threat saxib...they might as well be camels sitting in buhoodle..they have not even left the town yet. What threat, they tried to leave once and were scattered like rats across the hills. like i said saxib..wake up from the somali delusion, logically speaking can a population who overthrough africa's third largest army and government in its infancy be threatened by 300 boys and elder men. LOOOOOOOOL.

As much as i like negotiating and talks, the somali question is an existential battle for existence. example...! Somaliland claim all the former British protectorate based on treaties and international recognised borders during its independence in 1960 not based on clan but on its unification with Italian somalia, it requires this to move forward and join the club of nations which would benefit all its people. Puntland claims Sool and Sanag based on clan loyalties and its dream of becoming a dominant player in a federal state within Somalia for its clansmen. Southern Somalia claims both Somaliland and Puntland in federal system or central system based on a non-existent formula's and retoric and has been unstable for 18 years with islamic growing "islamic" movements fighting for supremacy which is similar to that of afghanistan. So you see my friend, this is an existential question? I will not negotiate my existence and submit to another man, particularly when i have been treated unjustly and attempted to be wiped out, cant take that chance, nor can you ! So lets continue to sharpen our swords and get back to it, may the best man win,its etheir we see justice and i get my right under international law to go back to my status in 1960, or after all of southern somalia wipes it self out, the last of us left will then wipe each other out until no one is left. ID RATHER LIVE ONE DAY AS A LION THEN A HUNDRED AS A SHEEP - ITALIAN PROVERB.

xudaydi...did i touch a raw nerve saxib? lets examine you..and your so called machir ...? Sanag region: Erigavo = 200,000 = Somalilander Maid = 25,000 = Somalilander Heis = 25,000 = Somalilander Garadag = 30,000 = Somalilander Celafweyn = 35,000 = Somalilander your so called machir, three little villages, las corey, badhan and dhahar of which together make up less then the population of erigavo. WHAT ARE YOU...? nothing..is the honoust answer. so keep dreaming. When it comes to Sool its the same Western Sool is entirely Somalilander along with the capital las canod. So like i said sit back down and grow some ball when you do my army will be ready.

loooooool, dreamers. I would advice you to spare your local population or what left of it, before its to late. because like i said before saxib, this is buhoodle verses the world, not SSC. Sool its largest city cainabo and las canod are part of Somaliland, says who...? SAYS MY MILITARY...! Sanag including its regional capital is mine, says who?? MY MILITARY ! so before you kill off the last bits of your population you should think twice.

BORING.... you can get martin luther king, mahatma gandhi and micheal jackson himself it still wont make a difference. THIS GAME IS OVER!!!!!!!!!

shekoo dumar. keep sitting down, when you grow some balls, my army is outside the city waiting. COME AND GET SOME !!!!!!!!

I know which rock paintings your talking about they are located in las gaal, locals know it as las cidle, what we saw was just the surface of it, a UCL trained somaliland bron archeologist found hundreds more read the gaurdian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/17/cave-paintings-found-in-somaliland when i went and saw these painting i saw, people dressed in white macawisis jumping, standing with their dogs, animals which have know gone extinct, them clapping their hands, a huge one sitting on a thrown think it was their king or something and right next to it the guide from the ministry of travel and tourism showed us their prison, a large hole in the ground were they would close with a huge bolder. the new cave painting show more, they show the oldest humans being ever recorded riding horses and more. I remember we had a road trip from hargaisa to burco like 4 times and every time it was amazing. the scenery, the farms, the people etc. Alxamdulilah.mashalah..dont forget to say that man.

