^^^Horn your logic is quite disturbing, again I will refer you to the Buaale incident which you and I took as facts who reported it? The BBC, VOA, Shabbele, Horn Afrik or was it these same sites who you deny today? Adeer we also spoke to Kismayu and have been told of these tragic incidents commited by your militia men against the locals. Thus its confirmed, and the fact that we know it and are buriying our innocent non combatant dead is a fact, your denails mean nothing The names are there,and cheap talk does not calm the anager of the locals, and the whole clan in Mogadishu, Puntland as well as in the diaspora. Thus expect reprisals once you loose the keys to the city, but when that happens do not expect us to take Gedonet.com seriously. Also dear Horn, the effects of these tragedies and the sheer arrogance from these militia are spreading around Thus what price are you willing to pay for Kismayu? Any no worries

^^^What are you talking about. The author of the piece intention was simple Galkacyu is a city were two major clans meet both from two major clan groupings. These clans are in competition, rivals in politics but managed to live in peace for a long time. Another major example is Ceerigabo, but not many other cities of their sizes have such faultlines. For example, Garowe, La, Cadaado, Guriceel, Beledweyne, Jowhar, Baidoa, all have single clan dominations. Though Abwan seems to make a meal of simple comments.

C/fataax Shaaweeye:- “Waxaan xalay fashilinay dhowr qarax oo lagu carqalladayn lahaa Bandowga lagu soo rogay Magaalladda Muqdishu” Mogadishu, Sabti, Juun 23, 2007 Guddoomiye-ku-xigeenka Maamulka Banaadir ee dhinaca Ammaanka, Md. C/fataax Cumar Shaaweey, ayaa shaaca ka qaaday inay Ciiddamadda Ammaanka ku guuleysteen inay fashiliyeen falal qarxyo ah oo ay Kooxaha wax qarxiya doonayeen inay ku carqalladeeyaan Deganaanshaha Guud ee Magaalladda Muqdishu. Md. C/fataax Shaaweeye, ayaa hadalkaasi ku sheegay mar uu Saxaafadda kula hadlayey Xaruunta Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, wuxuuna xusay inuu si wanaagsan ku hirgelay Amarkii DFKMGS bandowga ugu soo rogtay Magaalladda Muqdishu, inkastoo uu xusay inay Kooxihii wax tuuri jirey ay xalay bambooyin qarxiyeen. Mar uu ka hadlayey goobihii ay xalay kooxahaasi qaraxyadda ka geysteen waxa uu sheegay inay bam ku tuureen Xaafadda Geed-jacayl, isla markaana ay miinooyin ku aaseen degaannadda Gubta iyo Degmadda Xamar-jajab, inkastoo ay Ciiddamadda kala furfureen miinooyinkaasi. Dhinaca kale, Afhayeenka Warfaafinta ee Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, Md. Maxamed Muxiyaddiin Cali, ayaa sheegay inuu Bandowga si fiican xalay uga dhaqan galay Magaalladda Muqdishu, kadib, markii ay Ciiddamadda Ammaanka iyo dadweynaha ku nool gobalka Banaadir iska kaashadeen sidii loo hirgelin lahaa Amarka Bandowga ee ka soo baxay Guddiga Ammaanka Qaranka iyo Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir. Md. Maxamed Muxiyaddiin Cali, oo shir jaraa’id ku qabtay Xarunta Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, waxa kaloo uu ka hadlay dhowr goobood oo miinooyin lagu aasay, balse ay Ciiddamadda Ammaanka kala furfureen, wuxuuna tusaale ahaan u soo qaatay Deegaanka Gubta iyo Degmadda Xamar-jajab oo lagu aasay miinooyin loo soo bandhigay Saxaafadda. Afhayeenka Warfaafinta ee Maamulka Gobalka Banaadir, Md. Maxamed Muxiyaddiin Cali, ayaa waxaa uu saadaalin ku bixiyey inay maalmaha soo socda Magaalladda Muqdishu ku soo laaban doonto Ammaankii lagu yaqiinay Caasimadda Muqdishu. Somaliweyn Media Center (SMC) Muqdisho

