Originally posted by Callypso: Mr. Jibis, you pretty much expressed the same sentiments you ascribe to the Christian Blacks: you would help your co-religionists (the African Muslims) while they would help theirs (the White Christians). Likewise many Somalis feel a greater affinity for their Arab brethren than they do for the Christian Africans. Isn't it a good thing that similarity of values trumps skin color? All things being equal, a Somali has more in common with Blacks than they do with Whites. Remember, you want to compare the Blacks from the deep south with the Whites from the deep south. Those Whites are not only conservative/evangelical Christians, but many still have rather dated opinions about race and foreigners. With respect to Blacks and Somalis, we don't have a choice about throwing in our lot with them. Yes, it is a good thing that religion trumps skin color, and that was the point I was making, is that yes, you are black, but be vary wary of grouping yourselves with them in any other case, because really, skin color is the only thing Somalis have in common with African-Americans. And I wasn't necessarily comparing blacks and whites from the deep south, I was just using the southern black people as an example as to how different some of them are when compared to Somali people, and that yes, religious beliefs, or similarity of values, does trump skin colour. And that was the point I was trying to make, that while you are right that you really have no choice in North America or Europe, people don't differentiate between you and any other Africans, you're all black to them. But in every other case, you should align yourselves with Muslims and no one else. Basically what I mean is be cautious when you are speaking for black people or trying to represent them, because some of those black people are against you, simply because of your religious beliefs. And just one question.......Where do you live that the job applications have a box where you check off what race you are? We don't have that in Canada. Actually by law(I believe), every job application in Canada has to have a copy of the section of the law which states that employers cannot include any questions on an application which may reveal an applicant's skin colour, religion, sexual orientation, and other factors which may lead to discrimination.

Originally posted by Napoleon Bonaparte: So am I...there was a case in Seattle Washington, where police has discovered a sex farm! Men go to their to have sex with animals. "Honey, did I ever tell you I love your eyes? They're so big and beautiful......." "Moo."

Originally posted by Callypso: ^You only need to shave once a month? Shouldn't you see a doctor? I need to shave every 3 or 4 days, but that doesn't mean I actually do it!! That's the point......Men can look good while unshaven, but a woman with hairy legs just looks wrong.

I can understand that for a Somali, it is just as hard any other person of African descent to get a job in the white-controlled "developed world", but just a word of advice......It's not smart to align yourself with other black people just because of your colour. Most African-Americans are decidedly non-Muslim, especially in the dirty South, where they're mostly devout baptists, who seem to be the worst and most prejudiced against muslims. I'm of the opinion that if they had a choice between a black Muslim and a white christian, they'd choose the white christian. I'm sure that I would help my African Muslim brothers and sisters before most African christians would, and the Muslims are the only group in the world I feel proud to associate myself with, because to tell you the truth, not all white people are like me, and not all black people are like you.

Maybe they can't be bothered to make an effort with their children while they're growing up and need help, but after all the work is done and the kid's grown up, they start to get involved in their life because the father knows there's no more responsibility on his part? Or maybe they think kids are annoying and that bringing them up is the mother's job? I dunno, but just guessing.

That's quite the good list...... Originally posted by Callypso: You only have to shave your face and neck. Daily. Try once a month!!

"If I rhyme about home, ain't get descriptive, I'll make 50 Cent look like Limp Bizkit. It's true, and don't make me rhyme about you, I'm from where the kids is addicted to glue."

LOL@Sheherazade.......I know no matter what I say to you, you won't agree with me, and that's fine. But what's the point in trying to paint me as a merciless father who doesn't give a sh*t about his daughter's wishes? Because I didn't mention my daughter in my previous post automatically means that she doesn't have a say? You got some prejudices, from the looks of it, you need to take care of before you take on a proper Islamic debate. If I wasn't concerned with how my kid feels about marriage, then why not just let her get used and abused by the boys in her school, like so many girls that age go through in some desperate attempt to be noticed and accepted by friends and schoolmates? At least they're her age and it's "natural". But the reason for me to accept such a marriage is not just to satisfy the old fart's sexual desires(if he even has any at that age). It's for the sake of Allah SWT, and to provide guidance for her that I cannot give her, after she leaves the house and makes her own life. Yes, a younger man can do that as well, but if it's a man that I have known and trusted for many years, and she accepts(yes, her opinion does matter), then I don't have a problem with it.

