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IS Khimar xijab Or Not??

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Salaam Alaykum to u all brothers and sisters.

 

i just wanted to know ur point of view, is khimar xijab or not?????

 

what do u prefer xijaab(jalbaab) or khimar??

 

Wassalaam!

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Sakina   

Wa Alaykum Salaam sis. Khimar and jilbab are hijabs; unfortunately some people are preaching that khimar is not hijab. I prefer khimar and my friend prefers jilbab.

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Cawralo   

There's a unisex hijaab in Islam, that is the most important one. Both men and women are adviced to wear this hijaab. A god advice from our Lord.

 

"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do." [Al-Qur’an 24:30]

Since you are a woman..

 

" And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons..." [Al-Qur’an 24:31]

Those are the most important parts if I'm not wrong. Then there are those of our sisters who wear a niqaab and try to cover their entire bodies. All in coherence with the hadith that says that the female body is awrah (not the voice)(Hadith - Bukhari 1:148 ex.) . These sisters are true mujahedeen, fighting everyday for their islamic right. We should support them and not side with the kaafirs as many of us do on this issue.

 

And som of the khimaar wearing sisters, wear clothes that cover everything but the hands and the face (in coherence with a hadith from RasuluAlah that prohibits a woman to show anyhting but her hand and face to non-mahram men).

 

Please correct me is I'm wrong.

 

YahdiikaAlah :D

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Saalixa   

Golden

Before you wear the hijaab you need to know the meaning and purpose of wearing it. There is no point in wearing a khimar with tight skirts (flairs jeans skirts somali girls love typical that show the shape of your wulaaa) and hibsters . And surely there is no point in wearing the jilbaab when you backbite 24 seven and take a break at the next aroos by revealing all the hair (but i was behind the camera they say ;) ). The hijaab should be your adaab, your clothes and not just the bit that covers the hair but the whole bodyyy. So if you would perfer the scarf, then you must make sure you wear loose shirts and skirts and pants are out of the question...no no dont give me that sigh like it's the end of the world because it ain't. Some girls are soo glued to these days i dunno.

 

so sister there is me thoughts,,,as dry and sull as some may reckon i take the example of Aisha (rda) and remember in the hot climate of medina they wore thick jilbaabs that you wouldn't tell the shape of thier nor who it was,,if it were a man or a women. The longer the hijaab, the bigger the reward ;)

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Then there are those of our sisters
who wear a niqaab and try to cover their entire bodies.
All in coherence with the hadith that says that the female body is awrah (not the voice)(Hadith - Bukhari 1:148 ex.) .
These sisters are true mujahedeen, fighting everyday for their islamic right

nothing more beautiful then a sister in Niqab! ;)

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^^^ you mean nothing more beautiful than a pious woman, cause i assure you once yr married youll say and think otherwise.

 

 

anywhoo, are there any sisters here who wear niqaab here? im accually thinking of going niqaabi, bt im scared i might take it off. see im a recent hijaabi, and i can sense that my will towards the niqaab is just not as strong as the one for my hijaab.

 

rayaana, go easy on the girl. if she wants to wear hijaab congratulate her for the steps shes taking to please allah (swt). the pants thing... yr very right some of us have a compulsion for them so let us ease out of them slowly thank you. thats what im doing anyway. i just need more abayas in my closet.

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Road to Hijab

 

In order to even find the road to hijab, much less walkinng on it,

one must first realize that the hijab of the Muslim woman is not

Arabian, Pakistani, Black or White American, etc. It is the command

of Allah (SWT), the conditions for which have been given in the Quran and Sunnah, in order to provide protection and safety for women. Here

are a few aspects one needs to consider:

 

Intention

 

The first step on the road to hijab is the proper intention (Niyah).

