Assl All Wr Wb Yeah, heard that! And you aged how many years, if you dont mind me asking......yeah you do mind, dont ya? What is up with all these people? They all ducking...I AM GONNA SMOKE YOU LOT OUT! Does carpet-bombing ring a bell? that is why i am about to start if you dont reveal your ages! Seriously, what are you people afraid of? That people are gonna do a profile of you or you giving too much away? What is it, tell me? Uncle Geeljire is here, sure you can tell me!

Assl All Wr Wb Since education, locations and the likes have been covered, I thought I should bring this up. However, one thing should be clear. One is respected with his intellect, but not the years he/she has lived on this Earth. Which reminds me the old-age somali analogy: Village elders gathering at a tree and getting all the elders of the village to discuss a matter. As usual, the venue was under a shady tree, top of the tree was a youngster. He heard the elders saying to each other, 'let us get all the elders', which prompted this remark from the youngster, they didnt realise he was there, "you should be gathering the intellectuals not the elders". And the elders accepted the truth in the youngster's comment. The point of the story is "age doesn't have to matter, what should matter is one's intellectual capacity". Time to reveal the years........ Btw, I am 25 [old, right? I know} ---------------------- Geeljire geela waa wada jiraa waana kala jiraa. [Politics of the Baadiya]

Assl All Wr Wb. Fidele, walaal, that was good site. JizaakAllah. It actually taught me alot than I knew. But one thing needs clearing out; the sunnah and waajib [farad]. A lot of the stuff there for the men are sunnah, which are good and all good muslim should be following, but not a waajib [must]. Thanks again. ----------------------------- Geeljire geela waa wada jiraa, waana kala jiraa [Who said politics are for the urbanites?!]

Heard this several times on Cursedwood[known as Hollywood] movies few times. Why would I be stranded in an island in the first place? What the hell is wrong with my concience? Why would I get on to a boat that looks like it will break down in the middle of the sea? Think! And if it ever happened, I should make sure that I have alot food and water. Period. Most important thing for a human in order to keep breathing. Your question answered, I hope, unless you are asking us our fantasies! That should be in one's mind, whether dirty or halal.

Forgot to attach the evidence....below is the link from the bbc. BBC news/DentalShortage

Forgot to attach the evidence....below is the link from the bbc. BBC news/DentalShortage

I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw the queues to register with a dentist, NHS dentist, that is. Guess this demand will soar the salary of a dentist. Good luck to those who are qualified or qualifying. P.S. Did anyone say the suicide rate of dental pro's is high? Dont think so. Not anymore.

I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw the queues to register with a dentist, NHS dentist, that is. Guess this demand will soar the salary of a dentist. Good luck to those who are qualified or qualifying. P.S. Did anyone say the suicide rate of dental pro's is high? Dont think so. Not anymore.

Assl All Wr Wb I am afraid I am gonna have to agree with Nur. these crooks and whatever means they are using to hijack a country and its people havent had a real challenge from decent people. It seems we have put our feet up and are hoping that someone else is gonna take care of it, whilst we complacently enjoy someone else's shelter. It is sad. The notion that seems to becoming common in many muslim populas that someone else is gonna take care of your own backyard is just plain ********* . I hate to think this, but I think it will even get worse when some evil people with western mind and educaton and spin colloborates with these ruthless war-gangs, it is gonna be even tougher to beat them and present to the public the image of these guys as 'bad boys'. I think it is gonna take increadible group of people with increadible souls to beat the war-gangs and get this country to its people. the wound of somalia is not gonna heal until we quit talking and start acting positively and honestly. Salaam. P.S. Nur-ow, the term 'intellectual prostitute' suits them right and was really innovative.

Assl All Wr Wb This place definitely needs something to enrich its content and take it beyond the 'forum-for-posts' site, to more brain stimulating, rich in content site that reflects the diversity and the intellect of young somalis around the globe. Bashi and Nur, I knew i could always trust you two the fronting of any new movement, positive, that is. Salaam. P.S. Nur, why Anarchist, as a title? How about leaving it as 'Nomad'. Just a thought.

