still berbera not hargeisa

Koonfuurians oo aan jeclayn kala danbaynta iyo nidaamka

Nice pics tnx for sharing

its vilage in puntland lol

Move it to where garowe lol.

anigu maan qorrin gaal ba qorray , but soon it will not be part of that crumbling country then it will be offical.

Welcome to Somaliland, the nicer part of crumbling country Written by The Miami Herald May 14, 2009 at 05:55 AM HARGEISA, Somaliland — It might surprise you to learn that Somalia — that post-apocalyptic shell of a nation where Islamist insurgents, clan warlords and now pirates hold sway over a helpless government — has some nice parts, too. In Hargeisa, a visitor can walk the asphalt roads at dusk and freely breathe the sharp mountain air. The street markets are busy and boisterous, and hanging out there isn't likely to get you killed. Cell phone companies advertise mobile Internet service and the good hotels have wireless hot spots. If this doesn't feel like Somalia, residents say that's because it's not. This is Somaliland, a northern former British protectorate that broke away from chaotic southern Somalia in 1991, established an admirably stable government and hoped never to look back. No country has recognized Somaliland's independence, however. The argument has always been that to do so would further destabilize Somalia, even as Somalia seems to be destabilizing well enough on its own. So for now, this quiet slice of land along the volatile Gulf of Aden is an undeniable, if very reluctant, piece of Somalia. A territory of 5 million people, Somaliland is trying to be a good regional citizen, hosting tens of thousands of refugees from southern Somalia and, lately, trying and imprisoning pirates, which few governments anywhere have been eager to do. At least 26 men are serving time in Somaliland prisons for piracy. Last month, a European warship stopped nine men who were attempting to hijack a Yemeni vessel but allowed them to flee in a lifeboat. The would-be pirates washed ashore in Somaliland, where police and the scrappy coast guard, which patrols a 600-mile coastline with two speedboats and a tiny fleet of motorized skiffs, chased them down. "We are patient. We always feel like we are getting close" to recognition, said Abdillahi Mohamed Duale, the polished foreign minister, betraying just a trace of exasperation in his near-flawless English. "Time will put Somaliland where we belong." Yes, the territory has a foreign minister, along with liaison offices — don't call them diplomatic missions — in a handful of countries including the United States. It has a president and a bicameral legislature, as well as feisty opposition parties. It issues its own currency — crisp bills printed in the United Kingdom — and its own passports and visas. It can't make deals with other countries for development projects, though, and no international banks have opened here. The economy remains mostly pre-modern and farm-based. So you can understand Duale's frustration: While Somalia is a country without a functioning government, Somaliland is a noncountry with a reasonably functioning government. The president, Dahir Riyale Kahin, won the first free elections in 2003 and was rewarded last year with a visit by the then-ranking U.S. diplomat for Africa, then-Assistant Secretary of State Jendayi Frazer. This year, however, Riyale has sparred with opposition leaders over the timing of elections, which have been postponed twice and now are set for October. Some foreign officials are worried that the young democracy is backsliding. "They were a model for Somalia, in our minds, but now they're having significant problems," said a Western diplomat who closely follows Somalia and who wasn't authorized to be quoted by name. Experts regard the spat as temporary and expect foreign governments to keep funding Somaliland-based relief efforts and political reform projects, but Somaliland's limbo status appears more enduring. While the United Nations urges support for the transitional Somali government in the south, African countries are leery of encouraging their own secessionist movements and the United States is unwilling to go out on a limb for the obscure little territory. "Governments don't want to be involved in the politics" of Somaliland's independence, said Patrick Duplat of Refugees International, a Washington-based advocacy group. "But they have to be cognizant of the fact that it's the only operating government in this place." From colonial times, Somaliland took a different path. In the 19th-century scrum over Africa, Britain acquired the territory mainly to supply its more important garrison in Aden, across the sea in Yemen. Relatively few British expatriates settled here, leaving tribes and institutions intact, while southern Somalia became a full-fledged colony of Italy, complete with Italianate architecture and banana farms to supply the home country. The British and Italian territories were joined at independence to form the Somali Republic, but in 1991, with the southern-based regime verging on collapse, a rebel government in Somaliland declared itself autonomous. After two years of fighting, a new government emerged that melded traditional clan structures with Western-style separation of powers, a hybrid system that some experts have called a prototype for the rest of Somalia. Contrast that, Duale said, with the hundreds of millions of dollars the world has poured into Somalia's feeble transitional government, including $213 million pledged last month to bolster security forces and African Union peacekeepers. "It's pure hypocrisy," Duale said. "You have here in Somaliland a nation-building process that didn't require massive expense by others. And yet we have everything the international community preaches: self-reliance, inclusiveness, stability." The troubles down south have spilled over, with more than 75,000 displaced Somalis taking shelter in Somaliland. On Oct. 29, coordinated suicide bombings struck the presidential residence, a U.N. compound and an Ethiopian political office in Hargeisa, reportedly killing 30 people. The attack was immediately blamed on Islamist militants who are battling for control of Somalia, a reminder that for all its advantages, Somaliland remains yoked to that troubled land to the south. "Everybody was scared that we could be targeted so easily," said Mohammed Isak, a marketing manager for a mobile phone company. "You cannot enjoy peace while your neighbor is burning." http://www.miamihera ld.com/692/story/104 6827-p2.html Next>

