Mukulaalow;816603 wrote: Rudy-qabiid huh. anyway I watched the whole debate and the two gents seem to be civilized, yes they are mentioning qabiil name, but hey everything is based on Qabiil in Somalia we can not deny that. I remember in 2005 in a town outside London I was working with another Somali guy, and he suddenly started talking about the demography of the town and I vividly remember he told me there are two English tribes living in this town and he told me their names. imagine that, we even know white man's Qabiil. You think is great to tell the world your qabiil has more land than their counterparts on tv?

^People like me, huh? If one claims his qabiil is better than another or better yet his qabiil is a mjority, one is qabiilist.

The Qabiil thing is getting more popular by the day. Watch these two fools debating that their qabiil is bigger and owns more tuulos than the other qabiil.

First thing first, Naxwe maxaa lagu dhahaa Somali?

The Tigrays were a ragtag militia in 1991 and you welcome them to the motherland, am I missing something here?

peasant;815801 wrote: We have talked about this many many times and xabashis are in the country as we speak now and they are now liberators to some as opposed to being invaders which was the case in the past. Yo go figure what have changed.. The only fella that supports Xabashi's current invasion is Oba Hilowle. He also opposed them in 2006. Nevertheless, 6K people were killed by Xabashis in that year with the request of late Yey. Crimes against humanity!

peasant;815793 wrote: Do innocent people take up arms against their government and do they demand anarchy to prevail or hinder progress for silly reasons? Their government? Since when Xabashis became their government?

^Who killed the 6K that died in 2006/2007?

OK, for argument's sake, lets say the guy died while Muslim. Now, who here can deny bis disastrious crimes? Who wants to tell us he has not committed the crime of murdering 6K innocent Somalis?

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Maadddeey, ha is daalin waxa meesha ka socdo waa caruurnimo. Af baa la rabaa in denbiile denbigiisa lagu qariyo. The culimaa made it clear. If someone makes an illegal sex, that person is zaani. If someone brings gaalo with him to fight the Muslims, that person is murtad. If cali or cabdi does one of those actions, cali or cabdi is either zaani or murtad. This is not a rocket science.

Awesomeness!

This (calanka xabashida excluded) is one of the greatest Dhaantos I have seen these days. Enjoy:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL@this thread. Waar wiilkayagu waa geesi bey sheekadu gaadhay eeggana. Bal daawada this video: Look at 2:06 of the video. It is indeed a telling.

Xaaji Xunjuf;812235 wrote: Its looks like the onlf flag only upside down. Yea this guy thinks he can fool the locals with the upside down onlf flag lol

MoonLight1;812861 wrote: Zack you seem to be playing games with something very big in front of Allah. To call somebody who was saying "Lailaha Ilalah" a murtad is not as easy as your making. Yes islam condemns those who betray muslims and fight for the non muslims, but its all about the NIYAH or intentions and that is what Shaikh Omar faruq said, for example if you are fighting for the Ethiopian side for money, or safety, or jobs, then you might be a sinner , but you are not a murtad, and the proof of that is the companion who wrote a letter to Quraish in the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) warning Quraish about the prophets war intentions, when his message was intercepted and was asked why he did it, he said "to save his family in Mekkah" then Omar (RA) said to the prophet, let me kill this Munafiq, but the prophet (PBUH) told him No. So its all about your intention with non believers, You kinda need to take your own advice. The Zack has never called specific person a Murtad. If you are saying he did, prove it. However, Murtadnimo does exist. The deen is very clear. There are specific actions that make one a murtad. For example, if you call the Salat some names, you are a murtad. So one can't tell us there is not murtadnimo, period. The Sheikh has said those who come with infidels and fight on their side are murtads.

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kingofkings;812849 wrote: stop dodging everybody's questions. where do the so call culuma you speak of stand on the issue of the current president whom they supported continuing on the legacy of Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) May Allah grant him Paradise. Open a thread for that and I shall address that. This thread is about Yey, the dead criminal.

It appears that northerners just woke up. It is 1991 for them now. Qabiil vs Qabiil.

Atarisho, Is it fair to say that you are rebuffing the "murtad" part of the article. Let's just say the guy wasn't murtad. Now, do you agree that he has murdered thousands of innocent Somalis right in their own homes? Moonlight,

Sheikh's don't say specific person is gaal or not, they define the actions of murtads. I never said Sh. Cumar specifically named Yey, re-read what I posted with objectivity. Sh Cumar: "any one who is with Mele Zenawi is kaffir like him..." "May Allah give them victory(Islamic courts)" http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/28416-Sh-Cumar-Faruq-about-the-jihad-in-somalia-any-one-who-allys-with-Melezen-is-kaffir?highlight=faaruuq Now, the question is why are you defending one of Somalia's worst criminals?

Atirisho;812813 wrote: Let me ask you a question. Do you consider Caydiid, Sheikh Sharif, Ali Mahdi, abdiqasim Salad Hassan, Xabsade apostates or is that title only reserved for Abdullahi Yusuf? I still what to know what Culuma you are talking about. You dragged Shiekh Cumar Faruq (AUN) name into this, but you are yet to provide an evidence. You can't denounce someone of their faith and come here with hearsay. Abdullahi Yusuf (AUN) talked about people like you who called him apostate. It is unfortunate that people have to resort to that but I hope you understand that you are reducing this danbi. The man was born muslim, he lived as one and died as one. Anything else said about him doesn't really matter! First off we are not here to discuss about Ceydiid or Shariif, this thread is clearly for Yey. You should know that we discuss one topic one time here, we don't like to jump around all over the place . I will provide Sh. Cumar's response, the question is will you respect that. I bet you will claim other Culumaas have said otherwise LOL. Adeer this is simple logic, it aint rocket science. The man MURDERED more than 6,000 Somalis in their own homes via the Xabashi tanks. Some of his words were "Baddaan raacineynaa". You can't defend the undefendable. Pray for him instead of trying to hide the crimes.

Mooge;812801 wrote: ^ ma ardada soomaliyeed ee qalinjebsay oo u duceyn lahayd baad pirates ku sheegaysaa? zack maxaa ku dhacay. Sorry bro, midbaan ka xanaajinayay. I am happy for the students,may allah bless them.

^The deen has clear stances on a lot of things, the Culumaa know deen. Am I missing something here?

xiimaaya;812796 wrote: Why is this in politics section? mods are not doing their jobs time to replace them i say... Because it is politics, these are pirates