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Maya anigu waxaan ka waramayaa 2009 ka ,,,hal sano waaye nooh ,, halkaas sano hal lee keeni kartaa sida caadiga ah ,, We will discuss about the 2010 at the end of the 2009 IA ,,,,
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As reported by the BBC, Ethiopian troops led by Hiiraale has crossed the border and captured some towns in Gedo region. an interview with one of the commanders, he denied the eithiopian troops and said they are locals and fighting under the name, Ahlusunnah wal Jamaacah. More news to come ............
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Interview with Republic of Somaliland foreign minister
Jacaylbaro replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
Naah ,, don't jump them to the presidential seat sxb ,,, they are just fine here being Ministers. -
Somaliland Military Officers Killed in Widhwidh
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Now the situation is back and the registration is going on in widhwidh ,,,,, -
Xubin ka tirsan gudiga dib u heshiisiinta DFKM oo caawa lagu dilay Baydhabo
Jacaylbaro replied to Emperor's topic in Politics
Adeer no one is hiring no one here ,,, lawless has been there for 17 years and such thing never happened. -
Waxaa saaka safar ku kala bixiyay indho indhayn ah gobaha ay ka socoto diiwaan gelinta magaalada Laascaanood gudaheeda madaxwayne kuxigeenka Somaliland Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin iyo qaar kamid ah Golaha Wasiirada Somaliland ee ku sugan magaalada Laascaanod. Safarkan uu madaxwayne kuxigeenku ku tagay goobaha diiwaan gelinta magaalada Laascaanood ayaa waxa hor socday Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Sool Cali Maxamuud Axmed iyo Gudoomiye kuxigeenka Gobolka Sool Maxamed Faarax Maxamuud iyagoo tusayay goobaha ay ka socoto kuwaas oo shacabka magaaladu ugu jireen safaf dhaadheer. Madaxwaynaha ayaa goobihii uu tagay waxa uu ka dhagaystay qaabka diiwaan gelintu u socoto iyo waxa cilad ah inay ku yimaadeen iyo waliba dhanka amniga taas oo uu u hadlayay goobtaasi shaqsiga ugu magacaaban Gudoomiyaha goobtaasi iyagoo si wayn uga war bixinyay qaabka ay diiwaan gelintu u socoto. Mar uu ka hadlayay Gudoomiyaha Goobta Diiwaan gelinta kasoo horjeedka Masjidul Hudda ee koonurta magaalada ayaa waxa uu sheegay inuu si wayn ugu faraxsan yahay qaabka uu hawshiisa uu u wato aysana jirin wax cilad ah oo ku timi iyo waliba isagoo si wayn u amaanay dhanka amaanka oo uu sheegay inuu si wayn ugu faraxsan yahay amiga magaalada oo aad u sareeya. Hadaba madaxwayanaha ayaa waxa uu dhamaanba ka dhagaystay goobihii uu tagay qaabka iyo sida ay hawshu usocoto iyagoo dhamaanba goobahaasi ay xusayeen inay si wanaagsan hawshoodii u wataan taas oo ugu danbanytii uu madaxwaynuhu uu kusoo laabtay hogii uu ka daganaa magaalada Laascaanood.