Assl All Wr Wb This, in anyone's measure of success, is the ultimate of all successes. Authentic about the reward of the martyr in the life hereafter. Allah SW has prepared six special distinctions for the martyr: 1. He will be forgiven upon the first outpouring of his blood 2. He will see his place in Paradise 3. He will be protected from the torment of the grave and from the horrors of Faz'ul Akbar [the great terror]. 4. He will be decorated with adornment of faith 5. He will be wedded to the women of Paradise 6. He will be allowed to intercede on behalf of seventy [70] relatives. -----and, the grace of God doesn't stop there, as an ultimate measure of respect, it is generally agreed upon that the earth doesnt consume the corpse of a martyr, just like the prophets. How about that, Nomads, for a price...eh? May Allah make us those that die on the path of raising his Almighty Word [Kalimatul-Aclaa].

Source: Snet Forum. The real paradox of our times by Axmed Asmali. The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings in our cities but shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but also enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time for ourselves and our families. We have more university degrees and other high qualifications but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems of all kinds, more medicine, but less good health and the absence of disease. illnesses. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch television too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We have been all the way to the moon and back and are even exploring the possibility of sending man to Planet Mars, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbour. We conquered the outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air in our environments, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudices. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small characters, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes in families but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one-night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit the delete key on your computer. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath.

I didnt get it either. Could be that I am GeelJire, obviously. But, seriously, there is a background knowledge to it, which is understanding of Afro-American culture, if you dont, you dont get the joke. So all of you Soma-Ameriques, please be easy with those of us living elsewhere in the world.

Assl All Wr Wb Isnt that what the author's whole post was about!?...hhahhahha. Shows how nasty human imagination can be, when not guarded! P.S. Do I sense that these sort of jokes are becoming common......just like Lakkad did!?

Assl All Wr Wb I think, it helps to be ....what was I saying? yeah, it definitely helps to have an interest in what you will be talking about. Be genuinely enthusiastic about it. Do a good research. and be yourself. Dont try to imitate or impress etc. If you have done well, none will be able to deny it, if not, it will be on everyone's face. Rest assured though, if you have given your best honestly and didnt get there, you will realise it without sense of guilty. That how I see it, anyway. Honest works for me and I think for every decent human. I will leave you with these words.... --One has to try before he/she fails. --Failure are those that when they fail, never bother again. Fii AmmaaniLaah.

Assl All Wr Wb Well, I guess, and it is only a 'guess', that Hutton had faced the idea of bringing down the current British Admin or blaming the BBC. Faced with that, I am asking you, who would you go for? and this is not an Islamic State where everything is crystal clear. I think the easy option is to blame a corporation rather than a Govt and the geezer did exactly that. Come on! We know it aint right, but hey, this is De-Mock-Race-y! Western style. One more thing, we Brit Muslims need to be more clever and broadminded. We dont need to be at the stage of being scared when the word Yuhud is mentioned. We need to vote where we think our interests lie, not for one's race. Remember what happened in US elections of 2000!? Muslims voting for Bush, mostly b/c of that Jew running mate Lieberman and Bush did indeed returned the favour! P.S. Ameenah, Howard is a Jew and a first generation immigrant, as far as hearsay.

