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Ahlu Sunna yet again defeat Alshabab in Central Somalia: more than 76 deads!

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Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o:

You cannot save your women in Qabridahare, Dhaxbuur and Wardheer if you're raping your own women in Mogadishu.

DAMN!!!

 

That's gotta hurt...

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Kamaavi   

Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

Of course we can conclude so because there is no evidence to suggest otherwise. Despite the repeated tantrum by kasha, me and other like-minded deluded teenagers, there is no credible evidence to suggest that Ahlu Sunnah receives support from the Ethiopian regime.
Why? Because it is not true.

In other words, if you claim the said men do not receive support from the said regime then the pardon is on you to prove it? What are you evidences that the said regime does not support the said men >?

 

You have been asked only to explain the basis of your conclution. All you did is spout nonsense.

 

You're delusional if you can't explain the basis of your conclution. Take a simple course in basic logic and you'll be quick to point it out!

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Originally posted by Recovering-Romantics :

quote:Originally posted by me:

Meiji,

 

I await the arrival of the Al Shabab – Xiz Islam supporters and their answers to your questions.

 

On the question of receiving foreign help to defeat an occupation let us look at history.

 

1. In the American War of Independence the revolutionaries received arms, funding, training, and event officers from France. France wanted to diminish the British role in the American colonies.
. The American interests and the French interests were aligned.

2. The Cuban war of independence. The US helped Cuba against Spain.

3. Vietnam received support from China during the Vietnam War. Should Vietnam have said no no thanks, we will just use sticks and stones to liberate our country or was it morally justified to accept help?

 

I can name another 50 examples of countries under occupation accepting foreign help to liberate them selves from tyranny. Somalia’s case is no different.

 

We should understand that Ethiopian occupation and Ethiopian meddling is the reason why Somalia accepts outside help. If Ethiopia was not attacking Somalia there would be no need for Eritrean help.

 

It is morally justified to accept help when threatened by mortal danger. Somalia’s acceptance of Eritrean help is justified.

Going by the same reasoning, then you should have no problem with the Somalia government asking AU and the Ethiopians to dislodge the anarchists.

 

See how simplistic and narrow-minded your views really are?
1. There is no legitimate Somali government. It is like the Vichy regime asking the Nazi's for help against the French resistance.

 

2. Ethiopia was meddling with Somali affairs long before there was even a country called Eritrea. Ethiopia has armed, trained and supplied rebel groups and warlords for the past 30 years.

 

Ethiopia created the TFG, so how can you compare a puppet asking its master for help with an independent movement fighting for the liberation of its homeland?

 

Fighting Ethiopia and fighting the TFG is the same thing. Waa kab iyo xaarkeed.

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Meiji   

But out here, on the wind-whipped plains of Somalia’s central region, it is a different story. The moderates are holding their own,
and the newly minted Sufi militia is about the only local group to go toe-to-toe with the Shabab and win.

 

The several-hundred-squa re-mile patch of central Somalia that the Sufis control is not nearly as strategic as Mogadishu.
But the Sufis have achieved what the transitional government has not: grass-roots support, which explains how they were able to move so quickly from a bunch of men who had never squeezed a trigger before — a rarity in Somalia — into a cohesive fighting force backed by local clans.

 

Many Somalis say that the Sufi version of Islam, which stresses tolerance, mysticism and a personal relationship with God, is more congruent with their traditions than the Wahhabi Islam espoused by the Shabab, which calls for strict separation of the sexes and harsh punishments like amputations and stonings.

 

“We see the Sufis as part of us,” said Elmi Hersi Arab, an elder in the battered central Somalia town of Dusa Marreb. “They grew up here.”

 

The Sufis also tapped into an anti-Shabab backlash. The Shabab, who recruit from all clans, and, according to American officials, are linked to Al Qaeda, controlled Dusa Marreb for the better part of last year. Residents described that period as a reign of terror, with the Shabab assassinating more than a dozen village elders and even beheading two women selling tea.

 

“We respected the Shabab for helping drive out the Ethiopians,” said one woman in Dusa Marreb who asked not to be identified for safety reasons. “But when the Ethiopians left and the Shabab kept the war going, that to us didn’t make sense.”

 

Out here, the Sufis are moving ahead with their own small administration, meeting with United Nations officials and running patrols. At night, in a circle under a tree, they rest their AK-47s on their Korans, drop their foreheads to the earth and pray.

 

“We have jihad, too,” said Sheik Omar, a tall man with a long beard and warm eyes. “But it’s inner jihad, a struggle to be pure.”

 

 

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