Dr Osman its important to have a strong Puntland and its security forces are also welcome but dont you think after 15 years of Puntland existence as a state ,dont you think after 21 years of turmoil in Somalia. Its time to establish a strong Somali armed forces. Puntland is pretty secure it has police forces armed forces navy forces. Is it now time to establish all of that for Somalia why do you want to wait Dr osman why not be the leader its time to set the pace you have to show ur leadership skills like you're grandfathers did they were leaders Dr osman do you want to be a follower or a leader like King Osman and Sultan Ali Yusuf and President Abdirashid ali sharmarke.

Dr_Osman;882802 wrote: Xaji why would we want a strong somalia so it can attack us. We want a strong puntland in boys we can trust. Puntland will continue the path of modernizing its security sector and somalis will need to deal with But Somalia and Puntland are one Puntland strength is Somalia's strength and Somalia's strength is Puntland strength. Dr Osman how long do you think Puntland can remain a semi autonomous state with its own capable armed forces and navy forces. Dr Osman why not establish a strong Somali armed forces and let Puntland have the lead in that. Now that Somalia is a federal republic its time to Build Somalia.

Dr osman can you answer my question about Puntlands role in stabilizing Somalia and delivering troops to southern Somalia perhaps even help built a capable Somali armed forces?

^^ i wouldn't mind that koley ilaahay ba naga bad badiiyey thank god i was much and much younger at that time.

^^ Lool waxba ka jira

Apophis;882745 wrote: When exactly was this “shalay"? I think between 1960 till 1991

Welcome to Clan federalism.

Mr Somalia i am aware what is going on in Garowe Mr Faroole Leader of Puntland has been arming him self to the teeth the past 3 years. One of the Arab Countries are his biggest arms suppliers even though there is an Arms embargo on Somalia but Faroole doesn't care and continues this the Dr knows this 2 . The Army is a big militia you are right but its a big organized Militia equipped with not so bad Military hardware.

Read this norf http://www.gabiley.net/pages/tDetails.php?source=news&ID=24099&permission=1&audioFile=

Somalia;882725 wrote: Puntland has no army, it has police and paramilitary force, as the pictures illustrate it's just a militia with a new name. The doctor agrees with me. I am sure the Doctor can speak for him self

Chimera wants to redefine the Somali identity as the only tribe of the Somali country but there was never a Somali identity there were always tribal fiefdoms prior colonialism. The only way to have a Somali identity is if Somalia becomes a multi ethnic country where 40% of the people are not Somalis but from Kenya Ethiopia Tanzania Arabia Bangladesh India Jamaica Morocco. Somalis care about 3 things Their religion their tribe and their money Chimera imagine adigu 18 century ku nool adigu hare digeed marayaa oo adigu geel badan wata iyo xoolo badan iyo dumar badan oo nin Somali ku yidha ana Xoolo badan baan haysta ma isku geyna xoolaheena. Dabeedna ninka halka fadhiya eeh waranka sita eeh Goa cad huwan aynu u dhiibano xoolaheena. What will his reaction be do you think he would accept or not.

Dr osman give us ur feedback should these strong troops fight against alshabaab along side the Somali government. I don't think Federalism is supposed to mean to have a strong army in one part of the country. If that's the case Puntland can form a threat to the federal government imagine a section of America having a strong army with special forces that are not part of the US army.

Wariyihii Universal oo goor dhaweyd lagu dillay Laascaanood Laascaanood(Waaheen) Wariyihii Telefishanka Universal ee magaaladda Laascaanood Axmed Saki ayaa goor dhaweyd Toogasho lagu Dillay isagoo maraya gurigiisa agtiisa ee gudaha Laascaanood. Warkan waxa Waaheen u xaqiijiyay Wariye C/qani Gadari ooh ore uga tirsanaan jiray Wariyayaasha Telefishankaasi balse cabsi awgeed uga soo qaxay kadib markii ay kooxo ugu hanjabeen in ay Dilli doonaan haddii uu sii joogo magaaladda. “imika ayaa walaal la toogtay wariyahaas isagoo gurigiisa ku dhaw ilaa hada cid looma qaban, waxaan filayaa uun cida fal kaas fulisay inay tahay kooxdii anigaba ii hanjabtay” ayuu yidhi C/qani Gadari. Dilka Wariyaha ayaa ku soo hagaagay xili uu saaka magalaadaasi ka dhacay qarax lala beegsaday laba qof, kaasoo ay Booliisku sheegeen inay qof u qabteen.