As beautiful a country Somaliland is..mashalah ! the truth is..a white man is one thing, but some guy walking around..opening his mouth saying abowee iska waran, or abayo..is bound to attract alot of attention? maybe a bullet to the brain. these people are not like what you are use to in london, or north america. the little kids of somaliland can bully big teenagers in london ive seen it. So dont get eaten alive, when i went , it was after university i went with two friends from my university one from hargaisa and one from burco and we stayed there for 6 months. We traveled from coast to coast and what we saw was worth every penny, the spirit, awe and gratitude to God for giving us this land is permanently instilled. Somaliland is a really conservative islamic society, and most of the communist era somalia period relics have been renamed, or demolished. Islam is the dominant feature of the land, and clan obviously being a somali society no need to lie. But its not the same qabyalid as southern somalia or bosaso, qabyalid is more of a badge then an issue of conflict. People who fall within the borders of somaliland are welcomed like las canod, badhan or borama's population who have small naibourhoods within Hargaisa like isha borama. However if you dont hail from these people, or are not a refugee seeking brotherly help like the people of mugdisho for your own security dont consider somaliland as an option, and if you do good luck to you.

I think somalilanders have a long history of pushing the bar when it comes to possibilities amongst the somali's a race of some of humanities most vile, opportunistic and selfish people.Who even though the truth is self evident refuse to except it. I'll give you an example, as Hargaisa and Burco got bombed the CNN interviewed the somali ambassador while they showed pictures of these cities getting bombed she said " we do not have any information of any planes bombing hargaisa or burco, these are fabrications being propegated by the SNM rebels who are aiming to overthrough the government". looooooooooooooooooool, This is why Somalia collapsed, because of Jahilin like these. who used somalia not as a nation state for all its people but for there own interests and the end result was ugly and thats the reason for all the venom and mistrust. In relation to recognition, when a population are adamant about a decision to the point that they are willing to go to war over it, they will achieve it even if it mean invading the villages of bosaso all the way to mugdisho, and speaking as a somalilander i wanna try the peaceful approach first, if that doesn't work within the next few years or so, i will invade every inch of Somalia. THEN WHAT WILL U SAY....? fORGET SOMALILAND WHEN ALLL OF SOMALIA IS MINE...WHAT WILL YOU SAY? HOW HAS 18 YEARS OF RECOGNITION DONE ANYTHING FOR YOU? AS SCARED AS YOU ARE ABOUT MY SUCCESS AND YOUR FAILURES, IM ONE WORD AWAY FROM MY ULTIMATE GOAL, UNLIKE YOU HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH...AT ANY COST. All is not a lie though we are big dreamers, But in life it is only big dreamers who have the edge and the god given ability to put it into effect what only they can dare do and prosper and write your existence in the history books. As richard burton the famous explorer wrote about the Somalilanders, "these somali's are fiercely nationalist, as i walk through the nomadic plans they recite poetry regarding the Crimean war in Europe, i do not know how these people here know about a war happening in the heart of europe at present, I have come to respect them and they remind me much of ourselves". You are dealing with a whole different Somali species saxib, not like the people who were used as bridges across the jubba and shebelle. Today i am dominant by the grace of god, i created Somali nationalism, wrote your constitution, created your national anthem, united both states,fought for Djiboutis independence when you never even new were it was on the map. Wrote your language into written form, was the headquarters of the invasion of ethiopia giving more men then anyone. Destroyed your uncle siad barre and reduced his army to the soils of my country and you think you can tell me...that i cant get what i want. I have a long history of getting what i want and inshalah time will show you..that i will be a superpower one day in the horn of africa as i live under the shahada of the one true God.

THE FIRST...those the dust..of history will take away are the band of 300 so called SSC..men running around like rats. saxib I AM SSC...SOOL, SANAG AND CAYN ARE MINE. caynaibo is the largest city in Sool, its people are Somalilanders, Sanag 80% is Somalilander including the regional capital Erigavo.. Cayn..buhoodle, is also mine as the entire outside of the city is nomadic grazing land majority Somalilanders. The first part refers to this group of dreamers, keep dreaming. THE FUTURE OF SOMALIA ..IS BETWEEN SOMALILAND AND AL SHABAB EVERY OTHER PLAYER...will be something of the past.