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Baarlamaanak Puntlanda ayaa waxaa y maanta doorteen Gudoomiyihii Baarlamaanka maamul Goboleedka Puntland oo maalmihii u danbeeyay si wayn loo hadal hayay doorshada cidda noqon doonta kadib markii xubnihii sida wayn isha loogu hayay inay isu soo taagi doonaan doorashada Puntland ay ka gaabiyeen lana waayay cid isu soo taagta. Gudoomiyahan cusub ee C/rashiid Maxamed Xirsi ayaa waxa uu isu soo taagay xilka Gudoomiyenimada Baarlamaanka Puntland kadib markii uu waayay cid isla soo sharaxda iyadoo Gudoomiyuhuu kasoo jeedo Gobolka Mudug uuna ka dhashay Beesha ******** iyadoo xilkani ay tan iyo intii Puntland dhidibada loo tagaay ay soo qaban jireen Gudoomiyayaal kasoo jeeda Sanaag Barri. Siihayaha Guddoomiyaha Barlamaanka Axmed Cali Xaashi ayaa waxa uu ku dhawaaqay in xilka Gudoomiyenimada Puntland uu ku guulaystay C/rashiid Maxamed Xirsi kadib markii ay dhacday cod far taag ah uuna sidaa ku helay uuna xilkiisu yahay ansax taas oo ay si wayn ugaga mahad celiyeen masuuliyiintii halkaasi kahadshay. Sidoo kale waxaa halkaasi ka hadalay Gudoomiyaha Cusub oo u mahad celiyay xildhibaanada kasoo qayb galay madashan isagoo halkaasi ka balan qadaay inuu si sharci ah cadaaladna ah uu u gudan doono xilka wayn ee miisaanka leh ee loo diibtay taas oo ay si wayn ugu sacbiyeen xildhibaanadii iyo waliba masuuliyiintii halkaasi ku sugnayd. Hadaba waxaa la filayaa in ay maalmaha soo socda ay yeelan doonaan Baarlamaanka Puntalnd kalfadhiyadoodii caadiga ahayd iyadoo sidoo kalena la filayo inay soo dhisan doonaan gudiyadooda iyo waliba arinta ugu wayn oo ah in 08/01/2009 ay dooran doonaan madaxwayanaha qaban doona xilka madaxwaynenimo ee Puntland.
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Waxaa saaka lagu toogtay deegaanka Widhwidh ee Gobolka Buuhoodle labo kamid ah saraakiisha militery-ga ee Somaliland kuna sugan Gobolka Sool kuwaas oo halkaasi u joogay inay amniga goobtaasi sugaan oo la la filayo inay ka dhacdo diiwaan gelinta Somaliland ee deegaankaasi. Mar aan wax ka waydiinay sarkaal ka tirsan saraakiisha militery-ga ee Gobolka Sool ayaa waxa uu si wayn u canbaareeyay falkaas isagoo ku tilmaamay midwaxashnimo ah sidoo kalena u tacsiyeeyay saraakiisha halkaasi ku geeriyootay isagoo ku tilmaamay inuu falkaasi u dhacay si lama filaan ah. Sarkaalkan oo magaciisa ka gaabsaday ayaa waxa uu sheegay in saraakiisha halkaasi ku geeri yootay loo galay meel wado ah laguna furay tacshiirad aysana jirijn dagaal dhex maray labo dhinac isagoo intaasi ku daray in lagu **** jiro cidii falkaasi ka danbaysay ayna ciidamadu hadda baadi goob ugu jiraan sidii ay usoo qaban lahaayeen. Sidoo kale mar aan wax ka waydiinay inay ciidamadu hadda ku sugan yihiin iyo in kale ayaa waxa uu sheegay inay ciidamadu ku sugan yihiin ayna diiwaan gelintu ka bilaabmayso amniga meeshuna uu caadi yahay falkaasina ahaa mid si kadis ah u dhacay ee uusan ahayn wax ka yimi shacabka deegaankaasi. Hadaba Degmada Widhwih ee Gobolka Buuhoodle ayaa waxaa ka dhacay falkan lagu dilay labada sarkaal ee militery-ga Somaliland iyadoo uu falkani dhacay xilli ay goobtaasi ka bilaabmi lahayd isdiiwaan gelinta Somaliland ee deegaankaasi loogu talo galay iyadoo sidoo kale uu maanta ka anbabaxay magaalada Laascaanood Gudoomiyaha Gobolka Buuhoodle Ismaaciil afmiishaar isagoo u anbabaxay deegaanka widhwidh.
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Xubin ka tirsan gudiga dib u heshiisiinta DFKM oo caawa lagu dilay Baydhabo
Jacaylbaro replied to Emperor's topic in Politics
Khaa'inul wadan doesn't deserve a mercy from his people sxb ,,,,,, they are traitors and they will all die in that way if they don't repent and come back to their country. Allah ha u naxariisto muslim oo dhan ....... -
I will wait until they write THE FALL OF ALSHABAAB soon .......