Assl All Wr Wb Awale Mohamed had been pleading for help for days. He knew he was psychotic and was telling anyone who would listen that he was ready to kill himself. On Monday a GP referred him to a psychiatrist, who said he could see Mr Mohamed in six weeks. St George Hospital said it could not assess him until Tuesday afternoon. When he finally reached the hospital's mental health unit, he was sent home after an hour's assessment by a nurse with an assurance that he would be OK. Twenty-four hours later, Mr Mohamed was taken back to St George in an ambulance, having been shot dead in the street by police. The 31-year-old had attacked 22-year-old Matthew Fitzhenry on the shopping strip in Riverwood for no apparent reason and failed to answer the demands of the officer to drop his knife. Mr Fitzhenry, an honours graduate in chemical engineering from UNSW, was walking home from doing the grocery shopping for a shared house when he was grabbed from behind by Mr Mohamed outside a video shop. Mr Mohamed's closest relative in Australia, his cousin Sugule Mohamed, suspects that "when he saw the police there's a high possibility that Awale might have panicked". After releasing Mr Fitzhenry, he started stabbing himself as he moved towards the policeman. Witnesses reported hearing three shots during the incident. After visiting his son in St George Hospital yesterday, John Fitzhenry said Matthew was sitting up in bed recovering from wounds to his lungs and other cuts he sustained while defending himself. He thanked police for saving his son's life. Sugule Mohamed does not blame anyone for what happened on Wednesday afternoon, but he wants to know why the mental health system failed Awale. "He should have got the help that was asked for, and he should not have died," Mr Mohamed said. Awale Osman Mohamed was born in Somalia and moved to Australia eight years ago to become an architect. He was a Bachelor of Applied Science in Environmental Design from the University of Canberra, and was undergoing studies in the nation's capital when the first signs of his mental illness appeared in July last year. What started as a sense that other students did not like him developed into paranoia that secret cameras had been installed in his room and that others including police were out to get him. In early December, he called his cousin Sugule in distress after a university counsellor said there was nothing wrong with him. "He said 'do you love me?' " Sugule said. "I said yes. He said 'come and get me now'." Mr Mohamed moved into a flat at Riverwood with Sugule, Sugule's wife and their seven-month-old son. His mental condition continued to deteriorate until last weekend, when he first said he intended killing himself. "Last Sunday morning he said to me 'Sugule, life is not worth living and I'm going to end it. People are staring at me. People are after me. Everybody is after me. Even the police are after me. I can't take it any more. I will finish it up.' " On Monday, Sugule took his cousin to a local GP, who quickly diagnosed Awale as suffering schizophrenia and prescribed Zyprexa Olanzapine - a drug used to treat schizophrenia and acute bipolar mania. She wrote an urgent referral to a psychiatrist, but the cousins were told Awale could not get a consultation for up to six weeks. Sugule's brother went to see the GP, who called the psychiatrist herself. The psychiatrist's secretary said he was busy but would call back. "They still haven't called us back and Awale is in the morgue." At 5pm, Sugule's wife called the mental health service at St George Hospital. A nurse said that Awale could not be seen until Tuesday afternoon, but to take him to the hospital's emergency department if his condition deteriorated rapidly. The hospital called on Tuesday and confirmed a 2pm appointment. When Sugule arrived with his cousin a nurse began his assessment in a waiting room. "He said to me 'He's getting some psychotic episodes. I don't know what's wrong with him but he's getting some sort of psychotic episodes.' "I said: 'Well mate, I think we need more than a nurse here. With all due respect, we need to see a doctor.' "I said: 'This guy is going to kill himself. He could harm me. He could harm my wife.' " The nurse said Awale had no "plan" to kill himself and told the Mohameds to go home. "Awale had a plan," Sugule said. "And he harmed somebody in the process, didn't he?" Awale spent Tuesday night at his uncle's home and had lunch with Sugule and his family early Wednesday afternoon. About 2.30pm he left the flat saying he was getting cigarettes. Sugule has not been told what happened in the next half an hour, and knows only what he has seen on the television news - that Awale stabbed a man in Belmore Road and was shot dead by police. The assessment of Mr Mohamed will be the subject of an independent review. The acting director of mental health for South East Health, Russell Firmin, said the decision to send him home was endorsed by a medical registrar and a consultant psychiatrist. "This was a tragic event for the family and friends of all concerned," Mr Firmin said. ---Qurbow ballo ha ku degto, soo maaha?

Assl All Wr Wb Walaalayaashiis, i saxa haddii aan qaldanahay, laakiin amay qoftan qoraaga ahi xiganaysaa wax dhacay waqtigii rasuulka........? Si fiican uma xasuusto laakiin waxaa jirtay dumar ay kusoo baxeen (Ma Rasuulkuu ahaa SCW amba qaar ka mid ah asxaabta...ma aqaan), waxaan umalaynayaa inay dhowr dumar ahaayeen, ay mid walbaana meel gacmaha saartay, in wax laga weydiiyeyna waan u malayn Rasuulka..........Bal baara. Laakiin fadlan ha isoo xiganina....! F.G. Yaanaan isku qaldamin hadaba, waa un aragti oo kaliya cidna ma taageerayo.

