Aaliyyah;802223 wrote: Listen Xaaji Xanjuf, you have one twisted outlook on history. There were no two clans fighting in 1992 but rather one clan(your clan) attacking another clan (reer awdal) in their home province of Awdal State without any provocation. reer awdal were the ones who accepted peace since your folks would have continued killing them in mass numbers. Even today they are being oppressed and whenever they demonstrate the result is more killings. However, there is an awakening movement within the Awdal people. Soon they will follow the same path of self determination as reer Khaatumo. The same way puntland has nothing to do with Khaatumo State, the secessionists has nothing to do with the future of Awdal State. There were two wars the clans of dila and gabiley fighting they're neighbors and it was solved after lots of reconciliations also the SDA a faction of the Awdal was heavily armed at that time they eventually took part of the Somaliland conference in 1991 along with their elders. Reer Hargeysa and reer gabiley demonstrate also does that mean they are oppressed or something. So stop portraying and insulting reer awdal as some weak community something they are not they are brave and strong people they are great stakeholders in Somaliland republic. By the way i don't like clans or qabyalaad i belong to no clan,Qabayalaad is what destroyed Somalia stop shipping it to Somaliland.

Carafaat;802177 wrote: Sxb Somali's fought over acces to resources and power along clan lines within a region or city. federalism will only continue the battle for acces to power and wealth but then on the national level. but strong regions with own characteristics, flags. doesnt mean its a federal state. Well said Somalia needs to be cured not to be poisoned with what went wrong in the past.

Aaaliyaah if you are talking about neighboring clans fighting in the early 90s than that is something from the past there is peace between the people there were some disputes between farmers of gabiley and dila but that is also solved last year. Now there were serial killers roaming inbetween Awdal and gabiley some of them were caught and some of them are still being hunted down. Thats for the seemaal killings when the 3 innocent civilians were murdered. Awdalites are part of and parcel of Somaliland founding fathers of Somaliland republic Borama 1993 Sh cali jawhar. Sii fiican u daawo Aaaliyah especially from 2:46

Hada waxay is leeyihin ceebta ino qariya but body bags will be heading back to addis ababa tallow taa sidee loo qarin:D Allahu Akbar Walilahil Xamd

Ethiopia is trying to save face after defeat Ethiopia dismisses reports of major Somali losses Selecteer een taal​ By Aaron Maasho ADDIS ABABA, March 11 (Reuters) - Ethiopia rejected on Sunday reports that dozens of its soldiers had been killed and two captured by Islamist rebels during fierce fighting in Somalia, branding them as "false." The rebels, residents and government officials said there were sustained clashes on Saturday between Ethiopian soldiers and al Shabaab near the strategic town of Baidoa and in another small town some 130 km (81 miles) away. Al Shabaab claimed responsibility for killing scores of Ethiopians and capturing two while the governor of the region, based in Baidoa, said it was the al Qaeda-allied rebels who had been routed. "They engaged our troops after regrouping in tiny pockets outside our area of control," Ethiopian Foreign Ministry spokesman Dina Mufti told Reuters. "Al Shabaab rebels sustained heavy casualties and have retreated ... the battle scene is littered with the bodies of dead enemy combatants. "It's a statement of survival, a desperate attempt. All claims are false," he said. Ethiopia sent its forces into the neighbouring Horn of Africa nation in late 2006 and quickly ousted an Islamist administration from the capital Mogadishu. But the presence of the foreign soldiers fueled an insurgency that mushroomed into al Shabaab. Now under pressure, the group at one time controlled much of the capital Mogadishu and large parts of southern and central Somalia. AUDIO RECORDING The Ethiopians pulled out of Somalia in early 2009, but returned again in force late last year to open another front against al Shabaab after Kenya sent its soldiers into the south of the anarchic country. The Ethiopians seized Baidoa last month and a number of other strategic towns near its border in the latest incursion. "They are hiding their casualties just to deceive the Ethiopian civilians whose sons were killed by al Shabaab. They will express grief for the dead who never come back, however you deny their deaths," Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, the spokesman for al Shabaab's military operation, told Reuters. He said the two captured Ethiopian soldiers would soon be shown to the media. Al Shabaab broadcast a recording on the Internet on Saturday which it said was the voice of a soldier captured during hours of fighting in the small town of Yurkud on Saturday. In the recording, a man speaking in the Ethiopian Amharic language, said in a trembling voice that his name was Abera and he had been captured in battle with another man called Tadesse, and that "many of my friends died in the fight". It was impossible to confirm the authenticity of the audio recording. Both names are common in Ethiopia. Al Shabaab, a group that has been fighting to topple the Western-backed government and wants to impose its own harsh version of Islamic law, is holding two Kenyan government officials it seized in a cross-border raid. (Additional reporting by Feisal Omar in Mogadishu; Writing by David Clarke; Editing by Karolina Tagaris). Source: Reuters