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Washington - The United States will provide $5 million to support formation of a joint security force in Somalia, a State Department spokesman said. The announcement, issued in a December 29 press statement by acting deputy spokesman Gordon Duguid, came on the same day Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf announced his resignation. The United States supports and respects Yusuf's decision to resign after four years as president of the Transitional Federal Government (TFG,) Duguid said. He said the United States acknowledges "President Yusuf's contributions to long-term peace and stability in Somalia." Duguid said the United States welcomes Yusuf's commitment to continue supporting the Djibouti peace process. Members of the TFG and the Alliance for the Re-liberation of Somalia (ARS), an opposition party, met in Djibouti in June 2008 and agreed to take concrete steps toward reducing hostilities, including establishing a joint security force. Parties to the Djibouti agreement called for establishing a joint committee on security arrangements and a high-level committee on political issues related to justice and reconciliation. It also called for more efforts to ensure unhindered humanitarian access to affected populations in Somalia. The United States has called on all Somali involved entities, whether party to the agreement or not, to abide by its provisions and support its implementation. "We urge Parliamentary Speaker Madoobe, Prime Minister Nur Adde and the leaders of the [ARS] to intensify efforts to achieve a government of national unity and to enhance security through formation of a joint security force," Duguid said. Duguid said the United States expects the Somali parliament to "act expeditiously" and select a new president within 30 days, in accordance with the procedures outlined in the Transitional Federal Charter. The charter is a United Nations-backed framework for restoring peace and good governance to Somalia. Duguid also said the United States supports strengthening the African Union Mission in Somalia and would like to see a "rapid authorization and deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping force."
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Xubin ka tirsan gudiga dib u heshiisiinta DFKM oo caawa lagu dilay Baydhabo
Jacaylbaro replied to Emperor's topic in Politics
Another one from Somaliland ,,,,, Let them all die in the same way. That is what you get when you abandon your country and run to another one that is giving you a shot as a reward. WHO IS NEXT ?? -
Interview with Republic of Somaliland foreign minister
Jacaylbaro replied to Jacaylbaro's topic in Politics
The Minister is the man ,,,,,,,,,,,, He really did a remarkable progress during the recent months. -
We're all here Marx ..... Let the haters enjoy their anger until they blast from within.....
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Familyka inaan badiyo insha'allah Hal lee ku dari kartaa maahinoo ?? ,,
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looooooooooooooooool@nuune ,, habarta dacas bay isla dhacday sow maaha ?
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Mine is coming closer ,,,, stay tuned for 11th Feb ,,, but u should remind me coz i always forget it is my B-day ,,
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Mr. Abdulahi Mohamed Duale is the foreign minister of Somaliland. Mr. Duale had also served as finance minister.The foreign minister spoke to Getachew Nigatu about the current situation in Somalia and Somaliland. Excerpts: Recently, Ethiopian trade office in Hargessa and UN offices there had become targets of terrorist attacks. Who is responsible for the attacks? And can you tell us about the investigation? Somaliland suffered a serious terrorist attack unprecedented in the Horn of Africa. The government is doing its best to apprehend those responsible for the attack and bring them to justice. We have no doubt that Al-Shabab is behind those attacks. The terrorist attacks carried out by Al-Shabab in the name of Islam are unacceptable. Islam is not about suicide and killing others. Islam is a peaceful religion; it doesn’t condone the killings of civilians. We are Muslims. The government of Somaliland is combating terrorism. We are working hard to bring the terrorists to justice. How strong is the relationship between Ethiopia and Somaliland? The relationship between Ethiopia and Somaliland in very much strong, beyond what anyone expects. Our president, Mr. Kahin, maintains constant contact with PM Meles Zenawi and discusses bilateral issues. I, too, work closely with my Ethiopian counterpart Seyoum Mesfin and his deputy Dr. Tekeda Alemu. The two countries cooperate on trade, diplomacy, security and democracy. The relationship between the people of the two countries is based on mutual respect. Ethiopian Airlines has suspended its daily flight to Hargessa due to security concern for the time being. Our government shares this concern. Ethiopian Airlines has never flown to Somalia for business. But it has been flying to Somaliland for years. We are proud of that. Not only Ethiopia but also South Sudan can use the port of Berbera in the future. The fact that Ethiopia’s interests and UN offices were attacked is an attempt to attack Somaliland