Assl All Wr Wb Please stop this childish ‘you said, she said’ crap and either get with the topic or meel kale isku qabsada - Honestly! --Sax. Ordoo heedhe meel kale isku qabsada oo gabadha saligay dhigatay ciida uga dhaafa! Bismillaah.

Assl All. Wr Wb and yes I can identify a Somali from miles away; Any chance he was wearing one those baggy trousers?

Assl All Wr Wb Currently studying at the University of Life. Majoring Qurbe and minoring 'how to make it safe and sound'. P.S. I must b the only one, then.

Ma akhrin qodobkan ee maadaama aan ku arkay Jihadunspun.com (bog aad u wacan) ayaan is iri waa u qalmaa inaad la wadaagto 'reer guuraagii'. ============================================ Rationale for American hegemony: by Michael Meacher. Massive attention has now been given - and rightly so - to the reasons why Britain went to war against Iraq. But far too little attention has focused on why the US went to war, and that throws light on British motives too. The conventional explanation is that after the Twin Towers were hit, retaliation against al-Qaida bases in Afghanistan was a natural first step in launching a global war against terrorism. Then, because Saddam Hussein was alleged by the US and UK governments to retain weapons of mass destruction, the war could be extended to Iraq as well. However this theory does not fit all the facts. The truth may be a great deal murkier. We now know that a blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defense secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank, Project for the New American Century (PNAC). The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says "while the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein." The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document attributed to Wolfowitz and Libby which said the US must "discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role". It refers to key allies such as the UK as "the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership". It describes peacekeeping missions as "demanding American political leadership rather than that of the UN". It says "even should Saddam pass from the scene", US bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently... as "Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq has". It spotlights China for "regime change", saying "it is time to increase the presence of American forces in SE Asia". The document also calls for the creation of "US space forces" to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent "enemies" using the internet against the US. It also hints that the US may consider developing biological weapons "that can target specific genotypes [and] may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool". Finally - written a year before 9/11 - it pinpoints North Korea, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes, and says their existence justifies the creation of a "worldwide command and control system". This is a blueprint for US world domination. But before it is dismissed as an agenda for rightwing fantasists, it is clear it provides a much better explanation of what actually happened before, during and after 9/11 than the global war on terrorism thesis. This can be seen in several ways. First, it is clear the US authorities did little or nothing to pre-empt the events of 9/11. It is known that at least 11 countries provided advance warning to the US of the 9/11 attacks. Two senior Mossad experts were sent to Washington in August 2001 to alert the CIA and FBI to a cell of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation (Daily Telegraph, Sep.16 2001). The list they provided included the names of four of the 9/11 hijackers, none of whom was arrested. It had been known as early as 1996 that there were plans to hit Washington targets with airplanes. Then in 1999 a US national intelligence council report noted that "al-Qaida suicide bombers could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the CIA, or the White House". Fifteen of the 9/11 hijackers obtained their visas in Saudi Arabia. Michael Springman, the former head of the American visa bureau in Jeddah, has stated that since 1987 the CIA had been illicitly issuing visas to unqualified applicants from the Middle East and bringing them to the US for training in terrorism for the Afghan war in collaboration with Bin Laden (BBC, November 6 2001). It seems this operation continued after the Afghan war for other purposes. It is also reported that five of the hijackers received training at secure US military installations in the 1990s (Newsweek, September 15 2001). Instructive leads prior to 9/11 were not followed up. French Moroccan flight student Zacarias Moussaoui (now thought to be the 20th hijacker) was arrested in August 2001 after an instructor reported he showed a suspicious interest in learning how to steer large airliners. When US agents learned from French intelligence he had radical Islamist ties, they sought a warrant to search his computer, which contained clues to the September 11 mission (Times, November 3 2001). But they were turned down by the FBI. One agent wrote, a month before 9/11, that Moussaoui might be planning to crash into the Twin Towers (Newsweek, May 20 2002). All of this makes it all the more astonishing - on the war on terrorism perspective - that there was such slow reaction on September 11 itself. The first hijacking was suspected at not later than 8.20am, and the last hijacked aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania at 10.06am. Not a single fighter plane was scrambled to investigate from the US Andrews Air Force base, just 10 miles from Washington DC, until after the third plane had hit the Pentagon at 9.38 am. Why not? There were standard FAA intercept procedures for hijacked aircraft before 9/11. Between September 2000 and June 2001 the US military launched fighter aircraft on 67 occasions to chase suspicious aircraft (AP, August 13 2002). It is a US legal requirement that once an aircraft has moved significantly off its flight plan, fighter planes are sent up to investigate. Was this inaction simply the result of key people disregarding, or being ignorant of, the evidence? Or could US air security operations have been deliberately stood down on September 11? If so, why, and on whose authority? The former US federal crimes prosecutor, John Loftus, has said: "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defense