Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Given that Sheikh Shariif hails from the anarchist section of the Somali community, he has done well. Yey is coming from the fiercily clan-loyal Puntland. The two cannot be compared. Weak asinine argument, Sharif Ahmed is unable to hold a single village, thus proving his whole support base is as fictitious as his old title of Shiekh.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Results matter abti. here. The reality is that Sheikh Sharif, with his failings, still command a huge support of the Somali people. Militarily, it is too premature to judge him. Out of his seven months reign, he has only been in active fighting mode for not more than 3 months (2??). Intii hore he was making peace with those who care for Somalia. What utter nonsense if Al Shabaab are weak to stand against a few hundred AMISOM troops and this man and his government has the huge support of the Somali people as you why does he not controla single village in Somalia? Why was Yey able to visit major towns from Garowe, Bossaso, galkacyu, Beledweyne, Jowhar, Baidoa and Sharif Ahmed was stuck in villa Somalia all this time. Reality matters adeer, you have no empirical evidence for the simple utterances you make. The fact that Yey had Puntland support 100% and warriors who traveled all the why to the south to defend him matters. That Sharif in less than a few months lost his hometown and villages also is a fact beyond dispute. Come again you are talking rubbish again.

A&T: Yey is history and already he is vindicated the man never lost a single town in his base, and devastated the opposition to such an extent that they were refugees in Asmara or hiding in the bush. Spare us the recycling of the old laymen arguments. The fact of the matter is the individuals I mentioned failed in every sense, Nur Cade’s peace caravan which is cheered by confused individuals on SOL brought more devastation, more amputations and more displacement than ever before. Thus my position is to highlight that fact. Today hundreds of thousands have fled, yesterday alone 45 individuals died and nothing was gained. Thus what is your point, Yusuf with all the firepower captured the entire country, humbled the opposition. It was Nur Cade, Ahmed Abdisalaan resuscitated these individuals with their “Clan support” talk. Now we have more deaths and destruction and weak tactics. You have no argument adeer, its clear.

A huge turnout indeed, nothing to worry though.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: The real irony is that no somali national government is acceptable to you unless it is headed by a Puntlander. Personally, I wouldn't mind Faroole. He conviced me he is a good Somali. As usual you waffle away, adeer we gave Sharif Ahmed the benefit of the doubt and in 7 months the man turned into a pathetic clown without any tactics let alone strategy or vision. He has turned on everything he once stated to stand for. The Duke will accept any Somali leader from any clan aside from the proven buffoons like Nur Cade, Ahmed Abdisalaan, Hiiraale and of course Sharif Ahmed.

^^^He has two sons and both are not interested, again we need a rethink and a new plan no more ignorant caravan and fake "Mogadishu society" nonsense.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Time is on the side of the government. Yesterday's push just shows you how weak Alshabab is. They will be eliminated soon. They are not enjoying popular empathy as they used to do when the Yey was in charge. Things have changed, Dukey! lool. You are on the verge of being amusing, who pushed AL Shabaab yesterday it sure was not Sharif Hotel. AMISOM stretched their muscles a little bit and then when they went back to barracks, IndaCade and his militias ran back with them. 45 dead and a hundred or so badly injured and not a single street was gained by Sharif Hotel. Time is running out for Mr Hotel, the international community has seen what a weakling the man is and his base has been decimated. A Somali national government is needed, it is essential, the only irony is Sharif Hotel and his corrupt cronies pushed it back a year or so.