odaygan xassan daahir aweys ayaa ka danbeyaa waxa oo dan alshabaab na ma tabaan karran yusuf siyaad indhacadde. xassan daahir aweys ba khamiskisa ku qarin doona yusuf siyaad indha cade waad arki doonta.

Axmed cabdi godane his father used to be butched in hargeisa. wa caan wala yaqana ilma cabdi godane.

mashallah abaara dalki madhiye.waleh. wa in la ducaaysta.

Kuma dhacaaan Yusuf siyaad indhacade wa laandhere , alshabaab isku ma tabtaan laandhereyaasha ileen way is ogyihin eh.

Originally posted by General Duke: No I disagree with you. Puntland and Somaliland should mind their own business at this time. Sharif and his Midnimo Qaran government should defend itself. After all he seeked this job and no one forced him. I disagree sh hotel and his government are to weak to act so there for we need to act.if the shabaab if they fully control Mogadishu and anything south of galkacyo Somaliland and puntland should work side by side .at least to defeat this conmen enemy , I think even riyaale should place some of his troops in galkacyo. Haday arinti qadhaato weyaan taasi.

Originally posted by Emperor: ^Adeer Shariifka, Hassan Dahir iyo Alshabaab are all fools, waxay kasimanyihiin waa dowlad-nimo iyo kala danbayn nacayb, A-Yusuf iyo Ethiopia ayaad kumarmarsooteen hada meesha majoogaan, maxaa dowlad oo hirgalin waayay oo maxaa la isku dagaalayaa? Hadii kale sidaadii odaga isaga marmarsoow.... they believe emperor ama sharif ha imaado ama shamsudiin ha yimado shaqadooda maha nimankan waxay aminsanyihin tfg ba xaraan ah ciidi oo gashana wa murtad gaal ah. cabdilahi yusuf iyo waxa kuma xiidna iyo Ethiopian. xassan daahir aweys said a few days back siyaasadi hore ayaanu waddana anagu sharifku siyaasad cusub buu la yimi kana yeelii mayno.

waad jeceshihin inanu idin maamulno somaha lol. laakin waxayago reer ka weyn , ina riyaale baanu ku qanacsanahay lol.

I have a back up plan does puntland have a back up plan

Its funny fikir islaamad ka hadlaysa and you stop at lawyacade what is stopping you in lawyada cade Djibouti gall haday ka dacaad tahay oo dhulka canfarta gall eeh mulimiinta. Oo soco mise waxagu wa Somaliland uun lol Kilinka shanaad oo gudub haday fikirkan islaamka ka dacaad tahay oromada xorree. Lol. Laakin Somaliland these guys you are talking about godane they are wanted in Somaliland jail ba oo qorran kuwasaad adigu na emir ugu yeedhaysa lol. Runtii these people won’t pass galkacyo hadaynu runta isku sheegno hadabay soo dhafaaan ahlu suna waljamaca we saw the karbaash they got from ahlu sunna waljamaca in galguudud and gobolada dhexe.

if sh sharif is smart he will re group and support the ahlu sunna wal jamaca or any resistance that is against these alshabaabist.

Duke you said in one of your other post that puntland gave the sharif the benefit of the doubt did anything change yet. Or will you guys wait till sh sharif makes a decision

What will the t f g do now what is their next step will they re group and try to liberate mogadisho now when the world sees that mogadisho the biggest major parts of the city are in the hands of the al shabaab and xisbal islaam , will the west send foreign troops one more time. Wil sh dalxiis resign in a preconference. Or will he stay in power as the legit president of Somalia who has no power whats so ever a president on paper. What will alshabaab and xisbal islam next step be will they take on each other. Or will they form a real coalition against ahl sunna wal jamaca in gobolada dhexe. Debate.

Odayaal dhaqmeedku kuma jiiraan dagaalkan they will always say nabbada ha la ilaaliyo and axmed diiriye wa oday dhaqmeed.

wasiirka arimaha guddaha i heard he has zero political experience. And he is the one who refused to unite the tfg soldiers and the maxakiim soliders under one military force. How the hell dawlad ciidankeedu badh na cumamada xidhanyihin badh na uniform.

a clan war after all this looks good for the sharif he can counter attack the shabaab now.