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Muqdisho: Dib u dhiskii lagu waday xarunta lagu qaban lahaa shirka oo la dhameeyay 24. June 2007 Muqdisho(AllPuntland)- Waxaa soo gabagabooway dhismihii ka socday xarunta lagu wado in lagu qabto shirka dib u heshiisiinta ee bartamaha bisha soo socoto ka furmi doona xarunta gaadiidka Booliska ee magaalada Muqdisho. Mar aan xarunta Gaadiidka Booliska aan booqday ayaa waxaa ka muuqday dhismooyin cusub iyo dhismo horay aan halkaasi ugu dhisneyn, waxaana lagu soo kordhiyay dhismooyin kala duwan. Wasiirka dib u heshiisiinta ayaa isagana sheegay in gebi ahaanba la soo gabagabeeyay dhismihii ka socday xarunta lagu qabanayo shirka dib u heshiisiinta ee dowladdu ku dhawaaqday, wuxuuna Maxamed Cabdi Xayir (Maareeye) uu sheegay in gebi ahaanba la diyaariyay xaruntii shirka lana sugayo waqtiga loo iclaamiyay. Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Federaalka KMG ah ee Soomaaliya Sh. Aaadan Madoobe oo shalay shir jaraa’id ku qabtay magaalada Nayroobi ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in xiligii loogu talagalay uu qabsoomayo shirka, isla markaana xili kale uusan dib u dhac ku imaan doonin, wuxuuna Sh. Aadan Madoobe uu sheegay in Guddoomiyaha shirka dib u heshiisiinta uu kala hadlay arrimaha shirka. Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali AllPuntland, Muqdisho

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Again I see nothing but apologies for clan militia. The men who died who's name are listed are facts [b[ just like those killed in Buaale[/b] Thus the militia killed unarmed business men and this is not the firts time since April. I say, come clean people because when this type of news happens and there is no action against those who commited such crimes, then what? When clan vengence comes gainst innocent clansmen from Gedo, what will you say? Horn, more than a couple of news outlets more reputable than Gedonet.com have reported this. As they reported the murders in Buaale. Do not insult us by making one case a fact and the other fiction. Again what price are you guys willing to pay?

Horn its simple, your militias did this out of anger after the deaths of their men at the hands of the local troops in the western entrance towards the city. Thus out of anger you punish the locals, raping the sisters of the soldiers ? The news is factual with names and details adeer, not Gedonet.com clan hearsay. Hotel Kismaayo iyo Hotel Midnimo ayaa lagala baxay 7 gaari waxaana lagu dilay isku darka labada hotel shan qofood oo heyb ahaan ka soo jeeda dadka deegaanada, iyadoo sidoo kalena ay tacadiyo ka dhaceen xaafaddaha Calanleey iyo Aargada halkaasoo lagu jir dilay ganacsato heyb ahaan reer deegaanka ah oo la kala yirhaado Maxamed Xamari, Aadan Diiriye, Black, Saciid Caddow iyo kuwo kale. Your clan militias have killed enough innocent men, there will be repurcussion.But we do not murder business men, for example how may of your clan folk are residing in Garowe, Galkacyu, Bossaso, LA today ? Be careful saxib, and watch the words you use in this thread.

This clashes will not end till the locals get their city back from the JVA militias. Nothing to do with the TFG or Yey, the clan armour is much more potent than anytime and our greatest enemies are defeated. This little group will loose Kismayu sooner than later.

Adeer, I am disapointed with this group, remmeber how they cried about the mistreatment of their soldiers in Buaale? Now they do this and expect people to sympathise with them?

Xasan Dheere is responsiblefor this and will pay a price. The life of his thugs are not more important than our civilians.