of incompetence." Nor is the US response after 9/11 any better. No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr Bin Laden was captured". The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that "the goal has never been to get Bin Laden" (AP, April 5 2002). The whistleblowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US air force complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism. The catalogue of evidence does, however, fall into place when set against the PNAC blueprint. From this it seems that the so-called "war on terrorism" is being used largely as bogus cover for achieving wider US strategic geopolitical objectives. Indeed Tony Blair himself hinted at this when he said to the Commons liaison committee: "To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11" (Times, July 17 2002). Similarly Rumsfeld was so determined to obtain a rationale for an attack on Iraq that on 10 separate occasions he asked the CIA to find evidence linking Iraq to 9/11; the CIA repeatedly came back empty-handed (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). In fact, 9/11 offered an extremely convenient pretext to put the PNAC plan into action. The evidence again is quite clear that plans for military action against Afghanistan and Iraq were in hand well before 9/11. A report prepared for the US government from the Baker Institute of Public Policy stated in April 2001 that "the US remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma. Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to... the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East". Submitted to Vice-President Cheney's energy task group, the report recommended that because this was an unacceptable risk to the US, "military intervention" was necessary (Sunday Herald, October 6 2002). Similar evidence exists in regard to Afghanistan. The BBC reported (September 18 2001) that Niaz Niak, a former Pakistan foreign secretary, was told by senior American officials at a meeting in Berlin in mid-July 2001 that "military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October". Until July 2001 the US government saw the Taliban regime as a source of stability in Central Asia that would enable the construction of hydrocarbon pipelines from the oil and gas fields in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to the Indian Ocean. But, confronted with the Taliban's refusal to accept US conditions, the US representatives told them "either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs" (Inter Press Service, November 15 2001). Given this background, it is not surprising that some have seen the US failure to avert the 9/11 attacks as creating an invaluable pretext for attacking Afghanistan in a war that had clearly already been well planned in advance. There is a possible precedent for this. The US national archives reveal that President Roosevelt used exactly this approach in relation to Pearl Harbor on December 7 1941. Some advance warning of the attacks was received, but the information never reached the US fleet. The ensuing national outrage persuaded a reluctant US public to join the second world war. Similarly the PNAC blueprint of September 2000 states that the process of transforming the US into "tomorrow's dominant force" is likely to be a long one in the absence of "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor". The 9/11 attacks allowed the US to press the "go" button for a strategy in accordance with the PNAC agenda which it would otherwise have been politically impossible to implement. The overriding motivation for this political smokescreen is that the US and the UK are beginning to run out of secure hydrocarbon energy supplies. By 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the world's oil production and, even more importantly, 95% of remaining global oil export capacity. As demand is increasing, so supply is decreasing, continually since the 1960s. This is leading to increasing dependence on foreign oil supplies for both the US and the UK. The US, which in 1990 produced domestically 57% of its total energy demand, is predicted to produce only 39% of its needs by 2010. A DTI minister has admitted that the UK could be facing "severe" gas shortages by 2005. The UK government has confirmed that 70% of our electricity will come from gas by 2020, and 90% of that will be imported. In that context it should be noted that Iraq has 110 trillion cubic feet of gas reserves in addition to its oil. A report from the commission on America's national interests in July 2000 noted that the most promising new source of world supplies was the Caspian region, and this would relieve US dependence on Saudi Arabia. To diversify supply routes from the Caspian, one pipeline would run westward via Azerbaijan and Georgia to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. Another would extend eastwards through Afghanistan and Pakistan and terminate near the Indian border. This would rescue Enron's beleaguered power plant at Dabhol on India's west coast, in which Enron had sunk $3bn investment and whose economic survival was dependent on access to cheap gas. Nor has the UK been disinterested in this scramble for the remaining world supplies of hydrocarbons, and this may partly explain British participation in US military actions. Lord Browne, chief executive of BP, warned Washington not to carve up Iraq for its own oil companies in the aftermath of war (Guardian, October 30 2002). And when a British foreign minister met Gadaffi in his desert tent in August 2002, it was said that "the UK does not want to lose out to other European nations already jostling for advantage when it comes to potentially lucrative oil contracts" with Libya (BBC Online, August 10 2002). The conclusion of all this analysis must surely be that the "global war on terrorism" has the hallmarks of a political myth propagated to pave the way for a wholly different agenda - the US goal of world hegemony, built around securing by force command over the oil supplies required to drive the whole project. Is collusion in this myth and junior participation in this project really a proper aspiration for British foreign policy? If there was ever need to justify a more objective British stance, driven by our own independent goals, this whole depressing saga surely provides all the evidence needed for a radical change of course.