itself. Peace has eluded Somalia for the past 17 years. What is your assessment of the current situation is Somalia? We feel sorry for our Southern brothers. We think that we can share our experience with them on how we achieved peace. The international community must still give big attention to Somalia. The politicians in Somalia could not see or act beyond clan politics. The international community has made efforts to bring peace to Somalia. You can only take a horse to the river but you can’t make it drink. The world had repeatedly tried to bring the different factions to peaceful negotiations. Somali leaders couldn’t do anything for their people. We feel sorry about that. The Somali transitional government and others in the former Italian ruled Somalia do not accept the formation of Somaliland. They always ask the international community not to give you recognition. After Somaliland first declared independence from Britain, it willingly united with Somalia. This union brought us nothing useful. We had no peace when we were with the Southerners. We didn’t have any kind of big institutions then. Now we have five universities and five colleges. Now there is peace and democracy. There are many development endeavours going on in Somaliland. The city of Hargessa is growing rapidly. The idea of building Greater Somalia was insane. The reason why Somalia’s flag had five stars was to express the dream to rule Somali speaking people from five countries, i.e. Italian Somaliland, British Somaliland, French Somaliland (Djibouti), Ethiopia and Kenya under one flag. That is a nightmare. So we took ourselves out of this nightmare and established our own country. But they didn’t wake up from that dream. There is no way that we will unite with Somalia in the future. What we want to advise our southern brothers is that if they want to build a stable country, they should abandon the Greater Somalia dream. They should abandon the five-star flag. The five Somali speaking people will never be united. Somalia went to war twice with Ethiopia and once with Kenya. It was an exercise in futility. They have to open up their eyes. They should not dream of uniting with Somaliland. Somaliland is a sovereign country. We are very poor. Our annual budget is not more than USD 55 million. But we have built a peaceful and stable country. A peace initiative has been taken by Djibouti. Although there are hopeful signs, there are also frustrating conditions? It is the wish of the government of Somaliland to see the successful completion of the peace process. We wish success to the Djibouti initiative. But the peace process will be successful if all parties agree to accept the independence of Somaliland. All of them have to understand that Somaliland is now a sovereign country, and that the people of Somaliland have made a choice to live separately from the rest of Somalia. We are ready to talk to any administration in Mogadishu which is willing to accept our sovereignty. But if Southern Somalis could not establish peace among themselves, it doesn’t mean that Somaliland’s peace, security or recognition by others must be held hostage. We are not hostage to the chaos in Somalia. The world must recognize this fact. Let them know that Somaliland’s internal peace and security will not crumble as a result of pressure from forces in Mogadishu. It’s been more than a decade and half since you asked for international recognition. Is there any hope that you will get that recognition? Somaliland is doing everything it can to get international recognition. One is that we are trying to achieve economic development, build democracy and show the world what kind of order we have built. The second thing is to intensify our diplomatic effort to secure that recognition. A lot of countries are giving attention to us. For instance, the African Union (AI) is closely working with us. Former AU commissioner Alpha Oumar Konare had sent a delegation that visited four of our provinces. He showed us that he is truly a son of Africa. He presented our case to the AU Summit in Sirt in Lybia. Currently, the AU is closely monitoring the situation in Somaliland and Somalia by assigning a special envoy. This encourages us. Africa has lost something because it failed to engage Somaliland. There is a lot that Somaliland can contribute to Africa. Which country do you think should recognize Somaliland first? We will be very happy if any country gives us recognition. When the government of Bangladesh was first established, it was the neighboring country, India that first recognized it. Nations unite and separate. Somaliland’s case is no different. African leaders have a moral obligation to recognize Somaliland. Because they have failed to do that, Somaliland citizens who live under reign of democracy and peace are facing problems. History will judge in favour of Somaliland people. The leaders should open their eyes. We believe that one smart African leader will break the taboo and give recognition to Somaliland. How long should the Somaliland people be denied recognition? Because we have no recognition, we couldn’t secure loans from IMF and World Bank. If countries give recognition to us first, we can then become members of AU and UN. The Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) and AU could not accept us as members because