The wearing of the hijab is the compliance to the command of Allah

(SWT), therefore it can be classified as an act of worship. As with

all acts of worship, the fundamental underlying principle is

intention. The hijab must be worn for no other reason except to

comply with the order of Allah (SWT), solely for His (SWT) sake and

seeking His (SWT) Pleasure. If it is not done with this sincere

intention, then it becomes an act of either "Hypocrisy" or of "Ar-

Riyaa (showing off)".

 

If a Muslim woman wears hijab because, for instance, of an

overbearing husband or father, and in her heart she dislikes it, or

feels that it is a form of injustice; then she may very well have

taken an act deserving of reward into one that may not bring about

any reward in the hereafter. If all that Allah (SWT) expected from

our acts of worship were outward manifestations, then He (SWT) would

have graciously accepted the Islam of the hypocrites during the time

of the Prophet (SAW).

 

The same is true for the woman who wears hijab because it's what the

women around her do. She covers from head to toe in black to impress

the people with her piety. When she is abroad, where no one she knows

will see her, save her Lord, she does not wear the proper hijab. She

then falls under the threat of Allah's (SWT) punishment, as the

Prophet (SAW) said,

 

"Whoever does a deed for the people, then Allah (SWT) will give him

to the people."

 

Knowledge Love

The second step on the road to hijab, is knowledge. The great scholar

of Hadith, Imam Bukhari said, "Knowledge must precede both statement

and action."

 

It is of the utmost importance for a woman who is seeking to observe

the proper hijab, to ascertain sure knowlege, based on the Quran,

Sunnah and the understanding of the first generations of Muslims

(Salaf). Unfortunately in this day and age, there are no shortage of

books written on the issue of hijab by both Muslims and non-Muslims

alike that are full of misleading information. It therefore becomes

incumbent on Muslim women to gain sure and correct knowledge on this

topic, in order to be better able in ciphering through the

misinformation that is so predominant on this issue, and getting to

the truth. When hijab is observed with the proper intentions and

based upon sound knowledge, it then becomes a firm conviction in the

heart. Due to this conviction, it becomes less likely that the hijab

will be abandoned; either based upon the weak arguments of would-be

Muslim "scholars," or the everyday pressures of living in a "modern"

society and its false call to women's liberation. For the true desire

of these people is as Allah (SWT) says in the Quran,

 

"Verily ,those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual

intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will

have a painful torment in this world and in the hereafter. And Allah

knows and you know not." (An-Nur 24:19)

 

Love

The third step on the road to hijab is love. It is among the signs of

true belief that all acts of worship are manifested from love of

those actions. The love of the hijab and the haya (inhibition or

bashfulness) of the first generation of Muslim women has slowly been

worn away from the hearts of modern-day Muslim women.

 

Once Ali ibn abi Talib (RA) asked his wife, Fatimah (RA), "What is

the thing most beloved to a believing woman?" Fatimah (RA)

replied, "Not to see or be seen by strange men."

 

What happened to this love of modesty? Unfortunately for many Muslim

women, this love has been replaced with the love of women's

liberation or the love of what has become prevalent in one's culture

or homeland. In order for the love of the hijab to be returned to the

hearts of Muslim women, we must remove from our hearts the disease

that suggests that the hijab makes us inferior to men and restricts

our womanhood. These are whisperings of the Satan calling Muslim

women to abandon their honor, and their status as the best women of

creation. The hijab of the Muslim woman is her right and her honor

ordained by the Lord of the worlds. It is her light that separates

her from the darkness of the disbelieving women. It was narrated that

the Prophet (SAW) said,

 

"The parable of a woman who moves with a slow sweeping motion,

trailing her beautiful clothes, performing not for her husband, is

like darkness on the Day of Judgement, she has no light." (Tirmithi)

 

Awrah

 

The awrah of a woman is the areas of her body, which must be covered.

The respected scholars from past and present have differed in whether

the veil should cover the hands and face, or whether it is sufficient

to cover everything, save the hands and face.