Read this carafaat Cumar wuxuu aad ugu dheeraaday in madaxweyne Shariif gobolka Banaadir oo ah meeshii ay u dhasheen iyo dekeda Muqdisho uu ku safay dad reerkiisa ah iyo saaxiibadiisa isagoo iska ilaaway dadka kale. Ma jirin cid ka tirsan dawlada oo la hadashay dibadbaxayaasha oo socodkooda si nabadgelyo ah ku dhameystay. Cabashada beelaha Banaadiriga ayaa ahayd arin maalmahanba ka taagneyd magaalada Muqdisho walow masuuliyiinta DKMG ah aysan ka hadlin.

Its the banadiri community of xamar from the old city of Xamar from Shingaani and Xamarweyne they are not happy with the current Mogadishu Admin they should be fairly represented in the Mogadishu admin.

Gaacuur;801907 wrote: http://www.voanews.com/somali/news/Farole-TFG-Uma-Madaxbanaana--142221345.html - TFG uma madaxbanaana iney la hadasho Somaliland. - Maamul Goboleed aan Puntland ahayn mala aqoonsan karo. - Somaliland waxaa la hadli kara oo kaliya Puntland anagaana ka masuul ah arintaas. - Dawladda Puntland waxay lahaaneysaa Dastuur ka gooni ah kan Federalka. Gaacuur how can Puntland have its own constitution a country can only have one constitution

Carafaat i think that's should be an open option if things really get out of hand the garowe clan enclave divided a small city like Galkacyo into clanish fiefdoms. Even baargaal is divided that's a real serious issue Somalia needs national unity instead of division and that's the way forward.

^^ Indeed down with clanfederalism no need for fictional clanish borders.

Aaliyyah;802094 wrote: Xaaji Xanjuf, if you don't know that your folks committed genocide against the people of Awdal in 1992. And, still oppressing and killing innocent people (it was just recently when people demonstrating in borame were killed) ..then clearly you are living in your own lalaand. Awdal State will follow the same path as Khaatumo State and will claim their rightful lands. Mark my words! People were killed 3 people were murdered and that was really bad and some of the killers were caught but what does Somaliland have to do with that? Now if a serial killer kills people does that mean the government has anything to do with it? As for Awdal state its a region of Somaliland talk to their elders politicians in Awdal and you will see the light.

Aaliyyah;802083 wrote: Salax, the so called Somaliland is in war with their neighbors (Awdal state and Khaatumo State) so how do you expect recognition? War with Awdal where and when?