individual countries were reluctant to give that recognition. What does the implication of lack of peace in Somalia mean to Somaliland? How much have you been affected? If peace reigns in Somalia, everybody will benefit. What our Southern brothers have done has made them the laughingstock of the world. They plan to fail. If they plan to fail, they won’t achieve anything. They failed to aim to succeed. The reason why we beg the world to help Somalia is that if peace is achieved there, Somaliland will benefit, too. Ethiopia is withdrawing its troops from Somalia after two years. What will be the implication for peace in the sub-region? All Africans should thank the government of Ethiopia for its role in Somalia. Not only Africans, the international community should also be grateful for what Ethiopia has been doing. Ethiopians have shed their blood for the sake of Somalia. Ethiopia has paid a lot of sacrifices in Somalia. The government of Somaliland holds Ethiopia’s role in special regard. Although Ethiopia has exerted a lot of effort to achieve peace in Somalia, the international community has failed her by not sending peacekeeping troops to Somalia. The government of PM Meles Zenawi had contributed a great deal to Africa and the world. It has guarded the peace in the sub-region at least for the time being. Had Ethiopia not gone to Somalia, it would have been impossible to imagine what the extremists could have done. The region would have been in chaos. If Ethiopian troops leave Somalia, the transitional government will face immediate danger. In my opinion, if there is no peacekeeping force in Somalia, a much more serious problem would surface in that country. I can’t decide what Ethiopia should do. But in my opinion, Ethiopia’s withdrawal from Somalia will create a vaccum on an unprecedented scale. The result could be disastrous. But we can defend ourselves from Somali extremists. If the government of Ethiopia decides to withdraw its troops from Somalia, there must be an orderly withdrawal. The international community shouldn’t be negligent. It must send in peacekeeping troops very quickly. Pirates have endangered the international trade route off the coast of Somalia. What are you doing to limit the dangers that these pirates pose? Somaliland has never been attacked by pirates, not even an attempt was made. We are closely guarding our coastline. The government of Somaliland has long experience in fighting pirates. There is no way that pirates can base their operations in Somaliland. If the international community desires to learn how we successfully manage to control pirates, we are willing to share our experience. Piracy has become a real danger to international trade. We can cooperate with the international community to contain this danger. The other secessionist Somali territory is the Puntland where some of the pirates have their base. What is your relationship with them? We have some sort of relationship with Puntland authorities. For instance, we jointly patrol our common border. They are also trying to learn from our experience at forming a proper government. We want to cooperate with them because they are our neighbours, just like Djibouti and Ethiopia. There is illegal human trafficking in Puntland. Many Somalis and Ethiopians lost their lives while they were being smuggled out of Puntland via the sea. As in any country, there are corrupt officials in Puntland whose activities endanger the interests of their country. They have to refrain from doing that. There is also illegal arms trade in Puntland. But that’s not the case in Somaliland.” Western diplomats hail Somaliland’s democratic order as an example to the rest of Africa. You will also be holding the second presidential election shortly. Is there a possibility that you will face a post-election crisis just like other African countries? We have created Somaliland out of nothing. The people are led by leaders of their own choice. Last time, the first presidential election was held. The opposition party claimed fraud in the election. But the number of votes that were allegedly rigged is only 80, even according to the opposition party. The case was taken to the Supreme Court which had the final say on the matter. All parties consented to the Supreme Court decision. Currently the party in which I’m a member is administrating the country. There is real competition in our democracy. The ruling party has only nine more seats than the opposition in parliament. Although the ruling party could form a government on its own, it included opposition parties in the cabinet. We make improvements to our democracy from time to time. Somaliland has a constitutional order. The fact that we avoided clan politics enabled as to get where we are now.
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The elderly ruler of Umm al-Quwain, the smallest of the seven emirates comprising the United Arab Emirates, has died, the state news agency WAM reported on Friday. UAE President Sheikh Khalifah bin Zayed al-Nahayan has ordered a week of national mourning and all government institutions to close for three days starting from Friday, WAM said. The UAE's two most powerful emirates are Abu Dhabi, home to over 90 percent of the country's oil and the major contributor to the federal budget, and Dubai, the Gulf's tourism hub.
