Actually, it was 7,000 words for ladies and 2,000 words for the men per day. It has nothing to do with men not understanding women. You've distorted the facts to suit your own conclusion. macsalaama.

I like the course codes. they seem like real ones. Remember, english lang has its own heritage, and until recently women were the property of men, so no wonder that their problems start with MEN and GUY and HIS....lol.Good analysis. I am still laughing! More western than Maali, tho.

I would say 'they are better be left the way they are'. Remember, the Rasool's (SCW) hadeeth, "....if you try to straighten, they will be broken...". Verdict, LIVE and let live. Personally, i think we are both humans, but inside our thought processes are completely different. That is why we don't seem to understand each other at times. In addition, women are good somethings, and men are good on others, and we need each other for the sake of humanity. So, stop complaining and face the challenge, that is women. P.S. No offense.

Azz/All By the end of this century, 90% of the world's languages could become extinct. That is a huge number. What they have also found is that the knowledge, customs and cultures embedded in these languages will also die with them.So are the valuable info handed down over generations in world of mouth. What is going to replace these lost languages, customs and cultures etc., are the languages and the cutoms of the colonial masters, i.e., European ones. In view of the above, can't you already see that in our own society the transformation that we have gone through in 15 years. This very site is a very good example that the above conclusion is somewhat right. I think, it is never too late to turn the tide. Let's reverse the course and go against the wave.

Azz All Wr Wb to you all. I thought i should share this article with you. The least benefit of it, i think, would be a very interesting read. You may ask why do i say that? Look at the title of the article. "intellectual proof of islam". it is only fair that you ask yourself, why do i need 'proof of islam', i am a muslim, and i know that Islam is Xaq. Correct, but it philosophises the argument in anyone's point of view. be it muslim or non-muslim. Just read....walaalayaal. Intellectual proof of Islam I apologise for non-sense foreword.

There was this brother who was praying for the first time at the mosque. He understood the arabic language, thus he understood the meaning of the words when recited in Arabic. But we all understand that there is more background knowledge to the Qur'an, then the surface meaning of the arabic words it is written. The brother went into the mosque, and lined up in the first line of the Salaat-Jamaaca. The Imam usually starts to recite the glorious Qur'an...until it has come to this Ayat....ALLAM NUHLIKIL AWALEEN (which means literally 'We've punished those in the front, in his case meaning those in the first line). So he hears the Ayat and moves back to join the last row. After he joined the last row, the second line of the verse goes: THUMA NUTBICU HUMUL AAKHARIIN (which means and those after will join them, in his case the back row). So the brother quits the prayer thinking that no place is safe from wrath of Allah. Hope that you get the punch line in the joke, if not, leave a comment. P.S. No jokes on the Ayatu-Laah intended.

Soomaalidu waxay tiraa: "Hadalow ninnna si kuu yiri, ninna sii kuu qaaday" This geezer was communicating to his wife back in wherever, and this lady got the wrong message. Life ain't nothing, but a bi*ch. Which reminds me of a another funny story, which I will post in a minute. Ramadan kareem.

Asalaama Calaykum all and Ramadan Kareem. What is with the Kacaan? I see, and keep my mouth shut....Cos this man doesn't wanna be the first victim of the Kacaan...hahah! Hey, Mutakallim, what does this mean? "summum bonum of life." Understood the "of life" bit, but never got the hang of "summum bonum". Sounds an insult....I'm already getting angry. Ramadan kareem all. P.S. I stand up and take my hat off for Nuune, J11, etc for keeping this place alive, entertaining and intellectual. Good job, boys/girls.

I think you have all been giving a generic explanation of what ladies fall for. Some true, some fantasy-like. But the fact of life is, there is no a textbook answer to this. Every lady is an individual, and thus has her own particular tastes in the opp sex. So, commonsense tells me that the ingredients that make two people to finally tie the knot are: (listen carefully, i'm about to share a secret with you!...lol) 1. Destiny....If it was to be it will be, no matter what (Guess, none of us can do nothing about this). 2. Follow the common etiquetes, i.e., showing respect, love, honesty, care, trust, sense-of-belonging, sense-of-humour, sharing of your accounts etc. oh, I forgot this, PATIENCE! Show patience with the ladies, guys, it is important. I am sure that if it is in your destiny and you show the above and few others qualities out there, you will definitely get somewhere, with Allah's blessing. Important note. The two people must be willing participants in the relationship before anything else. If that aint the case, only destiny can turn the course. How many times have you heard a lady say; 'I never thought i would end up with X for a second, and now there you go'. Destiny has taken its course. Too much talking. sorry if i bore you. P.S. Kheyr, of all people, i wasn't expecting those remarks from you ( Guys that are in demand ). I admired you for your comments and religious views. Guess, you have been human. I'll forget that.