Originally posted by sheherazade: Now, biliis, when and how and for whom is it OK? The scenario in which it would work best to me, would be 2 men who were the best of friends such as Muhammad SCW and Abu Bakar were, and someone whom the father of the girl could trust not to harm, or have evil intentions.....Someone who is genuinely interested in looking after his wife, regardless of her situation. You see, when I said I would give my daughter to an old man like that, it doesn't mean any man who comes by and has cilm. He would have to be someone I know and trust, because you are absolutely right, a younger man would be better suited to look after her if he wasn't interested in marrying her for the sake of Allah SWT. Oh, and she would have to be his only wife. So to sum up your "biliis when, how and for whom", When-anytime, I guess.....I really don't understand that part of the question. How-Marriage for the sake of Allah SWT, not just out of attraction for her, he must be very religious and sincere in that he will take care of her through the good times and bad, and teach her the diin. That is the best marriage, no matter what age you are. For whom-Someone that the father has known for a long time and can trust him with his daughter. Is that a good enough answer for you? PS Zephyrine, nice sarcastic remark.

What about if they called it the "Xaliimobile"? Heh? Heh? OK, that was lame, I admit it......

I haven't seen her around for a while(I actually thought with a name like Kool Kat,she was a guy :eek: oops), so it's good to hear she's OK and Alxamdulillah and masha Allah, may Allah make your new child a source of love and easy to take care of and grow to be a good Muslim, amiin.

Originally posted by Castro: ^ I assure both of you it's between the two figures. :cool: So you're either 17 or 60?

Well, at least the '98 version looks a little better...... He's just gotta paint the words on the side of the van......"Xaliimo Magnet"

I'd let my own daughter get married to a man that old if she accepted.......Just as long as he is well-educated in the diin, and a little $$$$ wouldn't hurt either But let's be honest, you think just because Muhammad SCW was a prophet, he's the only one who's worthy of having a young wife? Come on, people, you make it look like only prophets are allowed to do these kinds of things, while us common folk are not worthy. Remember, he was just a human being like you and me, the only difference is the Message he was given from Allah SWT.

Castro is 61 years old? You're an old chicano......

They said it was a 1998 van, not 1978.......

Congrats, Abdullahi. You now have title of "xaliimo-magnet"

Originally posted by Lost_Hope_4_Somalia: “The lawyer believes Germany is the best country in which to file the suit, because it is the "most influential European state" and because the country is directly linked to the case.†What is likely to be Mr. Ahmadinejad's resonse? "Come and get me, biatches!!"

Originally posted by Pucca: quote:Originally posted by Mr. Jibis: 64 yr old marrying 13 yr old- OK only if she's OKAY and AGREES to the marriage ...*really how many 13 yrs olds are really going to willingly marry an old prune?? :rolleyes: not happening* Likely not too many, but let's be honest......Do you really think Aisha RA was the only young girl in history to accept a marriage to a much older man?

Originally posted by Zafir: Mr.Jibis, Did your ancestors own slaves? And what was your approach on blacks prior to Islam? Am only asking cause it’s black history month. I don't know, let me ask them.........They don't wanna answer.

Just a though........is Saudi Arabia safer in terms of less traffic accidents, due to the ban on women driving?

To explain my position clearly, a man has every right to marry a 13 year old girl, but it is not right to dump your wives in the fashion this guy is doing. He is essentially planning a temporary marriage, although he may not think that way every time he marries someone new, he should know by now he'll do the same next time he sees another woman he likes. So in that case...... 64 yr old marrying 13 yr old- OK Marrying 58 times- not OK

Take the job. She's not gonna pay you if you let her keep it, and she's obviously not doing a good enough job if the boss wants to fire her.

LOL Looks like we got some addicted people in here!!

Castro, you gotta check out this video, it'll crack you up!! Office Space meets Superfriends