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Breaking News: Deal between Federal Goverment and Jubbaland

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xiinfaniin;974331 wrote:
Finally! Carafaat and Garoodi, not to mention our USC pals who thought the legacy of 1991 clan wars can be solidified have finally accepted, or rather forced to accept, the reality that is federal Somalia where communities and regional blocks will form the basis for inclusive national ownership of the country.

 

Kismayo was a test case for whether Somalis can move forward or whether the likes of Odey Xaad, and USC remnants continue to plunge the country into further disarray and disunity.

 

This agreement is very simple: accept the political manifestation of the provincial constitution and move the country forward.

 

It goes without saying if Hassan manages to stick to the agreement (he has bad record of sweat talking to his opponents while failing to offer any tangible concessions), he will have managed to stop his political bleeding.

Xiin:

 

The dogs bark, but the federalism caravan passes on...:D

 

The next stop for the federalism caravan is bay/bakool/shabeelaha Hoose!

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GAROODI   

Kn: Waa fursaddii ugu dambeysey oo miis dushiis lagu dhamayn lahaa muranka siyaasadda dowladda Federaalka iyo Jubbaland, waxayne u egtahay in la marayo marxalad aysan sahlanayn in laga gudbo.

 

 

 

Labada dhinac waxbo uma kala qarsana, dhinac kasta waxa uu si buuxda oga dharagsanyahay waxa uu dhinaca kale qabo oo aragti ah, shuruudo ah iyo damaaci siyaasadeedba.

 

Dhexdhexaadiyeyaasha oo iyagu laftoodu ah dowladdo daris ah oo danahooda gaarka ah doonaya in ay heshiiska ka dhex arkaan, ayaa iyagu ku qasban in ay suul iyo faro ku taagtaagsanadaan, iyaga oo dhinac illaalinaya xiriirka dublamaasiyadeed ee ugubka ah ee dowladda caalamku taageerey ee aanan la saadaalin karin meesha ay gaari karto mustaqbalka dhow, iyo waliba illaalinta danahooda gaarka ah iyo waliba iyaga oo aanan dooneynin in ay ka xanaajiyaan ologyadooda siyaasadeed ee Jubbaland.

 

Dowladda waxa ay sheegtey in aysan dooneynin in ay gabi ahaanba ka talaabsato natiijaddii kasoo baxday shirweynihii Kismaayo ka dhacay, balse “caano daatay dabadood baa la qabtaaye” waxay dowladdu dooneysaa in ay kaalin mug ah ku yeelato talaabo kasta oo la qaadayo wixii hadda ka dambeeya.

 

Ma dooneyso wax loogu yeero “maamul goboleedka Jubbaland”, taasi badalkeeda waxay dooneysaa “Maamulka Jubbooyinka iyo Gedo”, kaasi oo jiraya muddo cayiman oo KMG ah.

 

Waana qodobkaasi kan ergada Jubbaland ay si cad u diideen, islamarkaasina Ethiopia oo ah dhexdhexaadiyaha shirka ay ka dabqaadayso.

 

Sida ay KismaayoNews fahamsantahay, Ethiopia waxa ay u sheegtey ergada Jubbaland in aysan fili doonin in wax kasta ay u dhacaan sida ay doonayaan, kuna qasbanyihiin in ay tanaasulaad sameeyaan.

 

Dhanka dowladda waxaa si cad loogu sheegey in uusan fuli karin dhamaan heshiisyadii IGAD iyo wadamada ciidamada ka joogaan dalka ee Jubbooyinka ku saabsan, iyada oo aanan waxbo u ogolaanin maamulka Kismaayo.

 

Wali shirka waa uu socdaa, waxaana la rajaynayaa in lasoo saari doono war saxaafadeed aad looga taxadaray ereybixintiisa, islamarkaasina wax uun lagu heshiiyo.

 

Wixii kasoo kordha dib ayaan kasoo tabin doonnaa haddii alle idmo

 

KismaayoNews.com

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GAROODI   

Hassan ain't stu@id if he signs to this jubaland none sense hag and the rest will have his neck. Why isolate your power base for an Ethiopian stooge who couldn't liberate a village without Kenyan backing. Hell will freeze over before Hassan shieck signs to this none sense. We are waiting for the communique or terms agreed then we will see. The last d block card at play here hahah.

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Somalia   

Apophis;974329 wrote:
Bad news for SNM langaabs. Great news for real Somalis.

But why is it bad news, why are they so invested in the Battle for Jubboyinka? :D It's so surreal.

 

Tillamook;974350 wrote:
^

Garoodi, the term laangaab by definition means "minority", so no need to get your knickers in a twist, mate...
:D

 

The SNM laangaabs my buddy Apophis is referring to, is simply meant to highlight why that grouping is inconsequential in the political machinations of Somalia, while Apophis' group-- who will go unmentioned-- are the majority who decide Somalia's political fate.

Ok, now it makes sense. :cool:

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It appears Hassan like GAROODi predicted could not decide against his USC base , hence the deal failed and the president left for Mogadishu.

 

Ahmed Madoobe and his delegation, with momentum on their back , remain in Adis Ababa meeting with Somali region leadership.

 

The Jubbaland die is cast already , and there is no point of return. This was an opportunity for Hassan to stop his political bleeding. Alas, he could not transcend beyond clannish boundaries surrounding him.

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xiinfaniin;974357 wrote:
It appears Hassan like GAROODi predicted could not decide against his USC base , hence the deal failed and the president left for Mogadishu.