 

Aisha (RA) reported that once her sister, Asma (RA) visited her in

finery while the Prophet (SAW) was at home. He (SAW) turned away

from her and said, "O Asma, when a woman reaches puberty it is not

lawful for her to uncover any part of her body except this." He

(SAW) then pointed to his face and hand palm. (Abu Dawud)

 

The above narration is one of the most commonly cited as proof for

leaving the face and hands uncovered. The main consideration of this

opinion must be what constitutes the face and the hands. The above

statement clearly illustrates that the hand is part of the body,

which extends below the wrist bone.

 

The definition of what constitutes the face can be found in another

tradition of the Prophet (SAW).

 

He (SAW) pointed from his forehead to his chin and from his cheek to

the cheek. (Abu Dawud)

 

It may be of importance to note that ears must also be covered

because they are not a part of the face, but are a part of the head

as he (SAW), said,

 

"The two ears are a part of the head." (Tirmithi)

 

This opinion also does not allow for the uncovering of the neck and

breast. The khimar must cover the entire head, INCLUDING THE EARS,

ALL OF THE HAIR, come down from the head to COVER THE NECK AND THE

BOSOM. This is clear in the statement of Allah (SWT),

 

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at

forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal

sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only

that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes

for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-

cover, apron, etc., and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna

(i.e. their bodies, faces, necks, and bossoms, etc.) and not to

reveal their adornment ..." (An-Nur 24:31)

 

Also among the things that must be covered are the clothes that a

woman wears IN HER HOME. It is not sufficient for a Muslim woman to

go out in PANTS or a SKIRT, a LONG SHIRT, or even a SHALWAR KAMEESE

and a khimar, because many times the clothes that a woman wears in

the house are themselves adornments.

 

As the above verse states, Allah (SWT) FORBIDS the believing women

from displaying her adornments, except to those people whom are

clearly named out in (the remaining part of) the verse (An Nur

24:31). Allah (SWT) also commands His Prophet (SAW) to tell the

women in the following verse,

 

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the

believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.

screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the

way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free

respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-

Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Al-Ahzab 33:59)

 

Even though the hijab is not merely a covering dress, equally as

important ,it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public;

there are certain standards of dress however, "Conditions of Hijab",

that must be maintained. Road to Hijab

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Raxmah   

Salaams

 

Walal the khimar is Hijab, but what you wear with it or lack of what you wear with it, and how you wear it defines if your attire is Islamic or not.

 

I prefer wearing khimar, becuase what I feel most comfortable in.

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Saalixa   

Somaalien

 

there is opinion and there is the truth, if you want to blind yourself from the laws of islam and i am the fundamental, non modern values of islam then you go ahead, but i was telling the girl the truth it wasn't like i was telling hear she is going to die or go to hell...thats not my obligations or objective.

 

Sis i was in that stage you mentioned,,,and no body just all of a sudden wakes up one day and says i am going to wear the hijaab or re equip my whole closet and style. But there is also no point in wearing tight clothin knowing it's wrong because then you are a hypocrite right? When the ayaah of the hijaab came down the women in that context were not ready and they neither had the right type of islamic uniform but they hear and obeyed ripping thier curtains off to cover until they sewed themselves new proper hijabs. So keeping that sterile mentality with little progress is only going to make you more vulnerable to the shaytan and you see days going by and your still not dressing in the proper way.

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nuune   

A Hijab is a word that indicated the following conditions :

 

1. Clothing must cover the

entire body, only the hands and face may remain visible (According to some Fiqh Schools) .

 

2. The material must not be so

thin that one can see through it.

 

3. The clothing must hang

loose so that the shape / form of the body is not apparent.

 

4. The female clothing must

not resemble the man's clothing.

 

5. The design of the clothing

must not resemble the clothing of the non believing women.

 

6. The design must not consist

of bold designs which attract attention.

 

7. Clothing should not be worn

for the sole purpose of gaining reputation or increasing one's status in society.

 

The reason for this strictness is so that the woman is

protected from the lustful gaze of men. She should not attract attention to herself in any

way. It is permissible for a man to catch the eye of a woman , however it is haram

(unlawful) for a man to look twice as this encourages lustful thoughts.

