No Genel is only in Somaliland, not in Somalia

Here is another one prof samatar saying Somalilanders those who advocated for independence were right after all the past 20 years and we must follow that

Genel decides risk is worth it searching for oil in Somaliland Tony Hayward, chief executive of Genel Energy, is sanguine about the risk Finding oil could be the least of Genel Energy's problems Next year Genel will drill its first wells in Somaliland, the breakaway East African territory that declared independencefrom Somalia more than 20 years ago after a bloody civil war The prize could be huge If the explorer fronted by Tony Hayward finds as much of the black stuff as it expects to, it may find itself in the middle of several territorial disputes in one of the world's most volatile regions Finding oil could be the least of Genel Energy’s problems. If the explorer fronted by Tony Hayward finds as much of the black stuff as it expects to, it may find itself in the middle of several territorial disputes in one of the world’s most volatile regions. Next year Genel will drill its first wells in Somaliland, the breakaway East African territory that declaredindependence from Somalia more than 20 years ago after a bloody civil war. The prize could be huge. At 40,000 sq km, its acreage in the nation is bigger than the whole of the Kurdishregion. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/business/industries/naturalresources/article3821949.ece

Says the man his own defense minister is in Ethiopia as we speak asking the Ethiopians to remain in Somalia bal waaalida inta leeeg eega.Where are the Xabashis as we speak bay bakool hiiraan lol. The Xabashis protect you Malistar from Amiir Godane or else he would've run over your little project long time ago. Baby sit us , you cant even protect your UN compound or your judiciary institutions . Khatumo is no threat when was the last time they carried out an attack can you remember that Malistar? Khatumo has never been a threat to SL , they actually operate as a buffer entity in a few villages in eastern sool between Somaliland and the garowe clan enclave. They form absolutely no threat 2 days ago 600 of them defected to SL government.

^^ Waryaa no need to threaten a man under African union protection

Than u have to stick with the SFG and the African union troops but dont expect anything to change any time soon, down there. Because we have seen the first year of the SFG , political disputes with the Jubbaland, the President acting as the minister of health the prime minister the minister of education. All what was achieved was done by reer Mogadishu because of their investment in the city. But the goverment hasn't done much really, in terms of security in terms of creating institutions in terms of building trust between Somalis. And you my friend have to deal with that because that is what it means to be part of Somalia. The country is already split well the former republic its just not official it is balkanized on all fronts. We shall see what next year brings.

Homunculus;970061 wrote: But... but... Kismayo is the biggest problem this government must solve. You finally took your blinders off and realized that the officials in this government are all about lining up their pockets. I wanted this president to succeed so bad that now I'm reconsidering my stance on everything. The Somali experiment might be a failure. You can always join Somaliland

Its not a disaster u over exaggerate mooge the problem is people were expecting to much , people thought a strong team could've been build the Prime Minister seems to be operating as the deputy Mayor of Mogadishu he is not taking office. Also another problem is on the sector we were expecting improvements such as security thats where the government remained the same. Lets see what the next year brings.

Hassan needs a stronger team he needs a real interior minister who is competent who has the ability to give guidance on all domestic affairs with in the country,hassan needs to get rid of the intelligence service and adopt a whole new plan and strategy to infiltrate all the cells of Alshabaab. He needs to have a special institute of national security for Mogadishu to begin with and later to reach the entire country. The National security service will directly cooperate under the interior ministry the same with the newly established intelligence service. Hassan needs to train the security forces, he needs to have competent first general and a real defense ministry defense ministry is not just about one man, its a whole national defense institution which gives guidance to the entire nations security, this needs to be clearly redeveloped. The defense minister travels to much he needs to lay the foundation of capable defense security force and give coordination where needed. Let the Foreign minister travel to neighboring countries let she do all the diplomacy when it comes to neighboring countries.