AMISOM oo ka qeybqaatay dagaalada ka socda Muqdisho 12 Jul 12, 2009 - 1:21:50 PM Ugu yaraan 45-qof ayaa ku dhintay 125-kalena way ku dhaawacmeen dagaal xoogan oo maalintii labaad Muqdisho ku dhexmaray DF iyo Islaamiyiinta ka horjeeda, waxaana markii ugu horeeyay dagaalka Muqdisho ka qaybgalay ciidamada AMISOM. Inkastoo saraakiil ka tirsan kuwa dowlada ay beeniyeen in dagaalkii maanta ay qayb ka qaateen ciidamada AMISOM ayaa hadana waxaa cadeeyay ka qaybgalka dagaalka Afhayeenka AMISOM Maj. Be-huko Barigye oo saxaafada la hadlay. "Ciidamadeenu waxay maanta ka qaybgaleen dagaalada ka socda Muqdisho ee u dhexeeya mucaaradka iyo DF, waayo Islaamiyiintu waxay kusoo talaabeen diilinta cas oo aan horay uga dignay in laga soo gudbo" ayuu yiri Maj. Barigye. Dowlada Somalia ayaa dhawaanahan waxay codsanaysay in ciidamada AMISOM loo ogolaado inay dagaalada ka qaybqaataan, waxaana dagaalka intii uusan bilaaban ay mucaaradku u jireen Madaxtooyada [Villa Somalia] wax ka yar 1.5-km. Madaafiic aad u xoogan oo lagu garaacay qabo ka tirsan waqooyiga Muqdisho iyo deegaano ka fog ayaa waxay sababeen dhimashada iyo dhaawaca dad rayid ah oo aan wax lug ah ku lahayn dagaalka. "Waxaan dilnay tiro ka badan 40-dagaalyahan oo ka tirsan Al-shabaab, dhankeena waxaa nooga dhintay dagaalka 3-askari, dhowr kalena way nooga dhaawacmeen" ayuu yiri C/fitaax Ibraahim Shaweye oo dagaalka ka qaybqaadanayay. Yuusuf Max'ed Siyaad [indhacadde] oo ka mid ahaa saraakiishii dagaalka hogaaminayay oo shir jaraa'id ku qabtay albaabka hore ee Isbitaalka Kaysaney oo ay gacanta ku hayeen mucaaradka ayaa sheegay inay ka awood roonaadeen mucaaradka. "Dagaalkii maanta wuxuu ahaa sida aad arkaysaa mid aan ka gaarnay guulo aad u badan, waxaana ku qabsanay hub iyo gaadiid dagaal" ayuu yiri Yuusuf Indhacade, oo sheegay in dagaalkii maanta uu amarkiisa lahaa Sh. Shariif. Gantaalo ku dhacay suuqa Bakaaraha ayaa sababay dhaawacyada 5-qof, iyadoo ciidamada dowlada iyo kooxaha kasoo horjeeda ay isku rasaaseeyeen afaafka hore ee suuqa, iyadoo daqiiqado kadib ay rasaastu istaagtay. Afhayeen u hadlay Maxkamadaha Islaamka ee dowlada taabacsan C/risaaq Max'ed Qaylow ayaa shir jaraa'id oo uu qabtay ku sheegay in dagaalkii maanta aysan ka qaybqaadan AMISOM, balse ay iyagu ka gaareen guulo la taaban karo. "Ciidamada AMISOM inaga dagaalka ayay nagala qaybqaateen... dagaalkii maantana wuxuu ahaa mid qorsheysan, waayo mucaaradku waxay Villa Somalia u soo jirsadeen 1-km oo qura" ayuu yiri C/fitaax Shaaweeye oo saxaafada la hadlay. Goobjoogayaal ayaa sheegay inay arkeen kaarayaasha AMISOM oo dagaalka ka qaybqaadanaya; iyagoo haatan ku sugan Isgoyska Farax, Isgoyska Towfiiq iyo deegaanka Galgalato oo dowlada horay looga qabsaday. Dhaawacyada ka dhashay dagaalkii maanta ayaa la dhigay Isbitaalada Keysaney, Madiina iyo Dayniile, iyadoo mucaaradka dowlada ku kacsan ay ka gaabsadeen inay wax hadalo ah ka bixiyaan dagaalkii maanta. Waa markii ugu horeysay oo ay AMISOM qirato inay dagaal fool-ka-fool ah la gashay Islaamiyiinta Somalia, iyadoo kaalmenaysa ciidanka DF, kuwaasoo awood ahaan iyo tayo ahaan aad uga hooseeya kuwa mucaaradka. GAROWE ONLINE

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: Bad days for the Fake General. Sharif is routing Alshabab. So much for faking dawlad doon all these years,duke! Oh my, did you not read the news this morning old boy? As soon as the Amisom tanks left Sharif hotels boys fled, of this is what you and others wanted in a government then you are all Barking mad. Enjoy it the Duke and others are planning for the future one without fake Sharif hotel and his clownish supporters.