Shacabka Kismayo oo maanta loo gaystey dhac, dill iyo kufsi 23 Jun 23, 2007 - 7:37:29 AM Maleeshiyo beleedyada ka arimiya magaalada Kismayo ayaa maanta xadgudubyo ka dhan ah bini'adnimada u gaysatey dad rayid ah oo la hayb soocey kuwaas oo aan ku lug laheyn dagalada halkaas ka dhacey maalintii shaley.. Maleeshiya beesha **** ayaa saakey bilaabey in ay galaan guryaha iyo meheradaha ay leeyihiin dadka ku abtirsada beelaha ***** halkaas oo ay ka qaadanayeen wixii hanti ah isla markaana waxyeelo u gaysanayay dadka rayidka ah. Biliqadaan oo aheyd mid aan loo abaayeelin ayaa waxaa dadka rayidka laga dhacey dhamaan wixii gadiid ahaa oo ku xeraysnaa gurhayahooda iyo goobaha ganacsiga sida Hotelada iyo Bakhaarada. Dadkaan rayidka ah oo dagaaladaii ka dhacey shaley magaalada Kismayo kala kulmey dhimasho iyo dhaawac ayaa maanta waayay gadiid ay ku soo aastaan maydadkooda madama laga bililiqeystay sida GO u sheegey qof ay xaaladan la soo gudboonaatey. Dhinaca kale biliqadaan ayaa waxa ay maleeshiyaadkan ku qaadanayeen dhamaan wixii qiimo leh oo ay ka helaan guryahas iyo goobaha ganacsiga sida lacagta iyo dahabka. Sida ay warsidaha Garowe Online u sheegeen dad rayid ah oo diidey magacooda ayaa xaley waxaa kufsi badan loogu gaystey xaafadaha Calanley gabdho farabadan kuwaas oo lagu bartilmaameedsanyo haybtooda. Qofkaan rayidka ah ayaa sheegey in dhawaaq iyo oohinta dumarkaan la maqllayey ilaa saakey waaberigii. Tacdiga lagu hayo shacabkaan ayaa DFKMG ah ilaa hadda wax war ah ka soo saareen isla markaana aysan wax ka qaban odayaasha beelaha **** iyo xubnaha kale oo sheganaya in ay tirsanyihiin dowlada kuwaas oo ku sugan magaalada Ksiamyo.

Kismaayo: Xadgudubyo ka dhan ah Bini’aadanimada iyo bililiqo ka dhacday magaalada Kismaayo. 23. June 2007 Kismaayo(AllPuntland)- Tan iyo intii ay socdeen dagaalada mudooyinkan ka soo cusboonaaday nawaaxiga gobolka J/Hoose oo dagaalkii ugu kululaa uu shalay ka dhacay magaalada Kismaayo kaasoo geystay khasaaro isugu jira dhimasho, dhaawac, barakac iyo burbur hantiyadeed. Sidoo kale waxaa magaalada KIsmaayo ka dhacay Bililiqo xoogan oo loo geystay goobaha muhiimka ah ee wax lagu tabayo kuwaasoo ay ku kacayeen maliishiyooyin aan cidina ka amar qaadan oo fariisin u ah magaalada Kismaayo. Hotel Kismaayo iyo Hotel Midnimo ayaa lagala baxay 7 gaari waxaana lagu dilay isku darka labada hotel shan qofood oo heyb ahaan ka soo jeeda dadka deegaanada, iyadoo sidoo kalena ay tacadiyo ka dhaceen xaafaddaha Calanleey iyo Aargada halkaasoo lagu jir dilay ganacsato heyb ahaan reer deegaanka ah oo la kala yirhaado Maxamed Xamari, Aadan Diiriye, Black, Saciid Caddow iyo kuwo kale. Sidoo kale maliishiyooyinkaas ayaa waxay qaateen gaari ay laheyd xaaska Maxamed Diiriye oo lagu magacaabo Nuuro madaxna ka ah Kastamka magaalada Kismaayo. Dhinaca kale waxaa xabsiga weyn ee ku yaala magaalada Kismaayo shalay ka baxsaday tiro maxaabiis ah oo gaareysa 37 Maxbuus oo qaarkood ay ahaayeen kuwo gacan ku dhiiglayaal ah sida uu sheegay Taliyaha xabsiga Col. Cabdullaahi Farhaye. Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali AllPuntland, Muqdisho

