the TFG is being encouraged to invite AU forces by Ethiopia. How will the TFG gain the trust of the people considering its members were warlords who kept Somalia in chaos for 16 years? I hope the pro TFG camp can give us an insight into how this can be achieved with a well-written piece.

Occupying forces have been in Somalia since the turn of the year and that’s not forgetting the thousands already present before the war. These forces, incase we have forgotten, came to the country to kill Muslims who had the audacity to try and implement Sheria law and rid their people of external forces who armed and financed the warlords. Today, we have Somalis promoting and supporting the occupation of their country with their thinking ‘officially’ based on the support for Transitional Government. However, members within this same ‘govnt’ were responsible for what can be termed as the ‘status quo’ before June 2006. This ‘status quo’ involved extortion, killings, rape, roadblocks and zero safety for the public at large. Those responsible for these crimes are today calling those who brought about a semblance of peace, law and order during the latter months on 2006, terrorists. Considering the mammoth task ahead for this ‘govnt’, how do its supporters feel confident about the future? How will last year’s warlord be a model citizen today? With discord amongst the people, how is the ‘govnt’ going to bring them back into the fold and convince them that there is a brighter future? When will the fighting stop? When will people be confident again of landing in Xamar for business or pleasure? Will this ‘govnt’ be a puppet regime? NOTE: All are welcome to post but I want the pro TFG crowd to give us something to chew on apart from the usual cheerleading. One-liners are not welcome, promises that things will get better without a clear and concise rationale will not be accepted. Its time to step up your game as it were, man up, punch harder etc.

loooooool Now that made me laugh