I believe the coming few months and the coming years the somali quagmire will be left with two players. This is what many experts are arguing today. As you know Somali's are emotional people, each one trying to vow supremacy for their respected little village that bares no important to east africa or the wider world at large. Logically, when a situation is exmained, you can not go on the basis of hearsay, you have to go on borders, or military power i.e. who controls what militarily, so in what was refered to as Somalia is examined, it can be divided today into three Somaliland , Puntland and Somalia respectively. Thats how the U.N. divides it and the world. I believe like dust...these non existent entities will be swept with the wind in time, (mark my words). Other weaknesses include according to experts it has already lost much of its support as its combat with somaliland troops has left it weaker not stronger, it also fails to find any real way to "liberate" las canod or even bring any development. over the next few months it is highly unlikely that this group of a few hundred men, with very little weapons can become any threat what so ever furthermore their elders have lost faith in them as well as stated by them a few weeks ago on the BBC So, three authorities.Puntland..on the other hand, economically, security, politically and militarily has over the past few years become a non-grata (none-existent) entity.Its armed forces have failed to secure what they call its eastern front, namely las canod and eastern sanag, economically it is in dire straights as inflation rocks it due to high levels of fake currency. High number of shootings and criminality are also not stable for business or economies. In my opinion, the only true viable entities that will determine the future of the horn of africa are Southern Somalia and its Al-shabab leadership who by majority are mainly criminal entities who travled from Somaliland to Southern Somalia, as most people dont know Godane was a theif in Somaliland before becoming a wadad in Somalia ( man its like another world over there). Al shabab has managed to secure most of southern somalia. The lands that they have managed to take over are safe, functional, stable and economically viable. like those of Somaliland, they have huge population bases, such as kismayo, bay**** etc, were taxation and man power can be drawn from, similar to that of Somaliland. However al shabab lacks a strong governmental system of tax collecting and question remain if in an islamic state tax form muslims is halal or haram, islamically it states that tax can only be collected form christiens and jews or non muslims for protection, that why saudi arabia doesnt collect tax. So if al-shabab can not collect taxes then how are they to fund there army, pay wages, or finance there objectives? THIS IS A REAL QUESTION? As for somaliland, the country has a new government , the man is old, he is 75 years old, no one know what he will be like. However unlike Somalia the house of Gurti has the power to over through any government in power if it is against the interest of the state and put it to an automatic election to get a better government, so there are systems in place that gurentee a stable credible government. There are a few non-existent entities here and there however most of these seem to be organised by people abroad with no real credibility in the state except with a few. Economically, it still premature to tell, what the situation will be, as the currency Somaliland shilling is stable, increasing and trade especially in private enterprise is good. Alot of diaspora investment also goes home yearly. The country also has a strong tax system which stretches from the djibouti border to las canod and this provides for the army, and government workers with an income and military hardware. The international community has also promised assistance as well as Ethiopian military hardware if alshabab threaten the security of Somaliland. Furthermore the referendum in Southern Sudan as it becomes the first non-colonial state in africa to gain independence will as some experts argue open the doors for Somaliland's own case in the african union, as their excuse currently would no longer be credible because of the case of Southern sudan. So this year will be an interesting year, now..like good somali's that you are..get back to talking garbage.

i would be careful saxib what you say because, your so called "somalidid-land" controls your little non-important village of las canod and if we are nothing, what does that make you? I hope SSC get a casuumad from the white house itself...because when all this garbage is shown for what it is, the reality..for those who can see reality...is that the same from that flys over Borama flys over Erigavo and Eastern sanag, the same one flies over las canod. So ..like they say talk is cheap saxib, you have been talking garbage for the past 18 years. If you can stop me then stop me, if not then join the ranks and move over. because i know you cant stop me. WITH OR WITHOUT RECOGNITION..DO YOU THINK SSC..BUTTLAND ARE EQUAL WITH SOMALILAND. The country that unified the somali states in 1960...if i want anything in Somalia i can get it, the world is ready to give it me, but i have chosen seperation over taking over all. SO BE GRATEFUL, BUT DONT BE DECIEVED, IF I WANT IT I CAN HAVE SOMALIA AS WELL, ALONG WITH YOUR LITTLE USELESS VILLAGES.