Clan, Theocracy, and Economic Issues Sheikh Aweys’ repeated announcements that he planned to take over the ethnic Somali regions of Ethiopia and Kenya to form a "Greater Somalia," was not only intended to threaten Ethiopia and Kenya, it was particularly intended to rally Somali sentiment against a perceived external enemy and to fire up Somali nationalism in an effort to divert attention of theMogadishu clans from their internal issue of dealing with increasing His sub-clans domination through the mechanism of the Islamic Courts. This became a structural problem of the SCIC that it could not easily resolve, as it was not simply a matter of political power sharing, but one of fundamental South Mogadishu economic interests. One of the key issues that has always impeded any real progress towards a comprehensive peace in Somalia is that the........ are relative newcomers to Mogadishu and the South. They came in 1991-92 with General Aidiid from the poverty-stricken, drought-devastated pastoral lands of central Somalia to take over South Mogadishu and the agricultural lands of Lower Shabelle and Lower Juba. During 1990-1995, Mogadishu changed from being a multi-clan capital with a non-H majority to aN occupied city—as most of the non-CLAN population fled. The Xasam Dahir Clan, in particular, took over the most developed part of the city. This leads to a major problem for any future administration: the issue of land ownership in Mogadishu, particularly South Mogadishu, Lower Shabelle and the Lower Juba Valley. The bottom line is that the former owners of urban property in South Mogadishu, and rural property in Lower Shabelle and Lower Juba, will want their property back. It is unlikely that the Xasan Dahir clan will be prepared to return it. This has made it difficult for the SCIC to build reliable constituencies in the non-H regions of southern Somalia. It also makes retaining control of the SCIC or whatever government might arise, an imperative for the effective protection of economic interests. The awareness of this was always likely to ensure strong opposition from other clans to Xasan Dahir's control of government, even when cloaked in the guise of a supposedly non-clan theocracy.

Meanwhile, the SCIC leadership was well aware of the tendency of Somali clan coalitions and agreements to collapse. Having failed to gain total......Mogadishu support, it desperately needed to build influence outside the.... area. But its efforts to set up Islamic courts in Puntland and other areas outside its control had been blocked, and its establishment of Islamic courts in the occupied southern regions, depended on the continued presence of the SCIC militia, a situation that became unsustainable.