Originally posted by Abtigiis &Tolka: War anagaa wax aragnay! War ninkii General Duke ahaa ma dawlad-diid buu isu badalay in a span of months. Halkaa kaga hay Duke, waa meeshaan kal hore marayey!! lool, adeer don't get excited happless Sharif has thrown the government into the gutter. Today he does not control a single village or area and the war is largely between Amisom and Al Qaeda. Yesterday Amisom gained him a few districts as soon ad thier tanks left his militia ran away in panic. Sharif has failed it's time for a rethink.

Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta oo soo buuxiyay goobihii shalay laga saaray kadib markii ay isaga soo carareen Ciidamada Dowladda Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ee dagaalka adag kula jira Dowladda KMG ayaa soo buuxiyay oo dib ula wareegay goobihii shalay laga saaray ee ay ku sugnaayeen maalmihii u dambeeyay kadib markii halkaas isaga carareen Ciidamada Dowladda. Dagaal kooban oo xalay maqribkii iyo galabnimadii shalay ka dhacay aagagii la isku fara saaray ayaa hadana Xoogaga Mucaaradka dib ula wareegeen kadib markii ay la yimaadeen cudud milateri oo dheeraad ah taasoo suura gelisay inay isaga cararaan Ciidamada Dowladda. Goobaha haatan lakala joogo ayaa ah goobihii maalmihii u dambeeyay ee deegaanada waqooyi, waxaana ay yihiin labada dhinac kuwo is hor fadhiyay oo rasaas goos goos is weydaarsanayay. Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ayaa ku sugan Beexaani, Nasiib Buunde, xaafado ka tirsan Shibis, C/casiis iyo Kaaraan, kuwaasoo ahaa meelihii maalmo ka hor la wareegeen isla markaana shalay xoog looga saaray. Afhayeen u hadlay Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ayaa sheegay inay saaka joogaan goobihii maalmihii la soo dhaafay ku sugnaayeen, waxaana uu sheegay inay qabsadeen Isbitaalka Keysaney oo shalay Saraakiil ka tirsan Dowladda ay ka qudbeeyeen. Inkastoo dagaalkii shalay kula wehliyeen Ciidamada Dowladda kuwa AMISOM oo taangiyo watay ayaa hadana shalay casir liiqii ay isaga soo baxeen jiida dagaalka AMISOM, taasoo keentay in Ciidamada Dowladda iyagana soo faarujiyaan. Ma jirto sarkaal u hadlay Dowladda oo shalay guulo caga gaaban noqotay ka sheegatay dagaalada, hase yeeshee Ciidamada Dowladda ayaa ah kuwo looga bartay in meelaha ay qabsadaan ay dib isaga soo baxaan. Hoyga wararka Somaliyed www.Jowhar.com Jowharcom@hotmail.co m Jowharcom@gmail.com

Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta oo soo buuxiyay goobihii shalay laga saaray kadib markii ay isaga soo carareen Ciidamada Dowladda Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ee dagaalka adag kula jira Dowladda KMG ayaa soo buuxiyay oo dib ula wareegay goobihii shalay laga saaray ee ay ku sugnaayeen maalmihii u dambeeyay kadib markii halkaas isaga carareen Ciidamada Dowladda. Dagaal kooban oo xalay maqribkii iyo galabnimadii shalay ka dhacay aagagii la isku fara saaray ayaa hadana Xoogaga Mucaaradka dib ula wareegeen kadib markii ay la yimaadeen cudud milateri oo dheeraad ah taasoo suura gelisay inay isaga cararaan Ciidamada Dowladda. Goobaha haatan lakala joogo ayaa ah goobihii maalmihii u dambeeyay ee deegaanada waqooyi, waxaana ay yihiin labada dhinac kuwo is hor fadhiyay oo rasaas goos goos is weydaarsanayay. Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ayaa ku sugan Beexaani, Nasiib Buunde, xaafado ka tirsan Shibis, C/casiis iyo Kaaraan, kuwaasoo ahaa meelihii maalmo ka hor la wareegeen isla markaana shalay xoog looga saaray. Afhayeen u hadlay Xoogaga Islaamiyiinta ayaa sheegay inay saaka joogaan goobihii maalmihii la soo dhaafay ku sugnaayeen, waxaana uu sheegay inay qabsadeen Isbitaalka Keysaney oo shalay Saraakiil ka tirsan Dowladda ay ka qudbeeyeen. Inkastoo dagaalkii shalay kula wehliyeen Ciidamada Dowladda kuwa AMISOM oo taangiyo watay ayaa hadana shalay casir liiqii ay isaga soo baxeen jiida dagaalka AMISOM, taasoo keentay in Ciidamada Dowladda iyagana soo faarujiyaan. Ma jirto sarkaal u hadlay Dowladda oo shalay guulo caga gaaban noqotay ka sheegatay dagaalada, hase yeeshee Ciidamada Dowladda ayaa ah kuwo looga bartay in meelaha ay qabsadaan ay dib isaga soo baxaan. Hoyga wararka Somaliyed www.Jowhar.com Jowharcom@hotmail.co m Jowharcom@gmail.com