saxib...as some burn the flag others kiss it like the rest, there are minorities across hargaisa burco who still dream of somalia..but they are small in number and tend to just be confused with unemployment etc. If 80% of awdal perticipated in the election that should tell you that they are more then interested in somaliland. but keep trying, keep trying...i know how you like to spin anything from awdal...i remember a few months ago 12 teenagers burned a somaliland flag they started scream...its the end of somaliland...ahhhhhhh...awdall...ahhhh ! keep trying saxib, but the same flag flys over las canod, hargaisa, burco and berbera, erigavo, borama, zeilla, sheick, odwyene etc. and it will NEVER COME DOWN !!!!

loooool....correction saxib...the ones in qurbaha are losing it, the teenagers back home are ten times more intelligent then these people here in Europe or North America. Top people back home, poets, educated, patriotic, business orientated. but these ones...seem like the society they grew up in a bit strange. saxib...qaxontiga bila wadanka aah oo i faninaya..bosaso..tula yaar o 100,000 ba gadin, o kaloon u ortaa..2 buul na ay ka disayn waba riwayad. ilahayo ya tusaa..nimcada Somaliland...berahena galbeedka...hawdkenna geelka iyo adiga..fardoyinka..biyaha..iyo dawga. Buraha goliska..iyo bada caas, himilada burco..iyo ciideda. Buraha erigavo, iyo garadag, burta dallo o galbiga ka so sarayo..las canod iyo dumarkeda. ALXAMDULILAH...RABIL...CALA.MIIN ! ILAHAYO..MAXAD DUUL IYO WADAN AD NA SISAY.. i remember driving off from hargaisa at 12:00, getting to the red sea..for lunch, going for a dip, and leaving the hot red sea and going up back in elavation to hargaisa..as it rained on me. I can remember the neon green grass of borama as a stood in the fields, and watched the kids go to school in the morning, i can remember eating steak down town and sipping on tea with pure fresh..cows milk. I can remember getting a hair cut in burco as me my friends stayed up in the patio of the villa chatting. man, alxamdulialah ! anyways...enjoy being homeless, Qurbo kids.

Lets just have a reality check of the situation, 200 onlf men...on hired eriterian boats, tip toed off the Somaliland coast at NIGHT ...were 2 trucks waiting for them already pre-planed by some individuals in western saxil region not awdal, were the trucks waited, and at night they drove into the western mountains of awdal, were within a few hours they were sorrounded and trucks and weapons and some men seized, while the rest remain like rats in hidding dispearced, latest report saying that 200 have been killed before entering the ethiopian border. So saxib, its another somali strategy gone wrong and as bad as we feel about somali's living in Ethiopia.. they should struggle islamically instead of killing muslims and burning there vehicles. there is not only clan that inhabit that land 1/3 of the somali territory of ethiopia is settled by Somalilanders. But they live and work and prosper. the incident started and was finished within a few days, unlike the real men. alshabab...and attam who in broad day light walked into a territory and took it over and stayed and still stays and has still not been removed, even though buttland state of somalia has taken hundreds of child conscripts and thrown them into the conflict, when will they learn children can not fight. Somali's == up is down and down is up ....walahi wa jahaliin...man i think these peoples times is up...nothing to offer humanity, nothing to offer each other, except the garbage that little kids who have never even been there spew on the internet. for anyone who knows about somalia...come from somaliland...puntland..or somalia. they all know...the truth. SOMALILAND CREATED THE SOMALI NATION..LANGUAGE..AND IS THE HEART OF IT ALL, IT WAS AND WILL BE..BUT NOW CHANGED. MUGDISHO AND SOUTHERN SOMALIA IS THE ECONOMIC HUB..THE GREEN FERTILE FARMING LANDS...THE TWO RIVERS AND RESOURCE. AND THEY ALL KNOW THAT PUNTLAND WAS JUST A CONCOCTION CREATED IN 1998 IN XASIDNIMO..A DESERT WASTELAND THAT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING..EVERYONE KNOWS THIS...EXCEPT THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN.