The Turbulent South and the SCIC/ICU When the representatives of the TFG and the SCIC met in Khartoum on 22 June 2006, the ICU agreed that it recognized the TFG as the legal and legitimate government of Somalia. For its part, the TFG recognized that the SCIC represented a political reality in Somalia. Having agreed on these points, the SCIC rejected them immediately on the return of its delegation to Mogadishu. At the same time, they continued their rapid advance to the North—aimed at seizing control of much of the rest of the country and setting up their own regime. Actually, the peace talks in Khartoum, facilitated by the Arab League, with its own pro-SCIC agenda to push, were never likely to get very far. For the SCIC, this was primarily a means of diverting attention and buying time to occupy as much as possible of the country, while discouraging any potential efforts to reinforce the TFG. At the same time, certain Arab League counties, and others, were using the talks to divert attention from their own intensification of arms supply and training for the SCIC militias. While the better-known extremists were initially keeping a lower profile, it was quite rational to avoid alarming potential victims or prematurely provoking known adversaries. Having taken the strategic town of Beledweyne, over 300 kms to the northwest of Mogadishu, without a fight but through a show of overwhelming force, this strategy seemed to be working well. But in the wake of inconclusive peace talks in Khartoum the announcement of the transformation of the ICU into a new organization led by Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys left little room for wishful thinking about the “moderate” intentions of the Council of the Islamic Courts (ICU)/Supreme Council of the Islamic Courts (SCIC). The SCIC leader, ex-Colonel Hassan Dahir Aweys, had long before established his terrorist credentials in the region in the mid-1990’s when his Al-Ittihad group carried out terrorist attacks in Ethiopia from bases in Somalia’s Gedo region. When the bases were eventually destroyed, a number of Arab jihadists were among the casualties. But, Sheikh Aweys, the commander of the Al-Ittihad militia was able to escape to Mogadishu, where he began rebuilding his organization. The Al-Ittihad logistics base at Ras Kamboni, a small dhow port on the coast of the southern-most tip of Somalia near the Kenyan town of Lamu—a key entry-point for Al-Ittihad’s arms supplies and Arab trainers sent by their supporters in the Gulf—was left untouched. The Ras Kamboni base may have also been the entry point for some of the arms and terrorists later infiltrated into Kenya’s coast region. It was reportedly abandoned, following the Al-Qaeda attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, when Ittihad leaders feared retaliation from the Americans and deemed Mogadishu a much safer place to hide. More recently, however, since the ICU takeover in Mogadishu, one of the Ittihad militia leaders, Hassan “Turki,” was reported passing through the Juba Valley from Ras Kamboni with a group of militia, moving towards Mogadishu. The initially "moderate" stance of the ICU soon gave way to the much harsher reality of hard-core fundamentalists with increasingly visible similarities to Afghanistan’s Taliban, who along with Al-Qaeda, reportedly trained some of them. Their extremist Salafi concepts of Islam tend to clash with the more tolerant Sufi traditions of Somali Muslims. The ICU militias, having spread across most of central Somalia, launched an attack to the south in late September and captured the port city of Kismayo near the border of Kenya. For some foreign “experts,” the real surprise came after the June 2006 defeat of the Mogadishu warlords, when Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, who served as the moderate face of the ICU and front man for Aweys, was sidelined, and the ICU suddenly transformed into a new “Supreme Council of the Islamic Courts” (SCIC), headed by Hassan Dahir Aweys, the founder of Al-Itihad Al-Islamiya, which carried out a series of terrorist attacks in Ethiopia in the 1990’s. For Somalis, the implications took longer to materialize, but were, in many ways, less surprising. The conflict in Mogadishu soon turned into an intricate combination of inter-clan and intra-clan conflicts, with fighting between.............. subclans, and among both. The battle between the SCIS and the Mogadishu warlords was also a battle between two key subclans, the. In the event, the South Mogadishu won. It also established that the SCIS is essentially a ..........clan organization, largely controlled by the sub-clan, and within it, the....lineage. The perception of this among the..... and other clans posed an important constraint on the growth of the SCIS beyond the .......... clan and reportedly has contributed to tensions between different sub-clans of the .