 

Islam protects the woman, it is for this reason that Allah

gave these laws. In today's society womankind is being exploited, female sexuality is

being openly used in advertising, mainly to attract the desires of men and therefore sell

the product. Is the woman really free in today's society ? The answer is obviously no, the

constant bombardment by the media as to how the ideal woman should look and dress

testifies to this.

 

Islam liberated woman over 1400 years ago. Is it better to

dress according to man or God ?

 

Allah has stated in the Quran that women must guard their

modesty.

 

" Say to the believing women

that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that they should not display

their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof. "

[Quran : 24.31]

 

" Say to the believing man that

they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty ; that will make for greater purity

for them, and God is well aquatinted with all they do. " [Quran : 24.30]

 

" And O ye believers turn ye all

together toward God, so that ye may attain bliss. " [Quran : 24.31]

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woow, wooow wooow, i never said its okay to wear tight clothing or ment to even imply it was. i said i still wear pants... LOOSE FITTING PANTS with long shirts that cover my thighs. however i have a new abaya in my closet now that i wear over my clothing anyways. imo tight clothing with something that covers your hair negates hijaab. its not a hijaab if yr body isnt covered right. i agreed with everything you said, i just thought a congratulations was in order for the young lady.sheeeesh.

 

 

btw, how are pants mens clothing? now, im nt trying to start a debate here im asking cause i sincerely want to know how you came to this conclusion. who knows, maybe youll be the person to make me stop wearing pants. now before you start ill say why it doesnt register as mens clothing to me, cause the argument is entirely subjective to ones culture. our men wear macawiis, which resemble sarong skirts which women wear, but its still mens clothing, right? are button down shirts also mens clothing? men wear it too. if anything the ayah prohibitting men from wearing womens clothing and vice versa seems to prohibit cross dressers, who wear clothes that make them look more feminine or masculin (depending on the case).

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^^ Actually, one of the reasons why I dont think the 'trousers r for men' debate doesnt hold water is that the trouser as we know today came generations after the prophet. At the time of the prophet, men wore "khamis" and the like. Trousers/pants were subsequently developed for men, specifically western men. Now, we have trousers specifically designed for women, therefore, to me they r women's clothing not men's. There are too many discrepancies as you mentioned SomeAlien to accurately distinguish between men and women's clothing, especially with regards to basic design. Therefore, its only logical to assume modesty as the primary factor to take into consideration when dressing.

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Salamu alaykum

 

Allah said

 

(24:31)

"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent , and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna"

 

the word Juyubihinna is plural for Jilbab, so the beleiving sisters are commanded by the lord of the 7 heavens and earth to wear Jilbab!

 

anything less has no prove from the Quran and Sunnah as far as i know!

 

concerning pants, its evident that sisters are not allowed but what about the brothers? read the following evidences and inshallah and it shall clarify any doubts one may have!

 

1. Praying/and wearing pants to cover the('awrah)private parts!

 

Praying in tight fitting clothes is deemed makrooh (disliked) according to the Sharee'ah. It also harms the body and hence it is not good from the point of view of health as well. Perhaps the one praying in such clothes actually leaves parts of his prayer out.

 

It is known that many people who dress in such a way do not attain their prayer at all while others attain only a little, like the prayer of a hypocrite.

 

Those who pray, many amongst them nowadays dress in clothes that drape around one or both of their private parts

 

Ibn Hajar says, that a group of the Hanafee scholars considered such practice as makrooh. [see Fathul-Baaree (1/476)]

 

If this is the case for normal trousers then what the case when they are very tight?

 

'Allaamah al-Albaanee explained that trousers have two problems:

 

a) This is a dress that resembles the disbelievers. Muslims used to dress in wide bottoms which were loose fitting and baggy like some still do so in Syria and Lebanon. The Muslims adopted this practice of wearing trousers/pants when they were colonized. When the colonizers departed, they left behind this evil influence and changed the Muslims due to the latter's ignorance.