no christiens on MUSLIM SOIL......... NOT NOW NOT EVER.... WE GOTTA REMOVE SILANYO..LESS THEN A MONTH IN OFFICE AND ETHIOPIANS MOVING IN AND OUT. SAXIB, HIS SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING IS A GUDI... GUDIGA..BULACADA IYO XAARKA.. EXECUTIVE DECREE...THATS THE RIYALE STYLE. UDUB ....WE WANT UDUB...

Any man who lives in exile or dies in exile after "ruling" a country is no great man but what can i say it seems like a family tradition to die in exile, Said abdulle hassan, Siad barre, Abdullahi yusuf..they have or will most likely die in exile, the man with sharaf, dies on his native soil without fear. these men dont have any sharaf what so ever, they are just part of the same vermon entity that has curropted the somali people for decades, they are only begining to realise it now. the future saxib is, A southern dominated government in the south, a northern dominated government in the north and the total silencing of everything in between. SOMALILAND AND SOMALIA !!! WATCH YOU WILL SEE.

since when did the ONLF get marines....loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool !!! looool, walahi pathetic is an under statement for these people, and thats why i support total seperation of the two states of Somaliland and Somalia. If i was up to me saxib i would build the berlin wall..on the border and mine the thing, so not even a bird or a rodent can pass through, that how much i wanna stay away from these people and there ignorance.

like i said, somali's will never get no were saxib especially dukes lot..because saxib xasideen waxaba ma gadaan. furthermore, according to somaliland secret service the CID these had three pick ups and a few light hand guns...out of the three pick ups, two have been already captured and most of the men. So again my theory is correct xasideeeeeeen...will never see advancement because they wish me ill. a man who wishes ill, has a black heart and thus never gets anywhere in life. SAXIB....I DESTROYED SIAD BARRE AND AFRICA'S THIRD LARGEST ARMY, WHEN I WAS A REBEL GROUP, I HAVE A NATION THAT IS PIRATE FREE..FROM COAST TO COAST...I HAVE THE LARGEST STANDING ARMY OF THE SOMALI SPEAKING PEOPLES, I CONTROL YOUR LITTLE VILLAGES AND MAKE YOU RUN AS I PLEASE, YOU ASK ME FOR PERMISSION TO ENTER LAS CANOD. AND YOU THINK A FEW MEN...CAN THREATEN MEEEEEE ?? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, STOP DREAMING SAXIB !!! STOP LIEING TO YOURSELVES, STOP LIVING IN A WORLD OF YOUR OWN IMAGINATION. WAKE UP TO THE REALITY THAT I AM HERE, I AM A STATE AND I WILL BE HERE, ALSHABAB...BRING THEM ON...I GOT THE ENTIRE WESTERN WORLD AND ETHIOPIA READY TO ARM ME TO THE TEETH...PUNTLAND...SAXIB PUNTLAND DOESNT EXIST, IT EXISTS ONLY IN THE MINDS OF LITTLE KIDS IN THE DIASPORA LIKE OUR LITTLE FRIEND DUKE. LOOOOOOOOL, ARE THESE PEOPLE FOR REAL. MAA ANIGA WALAAN MISE CAADAN BA LAGA HASAAYA..WALAHI !!LOOOOOOOOL, FUNNY PEOPLE !