*** All Wr Wb. This response suits the bigot by a sister: =============================================== Anti-Islamic Extremists and Fanatics Jan 13, 2004 By Yamin Zakaria The Americans have Daniel Pipe, the Dutch had Pim Fortuyn, the French have Brigit Bardot, the Italians have Oriana Fallaci, and the British have Robert Kilroy-Silk. They are all anti-Islamic bigots, zealots, extremists and fanatics, driven by their intense hatred and racism. The words of such people have contributed towards the legitimisation of the violence inflicted in place like Iraq. Furthermore, it encourages brutality amongst their soldiers, no surprise to hear the incident of an Iraqi prisoner viciously kicked to death. One can only imagine, all the other cases that do not get reported. Torture and execution has become routine in the prisons of Guantanamo Bay, Bagram and Abu Gharib. Such events resonate the era of Hitler and Mussolini. So there is a pattern, any nation fuelled by fanaticism, racism, bigotry and extremism will inevitably inflict violence and commit genocide upon other nations. One of the earliest examples is the medieval crusade. Richard, the homosexual barbarian needlessly slaughtered thousands of Muslim prisoners, including women and children. Prior to which, the fanatical crusaders engaged in cannibalism. Why not? Since these Christian terrorists were eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood on a daily basis. The chivalrous, upright and magnanimous Salahhuddin Ayubi on recapturing Palestine did not allow such treatment of the Christian prisoners and communities in retaliation. This is an example of real “tolerance”! Even today, one can witness these Christian communities in the Fertile Crescent. Then came the era of colonisation by the new ‘enlightened’ secular Europe. Nations were enslaved and exterminated. Aztecs, Incas, Mayas, Native Americans, Africa and the Aborigines of Australia are just few examples, and such events have no parallels in Islamic history. In the mid 20th century the fanaticism and extremism manifested in the rise of Fascism and Nazism in ‘civilised’ Europe. In a continuation of this legacy, we have the current Capitalist-Zionist-Christian axis waging new wave of brutal colonisation and subjugation. In between, Uncle Sam pillaged Vietnam, Korea, Central and South America. Whatever the newspaper columnist Kilroy-Silk ‘thinks’ or writes, gas chambers, Nuclear weapons, cluster bombs, Agent Orange, Inquisition, Fascism and Nazism are all European inventions, has no root or connection with the Islamic civilisation. Ask a simple question, who are largest producers of these weapons, and then profit handsomely from its sale? Kilroy-Silk is right, all the Arab countries together export less then Finland and therefore could not achieve this. Scholarly discourse between civilisations can bring fruitful result in building tolerance and mutual respect. As an example, the era of the Islamic rule in Spain. There was no Islamic Inquisition or the ritual burning of Jews and witches. Making vitriolic statements against the Islam without having the courage or the intellect to debate the subject with its proponents is not discourse, nor does it comply with the values espoused by the advocates of free society. Rather, it indicates cowardice and implicit admission of intellectual defeat. What, makes these people anti-Islamic fanatics, is simply the lack of substantiation and rationality behind their opinions. If anyone else expressed such malicious diatribe against any other community there would have been instant restraint and gagging. If the perpetrator is a Muslim, one can by pass everything and, in Guantanamo Bay style imprison him/her indefinitely in a cage, without legal representation or charge, then wave the flag of human rights over his/her head. Not for the first time, Robert Kilroy-Silk has made such a venomous attack. Which has exceeded well beyond the standard of the normal quota of anti-Islamic diatribe reserved for the Muslims. His one-dimensional view of the Islamic world as inherently evil, versus the angelic Anglo-Saxon civilisation