The reason why u dont see real progress on the ground is because there is no real army in place other than Some Militia , there is no structured command no real trained officers it will take years until an army is reinstated. Remember it took Somalia 15 years to train troops and prepare for duty 15 years before colonialism ended in Somalia. And back than it was trained by Italy and at independence it had defense forces. right now there is no territorial control there are some militia they need to fill the vacuum they need to train, and they are shadowed by the African union troops and there is corruptions soldiers are not paid on time. So u wont see real changes on the ground unless the SFG changes its ways. Somalia is still dependent on the African union troops.

malistar2012;970051 wrote: Feysal Cali Waraabe Blows the whistle , the Truth has come to the SNM Clans They are starting to realize Recognition will never come Stop your nonsense Recognition is not what builds a tangible and functional state, domestic hard work and good governance and basic administration and distributing the national wealth among the people , is what does. Somalia is recognized it has a recognized government but its toothless full of corruption with no territorial control over its land and African union countries having more say about what happens in Somalia than the so called government. But there is no hope at the end of the tunnel only Turkish Charity projects when a President tells his soldiers they need to stop the isbaaro, you see there is something really wrong there

Good Faisal needs to be a strong opposition to the government , SL needs strong opposition the goverment was getting to comfortable the past year or 2. Good on Sultan Faisal keeping the balance.

Professor samatar schooling the Koonfurian reporter of Universal TV

Buuba is family and a very educated man but the man i cant understand him, when he sits next to General moorgen the same man he fought in the 80s. I respect General Jamac Maxamad qalib allot although he is a unionist he doesn't behave as a sell out . STOIC adeerka wa xagjir lol By the way Samatar says allot i wished a Somaliweyn but wa lana la garan waayey hada waxan raacay dadkaygi Samatars point is that Koonfurians made the union impossible , he also said Somalilanders in another interview we should never wait for left overs again.

STOIC;970011 wrote: Che, hehe..Waaar I don't trust this guy. What is going to happen tomorrow if Somaliland fails to fulfill his ambitions? His heart maybe at the right place ,but I still have doubts(not an unfounded concern). The man has the right to change his politics. It is just that he came across as opportunist. Lets not be to hard on the Professor back in the days the Professor seemed to be angry all the time, he was also convinced that there is true Somalinimo In Somalia where people are chosen and elected on their leaderships skills and not viewed in a certain way because of their clan. The Professor miscalculated Somalia was in civil war for the past 2 decades, he has to understand the Koonfurians although a bit slick in the early 60s They were also patriots like the Somalilanders, But the civil war also changed them a bit and even they broke into pieces,and were fighting along clan lines and turned into religious zealots called in all the African union nation states to send troops. Drafted a constitution after 21 years with the help of the legendary Mahiga , Mr mahiga friend of all Somalis. So the Professor didn't really understand the Koonfurians and their plight. I believe the professor just want to give back to the people of Somaliland the rest of his life and perhaps leave a legacy. And go down in the history books as one of the most respected Somalilanders. We shall see his future steps horta isaga iyo reer Somalia wa kala so dhamaadeen xaga siyaasada.

He was away for to long he just found his new Somalilandish identity similar like the Professor the only differences is the Professor was with the Koonfurians and STOIC was with the Kikuyu Lol STOIC you were spot on the reporter was Baashi of SOL

STOIC the reporter indeed doesn't Like Somaliland, he is probably from the Sahal communities. Lol Che idaa STOIC he has found his roots back:D

Alpha's clan are known as apes lol, they triggered the first Somaliland civil war when they said they own the Berbera port in 1992 yeah i know its madness. Some still beat their chest and tell others they own berbera, they need to be slapped in the face real hard and they need to be told that they dont own berbera. But they started moving into the city in the late 1920 and early 1930s. Berbera is much older. The Somaliland parliament need to pass a law to get rid of tribal homelands in the country.We cannot have some Monkey's claiming one of the oldest cities of Somaliland. Brother Che the oromos were invaders themselves they were never in Somali galbeed before they migrated from Kenya and southern Ethiopia, they have no right any where near us there were some oromos in Southern Somalia but they were pushed out centuries ago and beaten and send into the Nilotic lands.

Alpha Blondy;969922 wrote: Berbera daad baa iska leh. waxaan ''Somalia'' iyo ''Somaliland'' aad sheegeysa waa maxaay? kuma dhacaan in 20km kusoo dhawaadaan :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: The monkey's invaded Berbera in the early 20th century and because the original berberaawis moved to Hargeisa , before that the Monkey's had no say in Berbera 19 18 17 16 century and so on the Monkey's were caged, now the Monkey's believe they own the city ,geel dhalaya indhahagu na wa ku tusa

^^ Which is Che?

