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  1. NGONGE;964717 wrote:
    Not sure why Xiin is getting all worked up there! If this happend in Saudi Arabia or Somalia, I would understand. But in America, GAAL gaal guursaday maaha in oo matag kaa keeno, saaxib. Waaba gaal, he follows different rules.



    NGONGE sometimes is NGONGE. worked up? Matag? Ma afsoomaaligaad igu baranaysaa waryaa ?:D




    You still did not tell me what YOU believe. Why are you so timid awoowe? Homo is a universal thing, it could be found anywhere in the world, it is not a unique western experience. So where do you stand on it?

  2. NN,


    It is homosexuality. You are still dodging my question: what does NN believe with respect to two men marrying to establish a family?


    As far as constitutionality goes, I only brought today's rulings for its obvious political value. it sat a precedent, and it will be very hard to challenge homosexuals on a legal basis; the highest court of this land ruled in their favor.


    When you write "there is a convergence between popular sentiment and logical understanding of the personal freedoms and equality that is inshrined in the constitution", you are speaking like a freshman excited about the liberal arts lectures , if not so I am hard pressed to come up with any convergence between popular sentiment that kept my fellow African Americans captive for hundreds of years and the most elementary understanding of American constitution, personal freedoms and equality. We are talking about a country where segregation was the law of the land as recent as my fathers generation. We are talking about a country which with overwhelming majority viewed black folks as creators that are only good at hard labor and entertainment (read: lack capacity to think)...


    Indeed che is right which history books are you reading ?

  3. Marksman;964651 wrote:
    About 8-10% of the world population is homosexual. I still fail to hear what exactly makes homosexuals a danger to humanity. Because I know a few, both feminine and some even manlier than most straights I know.


    Can someone list why they're a danger to humanity or marriage based on logic and not use religion, sentiments or homophobia?

    Here is a man who knows how to frame an argument. Challenge me along those lines but do not come here with timid responses :D




    I would be honest with you: I cannot DIVORCE my objections/reasoning against institutionalizing homosexual relationships and equating to the traditional family units FROM my beliefs/religious teachings. My values are informed by Islamic religion.

  4. Naxar Nugaaleed;964625 wrote:
    One you confused me, I thought you were saying that you believed in personal freedom of gays like all other people but that you had issue with the institution marriage blah blah. lol, that would have made more sense, but what read now makes less sense. Gay rights is a train that has left the building a long time ago.


    am really not seeing the conflict between individual rights and bedrock values, perhaps am not grasping what you mean by bedrock values. as I take it to mean, individual rights ARE the bedrock values of this country, that none sense in the constitution about inalienable rights! as for the masses and their demands, we live in a country, a democracy where the will of those masses is above all, except where it does not conflict with individual rights. So if the majority of the country decides tomorrow they want mothers and sons (completely wrong analogy btw, relation, no relation.) to marry, you dam* straight you will accept it because that is what people in the country live in want. No about what grown adults do in their homes is no ones business but them and their maker. I have no right to invade your privacy Xiin, because I think eating with your hands morally repugnant. Whats more offensive is the idea that you believe you are entitled to impose your ideas of morality and your own values. FYI I stay clear of words gaalo and calling people ajnabi in their own country lol

    Abviouisly you are playing to the gallery . Man up , and tell me if you believe in the concept of man marrying another man. What DO YOU believe baba? Because if I go by your logic of 'I accept because that is what people in the country believe', then by logical extension if the majority of Americans oppose gay rights tomorrow and the Supreme Courts reservs its rullilngs , you would go along :D :D.


    Majority fo Americans believed at one point that Blacks have no right to vote and whole host of other stuff that defies logic and common sense. Heck, majority of Americans at the hieght of Iraq war believed that Sadam was behind 9/11...come on waryaa and for a moment use your head.