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I sometimes love the ,,, ehem ,,,
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Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin,Siilaanyo,Faysal Cali Waraabe oo soo gaadhay magaalada Laascaanood Waxaa saaka soo gaadhay magaalada Laascaanood wafdi balaadhan oo uu hogaaminayo Madaxwayne kuxigeenka Somaliland Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin oo hor kacayay xubno kamid ah Golaha wasiirada Somaliland iyo waliba Golayaasha baarlamaanka Somalilaland. Wadidan aaya waxaa kamid ahaa Madaxwayne kuxigeenka Somaliland Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin,Gudoomiyaha Golaaha wakiilada Somaliland C/raxmaan Maxamed C/laahi,wasiirka arimaha dibada C/laahi Maxamed Ducale,wasiirka hawlaha Guud Siciid Sulub,Wasiirka arimaha Gudaha C/laahi Ismaaciil Cirro,wasiirka Ganacsiga Cismaan Qaasim Qodax,Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga C/laahi Cali Ibraahim,Wasiiru Dawlaha arimaha Gudaha Xasan Macalin. Sidoo kale waxaa horay ugu sugnaa Wasiirka Cadaalada Somaliland Axmed Xasan Cali (Casoowe),Wasiirka horumarinta reer miyiga Maxamed Hagar Dirir, Gudoomiye kuxigeenka Somaliland Baashe Maxamed Cadde,Siyaasiga Axmed Cabdi Xaabsade,Gudoomiyaha Xisbiga Kulmiye Axmed Maxamuud Siilaanyo iyadoo sidoo kalena maanta uu soo gaadhay Gudoomiyaha xisbiga UCID Faysal Cali Waraabe. Waxaa madaxwayne kuxigeenka Somaliland Axmed Yuusuf Yaasiin iyo wafdida la socotay si wayn usoo dhaweeyay masuuliyiinta Gobolka Sool iyo Degmada Laascaanood iyo xubnihii dawlada dhexe ee ku sugnaa Gobolka Sool maalmihii lasoo dhaafay. Kadib markii uu soo gaadhay madaxwayne kuxigeenku ayaa waxa uu shir jaraa’id ku qabtay Guriga Gobolka Sool iyadoo ay halkaasi ka hadleen masuuliyiin kala gedisan Madaxwaynaha oo halkaasi ka hadlaya waxa uu yiri ‘ aad ayaan ugu faraxsanhay inaan imaado magaalada Laascaanood ee Gobolka Sool waxaa sharaf noo ah tareenkii ka bilaabmay Saaxil inay khatinto Sool sidoo kale waxa uu uga digay in qafkii kaadhka diiwaangelinta Somaliland qaadan waaya maanta oo gurigiisa loogu keenay barri u mari doono wado dheer’ Sidoo kale Axmed Cabdi Xaabsade ayaa waxa uu halkaasi kasoo jeediyay hadalo uu kaga tarjumayo shacabka SSB sida ay ugu diyaar yihiin in ay wax la qayb sadaan walaalohooda Somaliland isagoo sheegay in taa badalkeeda waxa ay tabanayaan wax laga qabto. Ugu danbayntiii ayaa waxaa halkaasi hadal kooban kasoo jeediyay Gudoomiyaha Golaaha wakiilada Somaliland C/raxmaan Maxamed C/laahi oo xusay inuu si wayn ugu faraxsan yahay imaashiyaha Gobolka Sool isagoo xusay in diiwaan gelintuna ay tahay in si wayn looga qayb qaato taas oo ah hab dimuqraadiya isagoo sidoo kalena xusay in Baarlamaanka shalay lagu dhaariyay Garowe ay kasoo baxaan waajib kooda ayna ilaaliyaan xuduuda Somaliland isagoo intaa ku daray in Gudoomiyaha cusub uu ku casumi doono magaalada Hargeisa ee Somaliland.
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Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^Indeed adeer, anyhow the SSC issue will be resolved since the Lion is back. He is back and the registration is going on in Sool adeer ,,,,,, just to tell you the old man is not relevant.
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Ethiopian troops and Puntland forces to leave Mogadishu this week
Jacaylbaro replied to Emperor's topic in Politics
I was going to let the issue solved in other peaceful ways but if you call for a war then let it be. You are always the first to start and the last to loose and runaway ,,,,,, waar hooy ka joog ,,,,, -
Ethiopian troops and Puntland forces to leave Mogadishu this week
Jacaylbaro replied to Emperor's topic in Politics
They are coming to a SOOL near you secessionist so keep talking. Is that a threat ?? ,,,, A military show ?? Ma lix baan la diriraa Ma labaan ka cararaa ,,