Valenteenah.;839965 wrote: Funny how it's always the privileged few (and no, I'm not counting the above SOLers) who lament about population growth. Perhaps they should stop consuming the lion's share of the world's resources if they wanna save the planet? A high birth rate is the only thing going for deprived Somalis right now - children are their investment and future pension. Ditto

Xiin....I think it depends how you look at the situation in all of Somalia including Waqooyi. I see Somalia as country that broke down to the very basic components namely clans and sub-clans despite the semblance of some governance in the north and northeast. The question for all Somalis is does each clan speak for itself and commit themselves to the union or do we allow pseudo-administrations speak for all tribes that they believe is under domain?

^The question is who do you talk to and who does Hargeysa represent? And the silly idea of dictating who's on the TFG committee won't help? And to me, I am looking from Mogadishu's interest, we don't have leverage short of employing the tribes on Somaliland periphery namely Khaatumo or the tribe it represents.

^The whole process is waste of time.

^That would do it...I always used to laugh at reer waqooyi jokes tainted with religion..

^LOL....You mean reer Waqooyi stop insulting diinta iyo nabiga.

Blackflash;839819 wrote: Don't pull the cart before the horse, fertility rates decline naturally as the economy develops. I . Usheeg...loool They replied with Western mindset-contextualize people.

The problem with ONLF is the same problem with all Somali movements and that's they either have no political goal or lack the competency to achieve their goal. What you are left with is an organization sending young men to their death without any clear and sustainable political ambition. It's one thing to say we want to liberate Somaligalbeed or rule Somalia but it's another to actually do it and have wits and skills to master it.

^It's always ka layaso that becomes most feverish I hate women beaters.

Greek far-right Golden Dawn MP wanted for assault Greek prosecutors have issued an arrest warrant for the spokesman of the far-right Golden Dawn party after he slapped a left-wing politician in the face on live television. Ilias Kasidiaris, who was elected to Greece's parliament in last month's elections, was debating with two female politicians on a chat show. Video footage shows him throwing a glass of water at one of the women. When the other intervened, he slapped her in the face three times. Anti-immigration Mr Kasidiaris appeared to have been provoked when Rena Dourou of the radical left-wing Syriza party mentioned his alleged involvement in an armed robbery in 2007. He jumped up and threw a glass of water across the table at her, a You Tube clip of the Antenna television channel showed. When Liana Kanelli of the Greek Communist party, the KKE, apparently threw a newspaper at him, he responded by slapping her around the face with three right-left blows. A journalist at Antenna told the AFP news agency that colleagues were unable to stop Mr Kasidiaris from leaving the building. Golden Dawn has risen in profile after it won just under 7% of votes, or 21 seats, in parliamentary elections on 6 May. The party's staunch anti-immigration policy has led to accusations of racism and instigating violent attacks against immigrants. Golden Dawn's leader, Nikos Michaloliakos, has also denied the existence of gas chambers at Auschwitz and questioned the Holocaust, but he rejects the label neo-Nazi. Greece's political system has been thrown into dissarray as the results of last month's elections failed to give any party enough seats in parliament to form a coalition. Another vote is due to be held on June 17 to try and end a political impasse that eurozone leaders say is harming Greece's ability to tackle its economic crisis. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18352258

rudy-Diiriye;839553 wrote: I am offering an acre of land and 2 camels who ever turns a clan cheerleader!! its an awesome deal. loool..define clan cheerleaders?

The klan might be patriotic but ONLF leadership has narrow mindset and even narrower agenda-devoid of any creativity and no appreciation for the geopolitics of the Horn and the world in general.

^I think the idea was to derail this whole thread till just time this kid works out his anger issues and settles down. That has been achieved beautifully. Besides, discussions like this is mere attempt to reinforce what one already believes-argument for argument's sake. Waryaa JB, are you calling Aadan script? Burahadeer...Smart you say, I am glad buddy. You have managed to develop some common sense and exert some self-control (don't reply this post).

^God (no pun intended) didn't bestow with those Somali qualities?

^Aight, let's leave it there.

^Considering this man's situation, my problems seems trivial. How is stating this take away from his situation?

US offers millions in bounty for Somali Islamists By MATTHEW LEE Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. officials say the Obama administration will offer up to $33 million in rewards for information about top members of an Islamist extremist group in Somalia linked to al-Qaida. The rewards for the leaders of the al-Shabab militia movement will be announced Thursday by the State Department, The bounties will be administered by the department's Rewards for Justice program. It will be first time the program has offered rewards for members of al-Shabab, which is accused of terrorist attacks in Somalia, Uganda and Kenya. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the bounties have not yet been announced. The program will offer up to $7 million for al-Shabab's founder, up to $5 million for three of his main associates and up to $3 million for two other top members. Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47714694#.T9AOGNXYhzE

A moment of self-reflection and awareness and appreciation for this man strength in the face of adversity and you managed turn this into something else.

U.S. officials say the Obama administration will offer up to $33 million in rewards for information about top members of an Islamist extremist group in Somalia linked to al-Qaeda. The rewards for the leaders of the al-Shabab militia movement will be announced Thursday by the U.S. State Department. The bounties will be administered by the department's Rewards for Justice program. It will be the first time the program has offered rewards for members of al-Shabab, which is accused of terrorist attacks in Somalia, Uganda and Kenya. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the bounties have not yet been announced. The program will offer up to $7 million for al-Shabab's founder, up to $5 million for three of his main associates and up to $3 million for two other top members. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/06/06/us-rewards-somali-militants.html

Aadan Jugle;839454 wrote: There was no such a thing called sool or seprate clan-province, it was made in 1984?? tell me why it was made? why only Awdal and Sool in 1984?? loool don't act inoccent you know exactly why everything is conspiracy with you...loool

^I came here to point out certain pattern of behavior that new secessionists on site exhibit and from the looks of it, you fit that profile to the letter. And the rest of the stuff you said is just cantarabaqash.

loool@Xaaji adiga iyo aniga isfahaney laakiin baptize secessionist newbies before they start posting angry threads. Aadan....Your obsession with Kacaanka proves my point and your assumption of those disagree with you were indoctrinated by kacaanka don't leave lot of room for discussion. You already made your mind and want to just vent.

Moon....And burahadeer with his genocidal tendencies praying for war so he could wipe out people. Now, he's his on mission of Somali revivalism though motivated by anti-Arab sentiments. loool..see already our new friend is full of buuto faan badan iyo feer ironically qualities found in new Pland kids. Aadan...there's no subject to be discussed. You are talking from place of anger-hard to rationalize and engage someone fuming and blowing off steam.

LOL@Aadan Aw Xiin....Aadan is part of pattern of any secessionist that joins SOL-angry, at times bitter and obsessed with kacaan while selling us the idea of democratic Somaliland but you push their buttons on issues of SOOL and secession, their ugly qabyaalad like any other Somalis comes to town. I give him couple months to mellow down. What did our dear friend XX used to say, dadkaa guuray dhulka.....

^I hate NGO's. I have seen what they done to our people in Dadaab and Nairobi. In anycase, I hope things come to an end peacefully in August.