 

b) This type of dress constricts and presses upon the 'awrah. The 'awrah of a man is from his knee up to his navel. The worshipper should be as far away as he can from disobedience of Allaah during his prayer. He is prostrating (in obedience and submission) to Him. How can he be praying and standing before His Lord, when his buttocks are shown up and what is between is visibly magnified?

 

It is surprising to find many young Muslims taking exception to ladies wearing tight clothes since they cling to their bodies, yet these young men are forgetting about themselves. There is no difference between a lady wearing tight clothes which press against her body and a man wearing trousers which also cling to his body. The buttock of both a man and a

woman is part of the 'awrah and both of them are the same. So it is compulsory for the youth to be warned about this predicament about which they are blind, except for he whom Allaah has guided, who are few. [Taken from one his tapes]

 

The Messenger (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) forbade a man from praying in his trousers (saaraweel) unless he had a wrapper (rida) on him. [Abu Daawood, al-Haakim and the hadeeth is Hasan]

 

For more details please consult the following:

"Saheehul-Jaami'us-Sagheer" of 'Allaamah al-Albaanee

"Sharh Ma'aaniyyul-Aathaar" of Imaam at-Tahaawee

Shaykh Hamood at-Tuwayjiree's discussion about it in his book which

talks about how resemblance of the mushrikoon has befallen upon many in

"Al-Iidaah wa-Tibyaan.."

 

As long as the trousers are wide and not tight the prayer is valid, but it is better to have a shirt or a top on that covers between the navel and the knee, or lower still unto the middle of his shins or down to just above his ankles, because that is the complete covering.

 

'Allaamah Ibn Baaz has a fatwaa where he says that it is permissible to pray in trousers so long as the 'awrah is not pressed against due to its expansiveness and his backside is not shamelessly visible. If his backside become visible then the prayer is invalidated and if only the clothes press against his 'awrah then it is makrooh.

 

2. Praying in Thin and Transparent Clothing

Just like it is makrooh to pray in tight fitting clothes which cling to the 'awrah and show them up, it is not permissible to pray in thin clothes which is transparent enough to make the (actual) body visible. [Fataawaa Rasheed Ridaa (5/2056)]

 

Praying in Sleeping Suit or Pajamas:

Abu Hurayrah (radhiAllaahu 'anhu) reports that a man stood up to the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) and asked him about praying in a single garment. So he (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Unless you find two garments." Then he asked 'Umar (radhiAllaahu 'anhu) who said, "When Allaah is generous, be generous yourselves. A man prayed in a lower

garment (izaar) and an upper garment (ridaa), a waist wrapper (izaar) and a shirt (qamees), in a lower wrap (izaar) and an outer garment with full length sleeves (qaba`), in trousers (saraaweel) and an upper wrap (ridaa), in trousers and a shirt (qamees), in trousers and upper garment (qaba`), in tubbaan and qaba`, and in tubbaan and qamees. [bukhaaree, Maalik in al-Muwatta, Muslim, Abu Daawood, an-Nisaa`ee, Ibn Maajah, al-Humaydee, Ahmad in al-Musnad, at-Tayaalisee, at-Tahaawee, al-Baghawee, Abu Nu'aym, al-Khateeb]

 

'Abdullaah ibn 'Umar (radhiAllaahu 'anhu) saw Naafi' praying by himself in a single garment (thawb). So he said to him, "Can you not wear two garments?" He said, "Of course". He said, "Do you go out to the market in a single garment?" He said, "No". He said, "Allaah has more right that He is dressed up for!" [at-Tahaawee in "Sharh Ma'aniyyul-Aathaar",

"Tafseerul-Qurtubee" and al-Mughnee]

 

Such is the case for one who prays in his night garments. He would feel shy to go to market in it on account of its thinness and transparency. Ibn 'Abdul-Barr said in "at-Tamheed" : The people of knowledge love for one to be enveloped in his garments; that he beautifies himself for his prayer as much as he is able with regards to his clothes, applies perfume and cleanses his teeth (miswaak).