The Rise of the SCIC The residents of Mogadishu and other central Somali towns had welcomed the expulsion of the warlords, but their replacement by the SCIC, much less so. The warlords had made their lives difficult for more than a decade and they hoped for something better. They were happy to see the warlords go, but they were not expecting the Islamic Courts to be transformed into an armed political group attempting to impose a fundamentalist ‘Salafi’ version of Islam on Somali society. The new Islamist rulers had brought a measure of peace, but also a new type of clerical control and limitation of individual freedom that most Somalis neither believed in nor could accept—and one very open to abuse. Mogadishu had represented the face of a stateless Somalia, where brutal warlords ruled in lawless fiefdoms. In much of southern Somalia, similar conditions prevailed, where those same warlords, alone or in alliance with their local equivalents, had subjugated local populations—often from different clans—and forcefully appropriated land and resources. But that is not the whole story. Further north, in central Somalia, the origin of most of the Mogadishu warlords, many local communities had already restored a measure of peace, and established their own sub-clan based governance mechanisms. Here, the legitimacy of the factions was being challenged and alternative forms of leadership and authority were beginning to emerge, with new leaders ruling with the broad consent of their people and supported by legitimate taxes and duties rather than extortion. In Northern Somalia, which comprises the regions least affected by the collapse of the Somali State, and with more than a third of its population, this process had gone much further.2 In the Northwest, the former British Somaliland declared its independence in 1991, and went about the difficult but ultimately successful process of rebuilding its Somaliland Republic, with a robust and stable democracy, and a growing economy. In the Northeast, the regions largely inhabited by the ....clan restored peace and a measure of law and order and established their own autonomous state under the name of Puntland, with a functional government and economy and little connection with the stateless turbulence of central and southern Somalia.3 In the Northeast, Northwest and in the RRA regions of southwestern Somalia, the aggression of the SCIC and its efforts to forcibly impose a Taliban-like hardcore fundamentalist regime on populations under its control came to pose the principal threats to human security. Both Somaliland and Puntland came out strongly against any establishment of the SCIC’s “Islamic courts” in their territory. The Puntland Authorities quickly deployed their troops to their border with central Somalia to repulse any incursions by the SCIC militias. This is where a peacekeeping force with a proper mandate might have made a contribution to peace. The UN finally approved sending such a force, but, hindered by opposing voices in the Security Council, it did so far too late, when it was no longer relevant. The SCIC was highly dependent on its strategy of threatening to bring foreign jihadis if a peacekeeping mission should come to Somalia. In fact, they were already bringing in contingents of foreign jihadis, with weaponry and terrorist technology that has increasingly been used in terrorist attacks within Somalia. Many of these foreign terrorists fled to Kismayo with their SCIC hosts. Some were believed to be heading to Ras Kamboni, from where they could try to escape by boat. The SCIC and some of their foreign advocates claimed that the Islamist group controlled the majority of Somalia’s population. But this was never true. They controlled Mogadishu; eventually most of the.......-populated regions of central Somalia, and the non-....... regions overrun by their militias in the South. But they continued to talk peace while conquering new territory. If no effective measures had been taken to stop them, they just might have eventually controlled the majority of Somalia’s population. At that point, in view of the known recklessness of Sheikh Aweys, it is entirely possible that he might undertake the second part of his frequently announced agenda, that is, taking over the areas of the countries bordering on Somalia that are inhabited by nearly half of the region’s ethnic Somali population. That would almost certainly have led to a devastating regional war. As it is, he apparently sent his militia on one too many cross-border incursions into Ethiopian territory, even after being warned.

Flawed Sheikhs and Failed Strategies: Lessons of the Jihadist Debacle in Somalia By Seifulaziz Milas Flawed Sheikhs and Failed Strategies: Lessons of the Jihadist Debacle in Somalia By Seifulaziz Milas Published on: Feb 20, 2007 Printable VersionIntroduction Launching attacks across other countries’ borders is often a serious mistake, as it entitles them to return the compliment. You cannot rationally expect to just go home and claim sovereignty. It is a lesson that Sheikh Aweys would have done well to learn at a much earlier stage, when after launching terrorist attacks into Ethiopia from bases in Somalia, he had to flee to Ras Kamboni and Mogadishu, when Ethiopia eventually responded. The leader of Somalia’s Supreme Council of the Islamic Courts (SCIC), the Al-Qaeda linked Islamist group of Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, whose militia over-ran much of southern and central Somalia, between June and December 2006, used an initially successful strategy of talking peace and making war. For months, it helped to diffuse resistance, lull opponents into a false sense of security, and divert the attention of regional organizations and the international community from the nature of the SCIS and its potential threat to Somali, regional, and basic human security. The ambivalent attitude of much of the international community, and the engagement of some elements of the Arab League appeared to contribute to the problem. Now the SCIC strategy has run its course, with disastrous results for the SCIC and its followers. The Islamist extremist group tried to jump too far, too fast and wound up taking a very bad fall. On 22 December 2006, following yet another SCIC cross-border incursion into Ethiopian territory, the Ethiopian Government issued a final warning that was apparently dismissed by the SCIC. Ethiopia reacted on 24 December, with multiple strikes against the SCIC militias. On the same day, the Associated Press quoted an Ethiopian Foreign Ministry spokesman as saying that Ethiopia was taking measures to counterattack the SCIC and foreign terrorist groups.1 Following the initial clashes, the SCIC militias were soon in full flight across much of central and southern Somalia, abandoning their positions ahead of the advance of the Ethiopian and Somali Transitional Federal Government forces. Clearly, the SCIC policy of talking peace and making war had reached its limits. For the previous five months, they had expanded their sway to towns across most of central and southern Somalia, by the simple expedient of arriving in towns and communities with massive displays of armed force that local residents had found too dangerous to resist. The Ethiopian response was hard and fast, and the SCIC militias quickly lost their will to fight, abandoning after town before the fast-moving Ethiopian and TFG forces could reach them. On 28 December, the TFG forces with Ethiopian backup entered Mogadishu, to the cheers of the population, while others continued to chase the remnants of the SCIC and their foreign allies, who had already fled toward the southern port city of Kismayo. During the night of 31 December, the SCIC abandoned Kismayo without a fight and fled under cover of darkness, towards a small dhow port at Ras Kamboni and the nearby Kenyan border. During their brief occupation of central and southern Somalia, the SCIC leadership had thoroughly alienated most of the population by its erratic behavior and attempts to impose an extremist version of Islam—unknown in Somalia. They distinguished themselves in the commission of diverse crimes against humanity, including shooting young people for watching videos of football games, ordering the execution of any Somalian who did not pray five times daily, and forcible recruitment of young children into their militia forces, along the lines of the “Lord’s Resistance Army” (LRA) in Uganda. Here there might be a useful role for the International Criminal Court (ICC) as regards members of the SCIC leadership who may have managed to escape.