that can do no wrong, makes the likes of George Bush, and General William Boynkin geniuses. He addressed the Arabs/Muslims in the most disparaging manner. Has he ever read the Arab history and comprehend the factors, that has shaped the current situation? Unlikely, for a start, he thinks Iran is an Arab country! None of the leadership in the Arab countries reflects the will of its people. The British, the French and the US employs the services of these Bedouin Arab ‘kings’ and despots, now includes the schizophrenic clown of Libya. The last time the Arab masses expressed their voices in desiring a representative government was in Algeria. The elections were suspended. There was no outcry for democracy from the West! If the government produced is not desirable, then suppress it or just conveniently label it as a dictator, despite popular support. Kilroy-Silk describes the war on Iraq as ‘liberation’, even though the legal pretext was finding WMD, which is conveniently avoided. If Iraq has been liberated, why is it that, Blair and Bush always addresses their soldiers in a secure military barrack, rather than the cheering crowds in the streets of Baghdad or Basra or Mosul? Did the Iraqis ask for their liberation by the bombs and bullets of the coalition forces? If so, where are they? Frankly, it is imperial arrogance for Blair and Bush to claim, as white vigilantes to know what is best for the Iraqis, even though, they neither represent them nor have they sought their opinion prior to invading their country. He fervently taints 9/11 as if it is the beginning of human history, prior to which no society experienced such destruction. What about the atrocities that have been committed in the name of 9/11, which exceeds far greater then 3000? They are faceless, nameless, and a figure that no one is interested in, be it 30,000 or 40,000. It does not touch the conscience of the likes of Kilroy-Silk. Besides, the victims in the in the streets of Baghdad or Kabul had absolutely no connection with the architects of 9/11. The 9/11 was not an unprovoked first strike but a retaliatory strike in response to the ongoing slaughter in Iraq and Palestine, assuming that Muslims were behind it. Muslims and non-Muslims around the world, including large section of the masses in Europe took the view that “America got what it deserves” and it was due. So, why is Kilroy-Silk shocked to see those Muslims celebrating seeing dead Americans, as many non-Muslims were also celebrating in Europe and around the world? If I were the father of Muhammad Durra (father of the 12 year old Palestinian child shot dead captured on TV) that is exactly how I would feel. Why does he expect those Muslims to feel love rather then hate for the US, after the last 50 years of oppression and subjugation in their own lands? Only a person with an irrational and a sick mind can make such proposition. Kilroy-Silk refers to the suicide bombings as if it is a recent invention of the Muslims. They are sacrificing their lives to defend their lands. They are the occupied and not the occupiers. They are the oppressed and not the oppressors. Kilroy-Silk’s paradigm is that, the West is engaged in ‘defensive’ war, with countries that are in distant lands. Hence, the dropping of Daisy cutters, Cluster bomb, and cruise missiles does not constitute terrorism, can be excused, even though it leads to terrorising the entire nation? But any form of retaliation is simply terrorism. How convenient. He rants about Saddam using chemical and Biological weapons, again conveniently ignores that it was his proud ancestor, Winston Churchill, who started the tradition of gassing in Iraq. Even then, can one seriously propose that the West were entirely innocent about the production, deployment, and usage of those weapons under Saddam? These types of weapons primarily exists in the US, Europe and Israel. No doubt, under the Kilroy ‘principle’ this is the sole prerogative of the civilised West. Kilroy-Silk, calls Iran, Libya, and Syria vile regimes, not that I am a supporter of these regimes but if they are, why? Is it simply because