When will Puntlands army be incorporated into the Somali army?

You guys are taking this to lightly that's someone's daughter someone's child where is the justice????

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ilaahay ha u gargaaro inanta yar very sad They should hunt down the people who did that and they should be executed i despise people who hurt kids.

Ma Mr last Nail on the coffin baa ha dhakhlayso awal ba dhakh faraha laga falay bay ahayd.

He seems pissed

The Banadir district the banadiri folks and unuka folks get along fine i haven't heard the banadiri community saying they are marginalized in their own city either way the banadiri community and unuka folks are closely related wa wiil iyo abtigiis lets not create a conflict where there is no conflict. The rest of the Somali people Mogadishu is still their capital they have a say to they can live work spend time on the beaches u name no one will stop them and last but not least Mogadishu is the seat of the Somali government which symbolizes the heart of the Somali state. Reer Mogadishu are the most welcoming Somalis at least when i lived there long time ago u would never feel that you are an outsider. I don't think if some one from the other regions of Somalia suggest he wants to administrate 2 or 3 districts of Mogadishu the people of xamar would object,people need to learn how to share.

Zack he was never fired he was told to come to the khatumo conference and they just created another admin while he was still there Etiher way president silanyos policy was simple every one from the garaad clan is welcome as long as they support peace and stability in the eastern regions.president silanyo said my door is opene for every one who wants peace so good so far This guy fought against somaliland now he made peace its a good start

Nimco didn't say she composed the song she just said a different guy composed it its her word against marwo , nimco is a very talented singer

Somalia;882376 wrote: Xaaji, Puntland nor Galmudug purport to be the capital for the Somali people. This is not about Mogadishu but the status it claims while being run by a single group. :eek: The status is that its the capital of Somalia so far Mogadishu is not part of a federal state i dont see a problem.

General duke again u are comparing the incomparable the united states is the land of the immigrants were smaller communities from mexico people of Irish descent Spanish descent Italian descent all based themselves in America Catholicism and Protestantism is openly practiced. Americans shaped their identity through out the last 2 centuries America went through an American civil war from 1861–1865 to achieve their nation unity. i did not say America is homogeneous country i said they don't have tribal rivalries Like in Somalia even at subclan level, that they have ethnic differences is clear. You on the other hand want to create tribal states in modern 21 century in Somalia it doesn't matter if u have clan hebel have one state clan hebel has the other at the end of the day you still are where u were yesterday no progress whats so ever. Why are you against creating more inclusive states even if clan federalism was given a chance why is the tribal identity so important to you.

General Duke;882361 wrote: New York, Los Angeles are shared Cities they have a Jewish & Latino Mayors and Federalisam is strong in the US. The people of each city must have greater representation. Mogadishu is a multi clan city even today and should not be dominated by any one group. Thats the jist of the argument here. Federalisam will develop Somalia much faster than a centralised system ever did. It can also address the political issues that have arisen in the war years. America doesn't have sub clan rivalries and clan disputes in cities and villages you are comparing the incomparable. It might develop Somalia faster we yet have to see that time will tell when federalism is implemented but pure clan states will never work.Even With Puntland it needs to include others why cant Galmudug and Puntland be united under one federal state it will make the state more diverse. Why cant the lower shabeele and the 2 jubas be one state it makes the state more diverse what if gedo and bay and bakool join hand in hand it will make the state more diverse.