The professor said i felt so home when arrived in Somaliland culturally traditionally and i was once again united with my people and there was so much historic attachment i had with Somaliland, And i felt that all over again. He said the difference between Somaliland and Somalia, and the way i was treated and welcomed was that in Somaliland i got a special treatment and its special to me he said since its the land i hail from originally, the republic of Somaliland. He said the People welcomed me with a true heart. When asked about clan states in Somaliland and Awdal , he said it was never my intention to divide Somaliland along clan lines, he said i will never ever support that i believe in the unity of Somaliland. He said the Koonfurians Killed the Union when they created a duopoly and that is a real reason to leave the Koonfurians altogether. He said the Somaliland people must unite their resources to strengthen their unity and i believe the unity of Somaliland is my destination. When asked about Somaliland , he said the Somaliland aspirations are legit and real and cannot be denied and that people in Somaliland have completely given up on Somaliweyn, this is the reality The professor also said Somaliland is me and i am Somaliland my roots are in Somaliland , no one can tell me to leave as the Koonfurians said that i was a mere person from the north. He also explained Somali language and the cultural Somali identity and the Somaliland national identity as in par with Djibouti Somalis Somalia Somalis Kilinka Somalis NFD Somalis. He also said when we proposed the unity of Somalia and Somaliland people rejected it particularly in the south , and as i was always a Somalilander and i want to be with Somaliland because we will no longer wait for the Koonfurians, Because the people of Somaliland made their decision. When asked about Ethiopia and Somaliland relations, The professor said i have never seen Ethiopian birr in Somaliland because the reported said people might have use ethiopia Bir in parts of SL, he also said the SL shillings is worth more than the Somalia shillings. He also said that the people of Somaliland i urge them to have diploamtic economic relations with Ethiopia but a well thought policy where as Somaliland gains allot from the huge market of Ethiopia. When asked about the future of SL , he said Koonfurians haven't brought anything to Somaliland, Somaliland gave Somaliweyn the biggest present which was they made the union and gave up their sovreingty for the union. He said Xassan sheikh has no clue about Somaliland when he said SL is about emotions , Somaliland aspirations are real and legit he said i have seen it with my own 2 eyes in every single village of Somaliland.

Very interesting interview

Mintid Farayar;969989 wrote: The thread is about 600 militiamen who've had a change of heart and Somaliland's expansion into all of its claimed space. There are countless other threads about Jubbaland to continue this sort of discussion. Or is this another attempt to distract from a bad news day?? Back to the 600 men Indhoshaeel one of the 3 presidents of Khatumo said there was no defection from Khatumo at all. He is Kenya by the way i think he is ill informed. One thing Mr Indhosheel is missing Somaliland gained more control 90 km south east of Ceerigaabo Fiqifuliye area how can they gain control if there was no peace agreement or defection in that sense. http://afbakayle.com/dhagayso-madax-wayne-khaatumo-oo-beniyay-in-ciidamo-ka-goostay/

Actually there are many of the SNM clans who support Jubbaland and there are many who are against it, it depends the same with the garaad clan, for example some segments of the Garaad clan believe they should not pick sides between barre hiiraale and Axmed madoobe Jubbaland since they are both their kin. For the SNM clans of Somaliland, some support Kenya gaining more control over Somalia since some feel closer to Kenya than to Somaliland. In order for Hassan sheikhs SFG to lose more legitimacy in his own country they want him to fail in the Jubbaland conflict against kenya. Remember many in Somaliland consider still Somalia a very hostile state and they dont mind Axmed madoobe gaining more momentum and control or even joining Kenya, in order to weaken Somalia. And there others who want hassan to succeed in order to have in the long term a strong Somalia next to Somaliland. I can show you a video of reer borama elders in support of Axmed madoobe. All in All the Somaliland government remain indifferent and neutral they dont see why they should support one group against the other. Both of them dont form a threat to Somaliland and i think its an excellence stance.

Meaning cut all ties with Culusow and be an autonomous state free of Culusow at all