let me ask you guys a question? those who subscribe to the theory of maxhir...? Do you claim erigavo as your own city? (just to highlight this to the population of cerigavo who are somalilanders, which comprise of 95% of the city of erigavo and more then 80% of the region of Sanaag, with the exception of the little villages of badhan, las qorey and dahar. which has small populations in comparison). ok if you dont, and you are a small small minority of mainly women and children in the city, then clearly maaxhiir as an entity, can not function because saxib, three villages of populations of less then 5 -10 thousand can not function? So the question remain, Somaliland does not recognise Maxhiir, it recognises a region now called bahdan which comprises of Far Eastern Sanaag. So regardless of this disney land debate, you choice remain. JOIN SOMALILAND AND LIVE IN PEACE WITH THE SAME PEOPLE YOU HAVE LIVED WITH FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS, OR RETURN TO SOMALIA AND BACK TO A CULTURE OF DEATH AND TIT FOR TAT, OF WHICH HISTORY SHOWS WE ALWAYS WIN. THATS THE CLEAR CHOICE...NOW RETURN TO THE FAIRYTALE DEBATE.

in relation to seccessionist objectives...looooool! secceed from what saxib, somalia doesnt exist. example two brothers...handcuffed together one gets shoot in the head, his body is lifeless and the other finds the key..saxib, its that simple. Somalida wa xasadin...the issue of somaliland is not about seccessionism, because Somaliland saxib created Somaliweyn and unified the two states, it argued for the liberation of Ethiopias fifth region were alot of its people live, and djibouti. The issue is about in reality, i dont want them to succeed because they will be better then me, thats why Somali's are cursed and nothing works out for them politically, look at southern somalia..look at puntland..non existent in name only entities. Go to Adis abba the ques of people from bosaso..asking to leave going from embassy to embassy, is a tragedy. nothing will work out for you, until you want say may Allah give you the best, may Allah give you success, peace and prosperty. The day Somalia says I except the legitimate right of my brothers if they have chosen that route, i respect it, you will see everything work for you. Look at Somaliland compared with the rest of you? its because they have a different mentality, thats why Allah has shown them mercy and development. while you get death, human trafficing, piracy, inflation that is ridiculous and everything imaginable.

jacayl baro...you are debating with people who saxib dont really care. They will use small print and make that an issue..ie...example. WORLD PEACE AND WAR DAY...is for them WORLD WAR DAY! they choose what they wanna see. one is allegedly claiming to be from erigavo a town he has never been too or never will, because it is a seperate country, thats the only reason why he wants federalism, federalism entails he will have erigavo and still be part of his so called state. the other guy, understanding that national soverignty is national soverignty, no one is infringing on national soverigty they are simply saying, that it will be the main user of the port, but ultimately is somalilands says no...its no..ethiopia can not force us to use our port. simple !!!!

the one block president...enjoy the last few months in mugdisho, any man who brings christeins onto muslim soil...i would spit on his face, calls himself a wadad, as the president when you are asked about it on Judgement Day, he will be responsible for everyone who was killed by the foreign troops, he will be asked about every ******* child they give birth to, he will be asked about his conduct. Give your lecture Sharif, but you are no shieck, or if you are a shieck..your a so called shieck who has never read the Quran. Inshallah, mugdisho and its people find peace, inshalah the forieign troops get taken out, and inshalah you get a xalal government.Amen.

alshabab are confused, they got it about 40% right but they are going about it all wrong. but whether you like them or not. All logic and history shows they will take over Southern Somalia, with little skirmishes with other groups looking like a normal daily occurance. But the impact it will have on the world will be greater. Ethiopia will piss itself, Egypt will without doubt jump on the situation and form a coalition with them, the arab world and international jihadists will support and fund them to the extant that they could be a dominant power in the region. On the other side, Somaliland will get the same support if not more from the western world leading to the extent that eventually they will clash...its xaram to kill a muslim, regardless of he is practising or not so neither side will fight, if they know the koran. if there somali ignorant people then they will most likely wipe each other out. Allah knows best.

they achieved it because they live under the Shahada...when they lived under somalia they murdered and raped one another and fought bitter wars. no the common policy is, ISLAM - THE INDIVIDUAL, THE FAMILY THE STATE - SOMALILAND. Somalia is dead saxib, Somaliland is the temporary solution until we get an islamic world order. because we need to develop, we need to keep growing and it provides that and stability, all this democracy bulls**t doesnt mean anything, what we wait for is an islamic world order, and until we get that we have a xalal government with the shahada on its flag.