 

On the topic of conditions for the correctness of the prayer, the jurists (fuqahaa) talk about the condition of covering the 'awrah: They make the condition for the covering to be thick and say it is not permissible to make it fine so that the skin tone is visible. ["al-Majmoo'", al-Mughnee, etc]

 

This is a requirement whether for a man or a woman, whether praying alone or in congregation. So whoever's clothes reveal his 'awrah in spite of his ability to keep it covered, then his prayer is invalidated. Yaa banee aadama khudhoo zeenatakum 'inda kulli masjidin [sooratul-A'raf Aayah 31]

 

According to "ad-Deenul-Khaalis" 2/101 and "at-Tamheed" 6/379 the aim of zeenah is the thawb and the command means to conceal the 'awrah for every prayer.

 

Praying in a Light Tunic:

Some people pray in garments that only lightly cover their bodies and its transparency allows one to see the person's skin colour, while not wearing anything underneath. (It is not enough to wear shorts or trunks underneath unless it covers the extent between the belly-button and the knee.) The statement of 'Umar previously shows usage of more than one garment to screen oneself and how one garment is added to another. The evidence shows that it is compulsory (waajib) to be properly covered and praying in only one garment is allowed only because of the person's straightened circumstances. The prayer of someone in two garments is better than doing so in one. This has been clearly elaborated by Qaadee 'Iyaadh who has dispelled the differences regarding this matter. [see Fathul-Baaree, al-Majmoo' (1/476)

and Naylul-Awtaar (2/78, 84)]

 

Imaam Shaafi'ee said if a person prays in his shirt and it reveals him, then his prayer is invalidated. [see al-Umm (1/78)]

 

Even Worse For Ladies:

 

The lady doing that is in a more terrible situation than the man. And if she prays in a loose outer garment with sleeves and slit in front then it is better for her to wear her jilbaab on top. She must make sure she does not pray wearing delicate material such as nylon or chiffon. Consider the hadeeth where we are told how in the last part of the nation

of Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa salam) there will be ladies who are dressed yet they are naked.

 

Ibn 'Abdul-Barr says such women will dress in light material which will cover them yet not screen them, so they will be dressed in name but naked in reality. [Tanweerul-Hawaalik 3/103]

 

A report from Hisham Ibn 'Urwah shows once Mundhir ibn Zubayr sent a beautiful garment from Kohistan to Asmaa Bint Abee Bakr who having felt the material and disapprovingly asked for it to be sent back to the sender. When asked as to why since it did not show the body, she replied it was transparent. [ibn Sa'd in at-Tabaqaatul-Kubraa (8/184) : saheeh]

 

As-Safaareenee said it is forbidden to wear clothes that is light and fine so that the 'awrah is not covered whether for a male or a female. This is a matter of the Sharee'ah without any difference. [ad-Deenul-Khaalis (6/180)]

 

Ash-Shawkaanee said in "Naylul-Awtaar" (2/115) that it is compulsory (waajib) for a lady to cover her body with a garment which is not transparent. This is a condition for covering the 'awrah.

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Assalaam 3aleikum!

 

i would relly like to comment ur answers but i am running out of time, and i got math Exam to study.

 

A Q for those sisters who prefer Khimar!. When did Khimar became Hijab? i mean back home in somalia, only Kids under 10 wear Khimar, and if a women is seen with khimar(it is sort of ceeb) so does the fact that we came to western countries change the size of Hijab, Hijab should be Hijab where ever u are, either in somalia , in the west or in Arab countries. plzz don`t get me wrong, couze every 1 got his/her own meaning...

 

hijab is more than a clothe to wear, and i guess many of u mention akhlaaq and diin and xishood, those are also parts of hijab..

 

i will come back to this inshallah , untill then:Assalaam 3leikum!

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