Bush has labelled Iran as part of an axis of evil? I cannot think what these governments have done that is worse then the conduct and track record of the British and the American government. On the subject of Economics, he refers to the American benevolence of American ‘aid’ to the Muslim countries. Really? Capitalist nation are charitable institutions? Excuse my ignorance. I thought economic ‘aid’ was fat loan with fat interests. What good is aid when there is ever-rising debt, resulting in the net flow of wealth from the poor to the rich (West)? This is no different from the televised charity donations to relieve guilt, after impoverishing the poor countries through the interests and loans. He gloats about the asylum seekers arriving from the Islamic countries to the UK. The Muslims would not be arriving in the West, had it not been for the colonisation (economic and military), and the constant interference by imposing dictators and despots. On the issue of asylum and persecution, the Islamic societies also provided sanctuary to those persecuted in Europe during medieval times. He also forgets, how his forefathers persecuted and brutalised the Irish community for centuries. Which is easily comparable to the Nazi persecution of the Jews. Mr Kilroy criticises the Islamic penal code with a chauvinistic undertone. Why is his harsh criticism reserved for the Muslims when the US also employs capital punishment and the majority of the British public are in favour of reintroducing it? The notion of capital punishment is not an Islamic invention. It also exists in abundance within the Judeo-Christian traditions. Then the usual reference to Islam oppressing women, but yet Islam continues attract women from the West in droves, despite the intensity of the anti-Islamic propaganda. If Mr Kilroy-Silk is convinced about his assertion, then why does he not try to rescue the likes of the British journalist, Yvonne Ridley, who embraced Islam after being released from the captivity of the Taliban? He vilifies the ritual Islamic slaughtering, yet he is silent on the identical process used by the Jews. Why the selective targeting of Muslims? This is clear evidence of a prejudiced mind. He then further demonstrates his arrogance, ignorance and racism, by claming that the Arabs made no contribution towards human civilisation. “After all, the Arab countries are not exactly shining examples of civilisation, are they? Few of them make much contribution to the welfare of the rest of the world. Indeed, apart from oil - which was discovered, is produced and is paid for by the West - what do they contribute? “ I thought Mesopotamia (Iraq) was the foundation of human civilisation. Any individual with a rudimentary knowledge of history, science, medicine, astronomy and mathematics would have appreciated the role played by Islamic civilisation in contributing towards the European renaissance. He should at the least visit the various museums in London to get bit of education about the Islamic civilisation, which may help to curb his arrogant and racist views. The mentality of Kilroy-Silk is no different from the common racist and illiterate football hooligans. His recent outburst, devoid of any rational or intellectual basis is an evidence of this. In fact, even Nick Griffin of the BNP (British National Party) would have expressed a more objective view about the Muslims/Arabs. Therefore, no surprise, that Kilroy-Silk did not comment on the illiterate British football hooligans in Iraq that viciously kicked a prisoner to death. Again Kilroy-Silk should take note, such examples are a manifestation of racism, intolerance, and cowardice. Kilroy-Silk, most likely represents the like-minded minority of right wing racists. The vast majority of the British public are noble and fair-minded, thus, they came out to protest against the unjust war on Iraq. Indeed, the entire world faces real danger from these ant-Islamic fanatics, and extremists, whether they are in the mass media, entertainment or shady figures behind governments like the Neo-Cons.

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