Nothing tired about my lines adeer. And my confidance has not changed in fact I have explained above this time it is the WAAMO local clans who ahve the power, the money and influance not only in Puntland, the two Juba's, NFD but also Mogadishu. How then do you wish for clan war? Or are you playing the Ahmed Diriye role now of being blind to the truth? Come on saxib, you are a small clan, no braver than any as proven by Hiiraale [bravest leader] and Barre[greatest leader]. Thus Yey, is proving to be a leader by keeping calm, and not get emotive regarding his sub-clans wishes to annihiliate the Gedo militias.

Adeer will the UN security council do? The UN and the Flow of Arms to the SCIC The UN Security Council Monitoring Group—responsible for monitoring the UN’s ineffective 1992 embargo on supply of arms to Somalia—reported that several countries had been involved in the supply of arms to the SCIC, and through it, to the ONLF and similar groups in Ethiopia. Those mentioned are generally the usual culprits: Egypt, which has long had its particular interest in destabilization in Ethiopia and reportedly in seeking a foothold in Somalia for that purpose, and certain of its Arab League colleagues in support of the Egyptian effort. From the article: Flawed Sheikhs and Failed Strategies: Lessons of the Jihadist Debacle in Somalia By Seifulaziz Milas Published on: Feb 20, 2007 As far as Egypt is concerned, this is nothing new. Historically, efforts at destabilizing Ethiopia—to prevent it from using its Nile waters—have always been part of Egypt’s foreign policy.

^^^Adeer of course he will because unlike what he thought the Egyptians could do nothing when the US eagle arrived on the scene. Anyhow provide the link of the proof of what he said, English would be nice as well.

^^^Adeer keep dreaming your militias never came up against the might of Puntland, because as you well know 95% of the troops from that region are in Baidoa Baracks and Mogadishu helping the governemnt. While all the Gedo militias ran to Kismayu as if its the holly grail. Thus Afgaduuds failure to re-arm the locals and his lack of focus resulted in this debacle. And Yusuf ordered him to return. Adeer Yusuf does not double deal, he finishes of enemies, Hiiraale has lost favour with the old man hence him running around the dusty poor villages of Gedo. Bixi is an opportunisitc puppet who will toe the line. The Kismayu debacle focuses your groups energies on it while the mop up of Mogadishu continues. Yey doe not want to looese Gedo support But never think it will be at the expense of the much larger clans of Puntland and Afmadow. They have much more influance, money and power than the Gedo groups. Who have been, since Siyad was toppled nothing but side kicks to the amibitions of their larger more powerful neighbours from Galgaduud.