Muqdisho: Dowlada TFG-da oo maamul cusub u magacawday Gobolka Hiiraan 11. marts 2012 Dowlada KMG Soomaaliya ayaa maanta u magacawday maamulki ugu horeeyey mudo 3 sana ah gobolka Hiiraan, laba bilood kadib marki laga xoreeyey Al Shabaab. Wareegto kasoo baxday madaxweyne Shariif ayaa lagu magacaabay maamulka cusub ee gobolka Hiiraan iyadoo gudoomiye loogu magacaabay C/fataax Xasan Afrax. Munaasabada wareegtada loogaga dhawaaqay oo ka dhacday xarunta wasaarada arrimaha gudaha oo ay kasoo qeybgaleen xildhibaano, iyo xubno ka tirsan wasaarada arrimaha gudaha oo uu ka mid ahaa wasiiru dowlaha arrimaha gudaha iyo amniga qaranka ayaa sidoo kale lagu magacaabay duqa magaalada Baladweyne. Duqa magaalada Baladweyne ayaa loo magacaabay Sheekh Cismaan Barre, waxaana goobta ku sugnaa duqa magaalada iyo gudoomiyaha cusub ee gobolka Hiiraan. Qoraalka kasoo baxay madaxweynaha ayaa lagu sheegay in maamulkan ay si KMG ah u qaban doonaan xilalka ilaa mudo sadex bilood ah. Magacaabista C/fataax Xasan Afrax oo horay u ahaa madaxweynaha maamulka Dooxada Shabelle ayaa soo jiitameysay mudo bil ah, waxaana mudadaasi socday wada hadalo oo uu madaxweyne Sharif kula jiray xildhibaanada kasoo jeeda Hiiraan oo uu aaqirki ku qanciyey in ay aqbalaan shaxda loo sameeyey maamulka cusub ee Hiiraan. Gobolka Hiiraan ayaa waxa dega qabiilo badan kuwaasi oo uu ka dhaxeeyo xafiiltan dhinaca siyaasada ah, waxaaa sugaya maamulka cusub howlo adag oo uu ugu horeeyo amaanka.

Che -Guevara;802025 wrote: Hada waxaad leedahay ragii wadanka saas ugaley baa wax kasoo bixi kara dumarka? Hermet....To gauge the intellect of Somali man and his ability, just look at SOL and tell me if they are better than Somali women? Che rag talo kama dhamaato we were just very unlucky but there was nothing wrong with Somali leadership prior 1991

Its a historical day for the people of the sool region a party that represents them opens its first office in Laascaanood the people really needed this.

Che Guevara Garowe haday wax sheegeyso Email ha soo dirto wakhti badan looma hayo iyaga Mogadisho iyo hargeysan islaha walaleeh labada meelood eeh Wada hadalku halkaasu ku socda

Dumarku wa gob waan jeclahay hooyo edo iyo qaar kalo badan wa kuwanu dhalnay but siyasad dee uma dhiban karno meelo kalo oo badan oo ku haboon ba jira oo loo dhibo oo ay ka so bixi karan shaqadooda.

Yes lets hope that but don't equal hargeysa with garowe wa aduunyo kale fog. Ssc dee wa xisbi is diwaan geliyey i think i will be a member soon Who are the cousins Che is talking about gogoshi oday Siilaanyo wali way furantahay.

^^ war kuwasi rag bay u eegyihin manad arkayn qaab dhismooka Che Yurubianka wa iska yara stif stiff eeg isday u taganyihin

Carafaat;802009 wrote: SSC? Thats a Somaliland party

Che -Guevara;802008 wrote: This is an improvement Xaaji. We went from 'we have nothing to do with Somalia' to we will talk to them....now talk to your cousins to the east, it's next logical thing to do. Che Guevara all Somaliland leaders since 1991 said if there is a government in Somalia we will talk to them but how could Somaliland talk to warlords or Abdiqasim or the ICU at that time if Somalia has a government, Somalilands government is willing to talk to them. We are not sure of the talks will succeed or not,its not even certain if the talks between Somaliland and Somalia will be prior august perhaps after august.

War naga da niyo ambay nin ba lahayn war habluhu gurigooda ha ino joogan. Ma rag ba arladi laga wayey markaynu gabadh madasha calaamka keeneyno.Xita ka ay qabto wa u damiir xumo sabab first man bu la baxaya wamaxay waxaasi First man waba sheeko walaan.

Great

Faroole is stalking nonsense again as usual. Somaliland mamuul beeleedka pudhlayn wax ka dhexeyaa iska yar Somaliland will talk to Somalia and thats its

Inagada naag Somalia hogaamisa ka waran Madaxweynayasha calaamku haday inaga shukaansadan Madaxweynaha