Salaam all. It was about time that someone dropped that question and i am happy that it did happen. I am not going to respond to the questions posed by J11, but I am gonna say one thing, and that is, this place needs some sort of standard, and we, the users (young or old) need to uphold that or else it going to go down the same route as Somalinet forums. We dont have to necessarily create threads of insult and vulgar language for this forum to turn into Somalinet-like, as it won't happen (thanks to the people who run the place), but if we dont think about our responses and threads we create, it will become worthless and boring. I, for one, come to this place to share ideas and read others'. It is the best place to stay in touch with your folks all over the planet. I see it as a social meeting point. Final words, let's not ruin it, walaalayaal. J11, thanks for bringing this up.

Salaam y'all. This reminds me of a guy who witnessed the birth of his first child. It has been quoted that his only words to the lady during the process was....IF I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA BE THE CASE, I WOULDN'T HAVE BOTHERED........ Btw, Islam comes before everything else. What does Islam say about this. Is it permissible for the husband to be there or not? If Islam allows me to, I would, if not, unless it is really necessary, I wouldn't. Full stop.

Salaam all. Well said, Liban, Dawaco & co. What amazed me was when he tried to interview the Paki boys at Birmingham and couldn't even conduct a proper convo with hostile youths and left effing and angry, alot about their attitude towards life. Even more amazing was his weak alibis for the laziness of the Afro-Carribean community (not all tho), saying that Asians end up having heart attacks because of hard work! what a laughable excuse. The sikh Asian guy prides his success thru hardwork, and here is a black Afro-Carribean looking for sympathy. What was also evident in that programme was the lack of representation of a somali voice. Dont know whether he didnt bother to search, even tho, he said he did. But we're so bad in representing ourselves 'cos of our social divisions. Wallaahi, I can say I'm proud to be somali, even tho, we have our own weaknesses, mainly our failure to get our home back on its feet again, but we're hardworkers and we will get where the Asians have and beyond! IT'S ONLY BEEN A DECADE! The only people that are failing our society are the wanna-be youth, but I hope in time they will turn true somalis and get their acts together. All in all, that programme was crap and I'm on my way to C4's site to have my word. Please do show your disgust and discomfort of how they talked about us.

Salaam, Good to see you, fella. Got your point. Don't you worry about the somali biz tho. They will get there. There are businesses trying very hard to improve the image and the service, even tho, they're very few.

Salaam, correction! Nin isfaansha ayaa layiri, waa ri is nuugtay.. lately, i been into nomad literature!! but this mah maah doesnot hold water!! its oxymoranic!! a ri cant do that, we know!! so...! Count yourself corrected, matie. Ri' (that's the correct somali writing, apostrophe after the 'i') CAN do that. To explain it further, haven't ever seen a ri' with a top-cut metal or plastic can on its neck? that is to prevent it from sucking her boobs. Got it? Good. Now what next!

Salaam to all, Baahsi,a correction. Macawis iyo 'siping your tea/coffee at sturbacks' don't go together. Simple of western capitalism and somali tradition....sharka-cawdi-billah. Should have been more like siping your tea/coffee at the local somali cafeteria and having a friendly and loud convo with your fellas. as graphic as that!lol. Btw, i'm really glad someone brought up this topic. Why? I will tell you. We're living in a very strange times, to say the least and we, as muslims, are living within a society that knows no boundaries. Having said that, the dress code during the summer is really MAD. And these days, girls/women are blurring the borders of decency by dressing increadibly tasteless ways, at least to me (most of the times!). What i'm aiming at is the craze of showing your thong/knickers on your back, and sometimes your a*se crack. You would say that aint for somalis or muslim girls a way to dress, but I witnessed and funnily enuff, i wasn't taken aback. I looked once (i assure you!) and away. Just the thought of that girl being a fellow somali passed thru my mind for a few seconds. Nothing else. My question is....Has this way of dressing become acceptable or are we experiencing a change, subconciously? What I need to add here is that I saw a gent, a middle-aged somali man, whom the young lady was speaking to dressed in such a way. I thought to myself, could that be her father, a close relative? And why wouldn't he want to do something about the situation? Why is he blissfully speaking to her dressed in such a manner? And the thought went away. May be because we have changed beyond Somali-ness! Guess it is LIFE IN THE QURBE-ha.