    As for Gaalo, gaalo means in Islamic lingo those who do not believe Allah the way Muslims believe. There is nothing deragotory about the word. Now before you get yourself confused again there is a world of difference between voicing your objections against things you deem contradictory to your values and principles AND impossing your views on others who do not believe in it. So there you have it, good NN. My opposition to gay marriage and homo promotion falls in the first category, not in the 2nd. there are millions of Americans who oppose this gay stuff for various reasons. fulaynima iska daa oo si saani u hadal for gods sake :D

  5. The Zack;964617 wrote:
    Gaaroodi is a coward. He couldn't challenge and debate Xiin on his old nick so he sets up a new one.


    Proof: this nick was created this June of this year but Gaaroodi seems to every SOLers stance on the Somali politics.

    Zack, they come and go :D . It does not surprises me though.


    Kismayo has produced one of the best political plays in contemporary Somali politics; the King is sheltered, the queen is on the move crashing the pawns as she moves but eying the Knights behind Kabsuma bridge :D. That is what got GAROODI script to be abrobtly created.

  6. Tallaabo;964596 wrote:
    It is a proven fact that the biggest homophobes are usually closeted homosexuals themselves:eek:

    Callin xiinfaniin a gay now, are we?


    I think you took discussions in the politics section too far, just like a sister I know in these boards did. That is not healthy waryaa :D

  7. Apophis, thanks for your timely support --today I am in short of support :D . And this of course will solidify our political alliance against the scofflaws of this forum.


    NN, In my few posts (if you are an intent reader) are profound questions: if we go by mere individual rights or the sentiment of the masses how could we ever exist as a society with bedrock values? If tomorrow one million mothers and sons come out demanding the right to marry how could one object their demands on the basis of individual rights, equality and fairness? Better yet , if these mothers and their sons form a powerful political lobby group and use democratic means to achieve their aspirations , would that make it right?


    It is one thing to say : hey xiin these are gaaloos, if you don't like what they do , go and live somewhere else. It is another to intellectualize a clear nonsense and argue the abhorrent acts of grown men F*ng each other and want to get a legal certificate for the sodomy.


    So quoting the GALLUP poll is the stuff a conformist does

  8. Blackflash;964541 wrote:
    That's because most believe that a few abhorrent cases shouldn't be used as justification for denying the rights of many. The precedent for this case was set when laws regarding miscegenation were struck down and much of the arguments in support of the enactments mirrored your own.

    Abhorrent is the notion of sleeping with your own sex , your attempt to defend the act is lame .


    Are you contrarian ?

  9. Faahfaahin Dagaal Khaasare geystey oo kismaayo ka dhacay galabta, iyo sababta keentey dagaalka


    Saaka waabarigii ayaa koox dabley ah oo ka tirsan Maleeshiyaadka Bare Hiiraale waxay dhaceen Gaari uu lahaa Tooshle oo ah Taliyaha Guutada 94aad, saacado ka dib ayaa Maleeshiyo beeleed kale waxay iyana dhaceen Gaari Caasi ah oo markaas Dekada lagasoo dajiyey, intaas ka dib waxay Ciidanka amaanka oo kaashanaya Odoyaasha magaalada ay dajiyeen xiisadii markaas taagneyd.


    Sida uu Puntlandi u xaqiijiyey Sargaal ka tirsan Ciidanka Jubaland weerarka saaka lagu dhacay gaariga Taliyaha wuxuu ahaa mid qorsheysan oo ay ka dambeyaan kooxihii bishaan bilowgeeda magaalada qaska ka kiciyey, Waxayna isla Galabta ay weerar gaadmo ah kusoo qaadeen Dhismaha Radio Kismaayo,waxayna kusoo weerareen qoriga SUU-ga loo yaqaan, halxabo oo qorigaas ah ayay dhismaha kusoo rideen waxaana halkaas ku dhintey hal askari , Raadyuhu wuxuu ku yaalaa bartamaha Magaalada, waxaana markiiba bilaabatey Rasaas kulul, ciidanka amaanka Jubaland ayaana markiiba weerar kala daba tagey Maleeshiyadii Idaacada soo weeraray oo ahaa kuwii saaka wabariga dhacay Gaariga Taliye Xigeenka ciidanka amaanka jubaland isla markaasna ah Taliyaha guutada 94aad, Wuxuuna Dagaalku noqdey mid la eryadey Maleeshiyaadkii soo weeraray Idaacada.