25 ku dhimatay dagaaladii Muqdisho oo xoogeystay 10 May 10, 2009 - 1:48:51 PM Ugu yaraan 25-qof oo uu ku jiro sarkaal ka tirsan dowlada ayaa ku dhintay 57-kalena way ku dhaawacmeen dagaalo u dhexeeya Maxkamadaha Islaamka ee dowlada raacsan, Ururka Xisbul Islaam iyo Ururka Al-shabaab, kuwaasoo xalay [May 9] oo dhan ka socday Muqdisho. Dagaalada oo weli socda ayaa ka dhacaya xaafado ka tirsan degmooyin Wardhiigley iyo Yaaqshiid, iyadoo xoogaga Al-shabaab ay ku siqayaan goobo muhim ah oo ay maalmihii lasoo dhaafay ku sugnaayeen maleeshiyada Maxkamadaha; waxaana xaafadaha qaar daadsan maydad. Goobjoogayaal ayaa sheegay in dadka dhintay ay qaarkood madaafiic kula dhacday gurayhooda, iyadoo dadku ay saakay bilaabeen inay guryahooda ka cararaan, ayna dib ugu laabtaan goobaha lagu barokacay sida Ceelasha Biyaha. "Madaafiic iyo rasaas xoogan ayaa la isku dhaafsanayaa xaafado ay ka mid yihiin Suuqa Bacaad oo ka tirsan degmada Yaaqshiid... dagaalku wuxuu u dhexeeyaa Xisbul Islam oo gacan ka helaysa Al-shabaab iyo Maxkamadha taageersan dowlada" ayuu yiri Cumar Ismaaciil oo ka mid ahaa dadkii ka cararay guryahooda. Sidoo kale dadka deegaanada lagu dagaalamay ee degmada Yaaqshiid ayaa sheegay in xoogaga Maxkamadaha Islaamku ay xalay la wareegeen saldhiga Degmada Yaaqshiid, halkaasoo laga fara-maroojiyay Xisbul Islam. Dagaalka ka socda degmada Wardhiigley, gaar ahaa agagaarka Madaxtooyada ayaa wuxuu ka bilowday kadib markii baasuuke lala beegaday gaari uu leeyahay sarkaal ka tirsan dowlada, kaasoo la sheegay inuu dhintay, halka ilaaladiisa qaarkood ay dhaawacmeen. Madaafiic dhowr ah ayaa lala beegsaday Madaxtooyada [Villa Somalia], halkaasoo uu ku sugan yahay Madaxweyne Sh. Shariif, balse ma jirto khasaare ay sababeen madaafiicdaas oo la sheegay. Gudoomiyaha Ururka Xisbul Islam Sh. Cumar Iimaan oo horay dagaalka ugu tilmaamay mid aan wanaagsanayn ayaa ka dhawaajiyay inay dagaalka ku biireen markii la weeraray saldhigyo ay ku leeyihiin Muqdisho. "Ciidamo taabacsan Maxkamadaha Islaamka ayaa weeraray saldhigyada Wardhiigley iyo kan Yaaqshiid oo ay ciidamadeenu ku sugnaayeen, sidaa ayaanan dagaalka ugu biirnay, waana wadaynaa" ayuu yiri Sh. Cumar Iimaan. Dhaqaatiirta Isbitaalada Dayniile, Kaysaney iyo Madiina ayaa sheegay inay soo gaarayaan dhaawacyo kala duwan, iyagoo xusay in dhaawacyada qaarkood ay yihiin kuwo halis ah. Iskahorimaadyadan u dhexeeya kooxaha mucaaradka ah iyo ciidamada dowlada ayaa noqonaya kuwii ugu cuslaa ee ku dhexmara Muqdisho tan iyo markii ay ciidamada Ethiopia ka baxeen Somalia. Dadweyne badan ayaa ka firxanaya guryahooda, iyadoo ay soo baxayaan baaqyo lagu dalbanayo in dagaalka la joojiyo, mana jirto koox si gaar weli uga hadashay dagaalka. GAROWE ONLINE

some one needs to win runtii.

Your right puntland is part of somalia and the south. But they are a region with in somalia.but their part of the country is peaceful, see Somalia is 12 province its not that hard to bring 3 provinces of Somalia under one rule which one clan rules. For the passed 11 years, the real reason they made that region autonomous is because they want to reach the top position of Somalia based on clan basses and region basses. Simple puntland wa ku nabbad ina abdirashid na wa la dhuqaya sh hotel. so if xammer stays the same you don’t mind that’s why you don’t want to see a real winner .