Damn, the man is talking to his community frankly and without holding back his feelings. It is true that the black community, whether they are in US or here in UK they're living in illusory life of bling bling, when they're claiming gov't benefit. So what is wrong with saying 'you are all crap, get off your ar$es and do something about it?' I say nothing. I also hear that he once said, the Klu Klan Klux (the white supremist group) dont have to do anything, the blacks are doing it for them thru drugs and daily killings. To support Cosby's point, there has recently been a research conducted in the US into the black youth and their behaviours. Unsurprisingly, they found out that the average black boy in the ghettos see Hip Hop and RnB singers as his role model, but not anyone who is into schooling or doing business. That is how bad it is. I think it is something that should have been brought to light by the black people a long time ago. P.S. I feel sorry for the Faraxs who trapped in this scenario with the baggy trousers and these days wearing earings. They've come from Gaajo and now look at them! I'm afraid these don't have a Cosby.

i dont know what the fuss is all about! This guy's visit captured the whole of London Media, TV and Radio. As far as I hear, this guy is a moderate, whatever that means, and his only thing the jews are on about that he sees the suicide as a means of fighting against an enemy and not a mass murdering. Damn it, what if it was one those radical 'proper' muslim Sheikhs, what would the jews do? I wonder. I also hear that he is involved in some EU fatwa and research council! How ridiculous! And they're complaining about him. I hate Sheikhs that don't tell Islam as it is, but I am in no position to cast my view on this one, but I still doubt him...Allaahu Aclam.

Michael Moore is an honest guys, or at least he seems honest. He represents a diff picture of America and is doing his bit to get rid off Dubya. i've read his book ****** White Men and currently reading his second 'Dude, where's my country'. I dont entirely support all of his views, but he tells as it is. He seems to see things in black and white, and that is why many like him. I hope that he gets more money to expose the US Admin whenever they're up to no good. I am also hearing that his documentary (F/9/11) is the first to be released in China. Good money, eh? Good luck to Moore. Simple man, yet so effective that they prevent his doc to a nationwide exposure! An example to all people, ONE MAN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

A$$alama Allaikum. Why dont we put it as it is. Somalis talk a lot and they spread the bad of their fellow somalis when they see them behaving bad. These girls do not need to be blamed the ills of our society. After all, we'are secret society. Society whose ill-pride got them to the low of the lowest. It is a blow-back sort of scenario, with the Farax's. A somali guy talks to a sister, as she is female, she falls for him, and the next day whenever he does whatever he did, he is out there posting about it, so tell me, don't these girls deserve to behave the way they're doing and say NO to these sort of fellas? I think that this problem is as much as they geezers doing as it is girls'. P.S. Somali girls are friendly and sisterly, but all you need is smile and show a face she can trust when you approaching, otherwise she won't respond to you. Just a little advice.

@NGONGE That is really good...A true gent's style. I liked the bit about the 'Eesh calaa dhirbaaxo!'. It's psychology....the old somali saying goes.."Cadowgaa waa la isu kala daadshaa yuusan kaa didine!".....Shukaansi is WAR! Salaam.

Salaam to you all. I've been trying to get to this site for the past donkey days and everytime I typed www.somaliaonline.com, i get a blank page with the message: Sorry, we're moving to new servers, please bear with us. However, today, i visited the Satanic site, that is Somalinet, and came across someone asking what the heck is up with Somaliaonline.com, and a brother gave this address, mentioning that they're moving servers. this is the address: http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php, when i tried this i got through. My point is: did they do that deliberately to minimise the number of visitors to the site whilst they're doing the job of moving servers, or are really surfing a virtual site of Somaliaonline.com with a different URL? I'm one unhappy customer, and I deserve an apology, guys! A/a.

Winger, sorry. I heard it right and watched without under no influence. It was Hackman with W. Smith in Enemy of the State. No do you have a prob with that?

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A$$ All I couldn't resist sharing this quote. it is Gene Hackman in Enemy of the State: "He said, I once asked a man, what was the most profitable piece of writing you ever wrote: the guy replied , "A RANSOM NOTE"" ...or something along those lines. Nabad.

A££ All. NGONGE: Ishaad ka rida, waryaa. Iigu celi bo. "Xaraggow xanuun maleh". ....as the brother said, if you can't bear it, then drop it. Hit the bus,train etc, babe. it is far better and sociable + security = less accidents etc. One question though. Do the folks in America know that buying smaller car is more economical and good for the environment? What is with this obsession of everything BIG? ...ignorant US-ers and now the Qaxootis are acting the same. [that was just a joke!] Nabad.