Adeer, Horn keep toing the line, or come out and become rebels and see the bullets flie. Even Farataag being treated in Adis stated that. “Markii hore dagaalku wuxuu u dhaxeeyay guutada koowaad iyo mida sadaxaad, hase yeeshee waxaa dhinac ka soo galay oo dagaalada sii huriyay kooxihii wadaadada ee haraadigii maxaakiimta, xiriirna la leh Al-Qaacida taasoo muujineysa tiknimada lagu qabtay dagaalka oo qaarkood uu lahaa Xasan Turki” ayuu yiri Col. Fartaag oo ku sugan magaalada Addis Ababa ee dalka Itoobiya. Taliyuhu wuxuu kaloo sheegay in dagaalka u dhaxeeyo ciidamada dowladda dhexdoodu uu yahay mid fikir oo ku kooban gacan ku heynta iyo maamulka Jubbooyinka ayna dhankooda ayna dhankooda diyaar u yihiin in wax walba lagu xaliyo wada hadal, isagoo intaa raaciyay in dagaaladan ka hor ay iyagu diyaar u ahaayeen waan waantii uu waday wafdigii uu hoggaaminayey wasiirka arrimaha gudaha Md. Gacma Dheere isla markaana iminka iyagu weerarka lagu soo qaaday waa sida uu hadalka u yiriyee. So toe the line, The fact that Yey today has a much bigger army and troops than the courts in their days ever did . What chance would your militia have but for you to run as the bravest man from Gedo Hiiraale did a while back. Or as the man who ran Somaliafor 21 years was escaped out of Mogadishu in that most famous vehicle of all the Donkey. Thus lets not get carried away, Afgaduud is a minor pawn in Yusuf armour and he has learned that great lesson in organisation structure, do not disobey the boss.

So be careful what your stance is like adeer Xasan Dheere dont ever insult HE President Yusuf Yey.

Originally posted by Allamagan: balse game-ka Yeey lala cayaarayo ayaa ah in marnaba afkoodu ka soo bixin dowlada waanu ka soo horjeednaa Good call. Dont' ever say you are against the government. Or else you will face Yeey's wrath. The President has refused to intervene and has distanced himself from all the calls from Kismayo but all these Gedo/JVA groups do is keep insisting he is part of this. Shame, shame! If the President was interested in Kismayo's clan wars, he wouldn't bring back Gedo boys in dignity after the ICU humiliated Hiiraale and captured the highest reported technikal’s in the history of Somalia’s civil war. He gave your straving boys food in Baidoa, military uniforms, training and all the weapon you wanted. I don’t think he disserves this from your lot. Its a shame real shame.. The thousands of Puntland boys in Daynuunaay, Manaas and Balli-Doogle who are playing cards there are not interested in clan wars against Gedo people just like the President isn't. They see the pig picture of bring back a true government to this devastated nation, and Kismayo is left for the local Waamo boys to battle the few thugs there. If you ever say are against the TFG, Yeey's Dhafoorqiiq army will march in no time and that won't be a good news to the clan militias in Kismayo. For now, they must stay away from anything that can damage "good" relationship with Yeey. As for this latest battle, I am actually surprised. If few un-armed teenagers can capture Kismayo for a full day, causing havoc on their enemies, from the 1500 well-armed goverment trained Gedo clan militia, it really says something about their perceived military strength. Your group has been tested and the result is not promising. Expect big surprises in the future. The Waamo boys are still in the city and its surroundings. even in the airport today is in their hands They are emboldened more than ever my friend. Tonight they are not sad because Kismayo was never in their hands. They haven't faced heavy losses either. Tonight the worry is with the Gedo militias. They know they are using their full resources while the Waamo kinsmen are not. In the meantime, keep bragging about your chasing of Afgaduud (who is married to Hiiraale's cousin by the way, and who has refused president’s orders to come to Baidoa). The Puntland as well as TFG full force has not been unleashed on anyone let alone the small ragtag militia trained by and armed by the TFG. If one is not carefull, Kismayu might become a prison for the junior JVA as Mogadishu has become for their former masters. Hence the "support of the governemnt" from the militia bosses like Xasan Dheere and Hiiraale. They know not to get carried away and end up like Goobaale, Cirfo the men who chased them out before Yey gave his support and helped them regain their dignity.