    9 ayaa laga diley Maleeshiyada rabshaaha bilaabay oo u badnaa ilaaladii Bare Hiiraale halka ciidanka amaanka magaalada ay ka dhinteen 2 askari, oo midkood ku dhintey weerarkii Idaacada lagu qaadey oo dagaalku ka bilowdey.

    Maxay tahay sababta ka dambeysa Weerarkaan Qorsheysan ee maanta dhacay.


    Sida laga soo xigtey Maleeshiyaad saaxiib iyo hayb la wadaagaan Qolyaha maanta Weerarka soo qaadey waxay sheegeen in Korneyl Bare Hiiraale uu maalmahaan ka walwalsanaa Ciidan Boolis ah oo lagu tababarayo Garoonkii hore ee ciidamada(Goobweyn) ciidankaasoo ah Ciidan Boolis ah oo loo qorsheynayo iney magaalada amaankeeda la wareegaan, Waxayna ka koobnaan doonaan Laba boqol oo Soomaali ah(200 Askari),100 Kenyan ah iyo 100 Siiraaliyoon ah, shaqadooda ugu wayna waxay noqon doontaa iney magaalada ka xaalufiyaan maleeshiyaadka hubeysan ee aan ciidanka ka Jubaland ka tirsaneyn.


    Gaariga la dhacay ee maanta ayaa ahaa mid daandaansi ah oo rabsho looga kicinayay Magaalada, si looga hortago in Maamulka Jubaland ay ku guuleystaan iney magaalada ka ururiyaan hubka ay wataan Maleeshiyaadka aan taabacsaneyn Maamulka iyo in loo arko magaalada kismaayo mid amaan ka jiro.


    Sargaal ka tirsan Dowlada Jubaland oo Puntlandi la hadleen wuxuu sheegey iney la socdaan dhaqdhaqaaq kasta oo amaanka loogasoo horjeedo, wuxuu kaloo sheegey in Dagaalkii galabta dhacay uusan istaageyn ilaa maleeshiyaadkaas magaalada laga sifeeyo, wuxuuna ka dhawaajiyey in Beri laga yaabo in howlgal xoogan bilowdo, waxaa hadaladiisa kamid ahaa “Waan la soconaa in ay jiraan Dad ka dambeeya weeraradaan kuwasoo doonaya iney u ekeysiiyaan Dagaal beeleed, waxaanse u sheegayaa kuwaas in Amaanka Kismaayo ay dowladu Gacan adag ku qabanayso, dhowaana gacanta lagu dhigayo qoryaha magaalada lagu heysto, ma ahan waxa dhibka wadaa Maleeshiyaadkaan hubka la ordaya,waan ognahay waxaa jira qolyo kale oo aan nabada noo ogoleyn , kuwasaana dabada kasoo riixaya maleeshiyaadka, “


    Iskusoo duuboo Dagaalkii galabta dhacay wuxuu istaagay qorxdu markey dhacdey waxaana ku dhintey 9 maleeshiyadii soo weerartey Radio kismaayo ah iyo labo askari oo ciidanka Jubaland ah, Waxaana Caawa Mgaalada dib usoo Galay Ciidan xoogan oo kamid ah Ciidankii dhowaan magaalada banaankeeda la dajiyey oo ka tirsan Ciidanka Dowlada Jubaland.


    Beri subax waxaa shir jaraa’id qabanaya Madaxweyne ku xigeenka Jubaland Mudane Farataag oo ka warbixinaya khasaaraha Galabta dhacay iyo Xaalka magaalada

  10. Carafaat;964517 wrote:



    The new appointent Ministers are quite divers in terms of tribal background.


    3 new Ministers are from Khatumo


    2 new Ministers are from Makhir


    The conflict between Mothers in the North and the H block in the East is not about power sharing. It is about separatist vs unionist.


    So I am afraid this type of cheap ministerial doll outs wont help