For goodness sake, can't we get positive news that's actually true. From now on I'll assume the worst and discount any good news coming from Somalia(long overdue I know).

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Mafia   

Homunculus;974362 wrote:
For goodness sake, can't we get positive news that's actually true. From now on I'll assume the worst and discount any good news coming from Somalia(long overdue I know).

 

Sad indeed, but I honestly think that from Jubbaland standpoint, this might be actually a good outcome for the following two reasons:

 

1) J/L convinced the international community that Xamar isn't serious about federalism. This will allow them to build out their own break-away government similar to SL and PL where they can implement their own vision without the pressure from international community to work with the Federal government. I'm already being fed that J/L is planning to sever ties with the federal governmental very soon, much to the elation of PL.

 

2) This will lead the current Mogadishu admin to fail, paving the way for a more competent leader to emerge. Somali people win because they will have a leader in place, which we don't have now. J/L wins because by then they will have a greater leverage in somali politics, with the international backing and more mature government structure. So, if you support J/L initiative, this fall out might actually help them a great deal. Remember Britain and Qatar were the backbone of Hassan Sheekh Mohamud, and they are both conspiring against him now. He lost the international backing that he had and he never had enough local support. Politically, he is a dead man walking now

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GAROODI   

Somalia;974356 wrote:
But why is it bad news, why are they so invested in the Battle for Jubboyinka?
:D
It's so surreal.

 

 

 

Ok, now it makes sense. :cool:

Tilamock your lot only think you have relevance however in reality other then talk and bravado nothing substantial. Hag have the capital, the presidency and the majority population in south Somalia. Duriyada have the entire north they are insignificant to Somalia politics because they choose to unlike your lot who inhabit the few desert wastelands between the monoliths. Other then bravado and talk I assure your lot mean little to Somalias situation. You have struggled to stop SOMALILAND and with all your so called influence have managed to achieve nothing substantial in south Somalia.

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GAROODI   

Mafia;974365 wrote:
Sad indeed, but I honestly think that from Jubbaland standpoint, this might be actually a good outcome for the following two reasons:

 

1) J/L convinced the international community that Xamar isn't serious about federalism. This will allow them to build out their own break-away government similar to SL and PL where they can implement their own vision without the pressure from international community to work with the Federal government. I'm already being fed that J/L is planning to sever ties with the federal governmental very soon, much to the elation of PL.

 

2) This will lead the current Mogadishu admin to fail, paving the way for a more competent leader to emerge. Somali people win because they will have a leader in place, which we don't have now. J/L wins because by then they will have a greater leverage in somali politics, with the international backing and more mature government structure. So, if you support J/L initiative, this fall out might actually help them a great deal. Remember Britain and Qatar were the backbone of Hassan Sheekh Mohamud, and they are both conspiring against him now. He lost the international backing that he had and he never had enough local support. Politically, he is a dead man walking now

 

This is all I heard...

 

 

 

This is not about federalism: this is the difference between governance and none at all I.e continued chaos. Hassan shieck is your president: you all say you are Somalians who hail from Somalia. You all have the same flag and took part in the same process. Your president whom you elected says that in order for his government to work he needs revenue to pay the army, police, government institutions etc to return Somalia to normality. His government that you elected and subscribe to requests sovereign control over all airports and ports. Which is the norm in any country. Instead you support th blind ambition of a hungry bearded former Alshabab turned kenyan towel boy who hid behind a Kenyan tank into kismayo. The logic of d block is unbelievable. The only reason why you are against Hassan sheick is because he is hag had it been the other way round you would have agreed. Listen to your president.

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Haatu   

You xaley baan ku riyooday this very scenario. I saw madoobe and culusow sitting side by side smilling and happy. madoobe was smiling and said "awalba anaga iyo dawladda dhib managa dhexeyn heshiskanna waxaan ku aamusiinaynaa nagnagta nimanka SSDF" sidaad doonta u qaado :D :D

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GAROODI   

Xin,

 

Use logic: you have to decide between d block interests or Somalia simple. Many men who choose d block interests there descendents are suffering from the choice today. The reality is puntland was created in 1998 to save what was left of d block interests in Somalia. It's used the SOMALILAND model and injected clan into it. Years later it remains 2.5 regions while SOMALILAND has taken almost full control of British SOMALILAND. Jubaland is not genuine. It is a territory that is mixed and not entirely d block so when you maskerade as "we have held a conference" and alter the puntland flag and still pretend that it has nothing to do wih d block self interest then we know your not entirely telling the whole truth. Jubaland is being attempted as a strategy to give d block two federal states so that can be used against hag to gain more political leverage. Hag is a lot smarter then before they won't fall for that. I don't see Somalia being a federal state it's to small. SOMALILAND is gone. Majority Somalis are happy with centralised state. Jubaland none sense will be shut down as soon as Kenya leaves or the somali government sends in hag.

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Apophis   

Starting to foam at the mouth bro. Don't let ciil brought on by your laangab irrelevanceness give you a heart attack....or do. No one gives a shyt.

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GAROODI,

 

To many of us you represent the pulse of SNM (an important groupings represented by the secessionist madness that is Hargeysa) , but you are overdoing it really, almost losing your marbles (if you have any to begin with).

 

Relax boowe; the Jubbaland political marvel is a notch higher than your 21-year status of political stagnation and dashed hopes of recognition.

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Garoodi confuses wishes with prophecies.

 

Since everybody loves saying 'the reality is', well the facts are, none of us here have any real vested interest in Somalia or whatever tribal land we are from.. So let's wish our people the best. May Allah Somalia and Somalis.

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