Gabbal, xiin and Duke are from the same sub sub clan thus you have no point. You the man who worshiped the spineless warlord Gabbal, xiin and Duke are from the same sub sub clan thus you have no point. You the man who worshiped the spineless warlord Hiiraale should not lecture anyone about anything, go help take the flees of his back in Dolow. Xiin as grown man should not cry out if the fights he starts don't go his way. He needs to have a more solid backbone than his dad Sharif Hotel. Sharif Ahmed incompetence is such that he gave away the country over to Al Shabaab, now there is no hope for this man and those who believe in him won't get far.

Xiin adeer it's great you found some support the clanist Hiiraale lover is no doubt giving you some joy but as I have indicated before that won't wash with real Puntlanders here. Sharif hotel does not enjoy any support from Puntland Faroole has always had the right strategy and one Which the Duke has supported. No new puntland troops will go to Mogadishu, the few thAT remain are fighting for their salary and are pissed with sheer incompetence of Sharif & his military chiefs led now by warlod indacade. Thus our xiin like the illegetimate child that he is , is supporting his happles father who is now parading Somali dead youths corpses. Again naked Aways and Sharif are yesterdays men. Xiin your dad is confused as he'll and you need to get a new one. Regards Duke

^^ I dear day the cowards who sat in London and complained about Ethiopia and Yusuf could never speak. Bana was misguided and used he died and today his family using mourning his poor mother with sick kids lost het hope, anyone who is brave enough should go and tell his family"nonsense"

Much bigger , the secessionist brothers know this fact.

Why are people talking nonsense these men have never claim That they are leaders of the community. Bihi lost his nephew Burhan Hassan and is fighting for justice inshallah Allah he will prevail. Omar Jamal is a fighter a funny fellow who the medi turns to when there are issues concerning Somalis. Thus those who are attacking Omar & bihi are chasing phantoms. The community has many leaderse young and old and there is nothing you can do about these or Bihi and Jamal. Abwan and his like could not mix tea in MN.

^those who belive in two faced Sharif hotel are full of nonsence. The weAkest most corrupt entity in Somali history that does not run a single village and relies on the foreign troops it's leader used to insult in demos only two years ago. Bana was a victim a paw in a game between devaints.

Adeer you seem to be suffering fr some cplex, Sharif has failed to address the main point Al Shabaab and others had? Get rid of all foreign troops and we will rub the cointry. Sharif hotel with no mandate started to go againt everything he once beloved in. Thus you are being hypocritical when you hide all these deaths and suffering is just so Sharif hotel can be president . Bana is avictim of Sharif meglomania a man who is weak and ignorant is the cAuse of all this suffering.

The land dispute led to the killings and the demo. Also the pics and the news coverage highlight this is not a small event at all.

Story This is the story of the kids.

Paragon adeer the boy was told by the group that brought him here that his mission was fight the infidals. There was no classification of infidals then. It's Sharif hotel who flip floped and is even begging Ethiopia for a comeback. Bana was wrong yes, but those who used him when it suited them and now parade his body and even deny his Somalinimo are criminal and Sharif is the worst of the lot.

JB: lately you keep telling us nothing major is happening, the elction never come, the US government attacks your position, the fighting in Gabilay region and now the blue flag being waved in Borama . I am not worked dear Lad but secessionists everywhere should be.

The people ate upst with the clan driven secessionist agenda. The blue flag is back.

^^LSK the boy left to join al shabaB when Yusuf was President he was very much inspired by people who were led by Sharif Ahmed.