Hawdian;981954 wrote: . You do know that under the italian colonial rule no waleweyn was allowed inside MOG after sun set. How can they feel anything for a Moqdisha , Marka or Barawa when they are not the original people. Ask these Q' to the Xamarcadad barawnese or watermalyan not the galgadud cousins There was a lot of those kind of rules. The Italians also founded entire towns such as Jowhar founded by Italian Luigi Amedeo, Duca degli Abruzzi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jowhar

Talaabo Do not speak of things you have no knowledge of. Afka isku xiidh. Puntland is mainly one sub clan M Saleeban project and those are not my reer abti. So how am I hating on my "identity" Lol. I am not related to Faroole, Cadde Muuse, Abdulahi Yusuf etc.

SomaliPhilosopher If anything that shows Somaliland superiority, they refused to be categorized with the Bantus of Kenya. Rather they told the colonials what is up, it is thanks to them that Somalis are respected there before all those southern refugees fled to the place and lowered the reputation with their terrorism.

Hey don't get butt hurt. You burnt Mogadishu down for over 22 years and require thousands of foreigners to civilize you and keep the little peace. I think that pretty much says a lot about southerners.

spartacus;981931 wrote: The guy who tried to build this helicopter has ambition just imagine if this guy is an engineering special mechanical engineer or automation, i hear it wasn't successfull to complete because it needs solid background in mechanics etc, good try though!! Very true. They built it with very limited funding and local resources.

No dear. I simply compared the difference between south Somalia (anything south of Galkayo) to this Sland engineers. While some enjoy anarchy, terrorism, begging Turkish others are busy building helicopters without any aid.

I think you missed the definition of south Somalia..

I always knew Somalilanders had higher IQ than the rest of the pack (south Somalians). The helicopter just needs a stronger helicopter rotor blade. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201516864117102&set=vb.162537497102301&type=2&theater The government of Somaliland should give funding to this engineers so they can complete it earlier like this.

Safferz;981806 wrote: That's because clan is at the core of Somaliland nationality whether it's openly stated or not, and citizenship through paternal inheritance is the only way of ensuring the clan makeup of the country stays the same. I can't think of another constitution in the world (in the 21st century) that excludes women from full rights of citizenship in this way, and it's something Somaliland will have to rethink if it wants to continue fashioning itself as a democratic, politically stable "oasis" in the Horn. Incidentally, Wadani's agreement with Somaliland's citizenship law does confirm Nin Yaaban's theory that racists and tribalists are often the same people The exclusionary logic is the same. Well that is true. It is one of the things Somaliland is something to be prideful about. We have to maintain our strong identity. You have to understand Somalilanders have a experience of other people trying to project a different demographics to their lands example (Siad Bare), so they are cautious about outsiders being given Somaliland citizenship. If we let millions of others inside our country, they can simply revolt and it will create tensions between them and the locals. So it is understandable why they made their constitution that way and constantly deport Oromos and southern Somalis.

Look what the Palestinians are going through (much worse than Somalis) look what Syrians are going through, but you don't see them selling their women short to non Arabs because they have pride. So regardless of the situation Somalia is in, it doesn't mean it is ok for them to give the go ahead for their women to be taken in Mogadishu whether it is Bantus or Turks.

Mad Mullah I don't condone that either. In Somaliland if your father is not a Somalilander you will be looked down on as a non native like that Nimcaan guy, he talked about how he faced racism and wants to leave Somaliland (his father is white). It was always like that, were's in the south they are more open to those things whether the Italians or present day Bantus/Turks. Even thousands of Italians were born in south Somalia.

Well in that case it is Re-Mongrelization since most of the reer xamar cad cad people fled Mogadishu during the wars, the Turks are mongrelizating Mogadishu this time.

Aroos ka dhacay Mogadishu oo uu dhaxeeya nin Turkish ah iyo gabar reer Mogadishu ah.

What does the constitution of Somalia say about Somalia citizenship for people born to Somali women and foreign fathers? In Somaliland in order to be considered a Somalilander majority of the time one has to have a Somaliland father to be a Somalilander.

Well it is a upgrade from marrying jailbirds I guess.

Why don't you man up instead of expecting the Oromos to do your bidding? Given up on ONLF already?

This is not about Somaliland locals but how to stop illegal trafficking of southerners. Somaliland will not be a hub for southern terrorism, this new measures will be used to deter criminals from Somalia entering Somaliland freely. Somalia passport is useless anyway.

The move is directed towards people from Somalia not locals.

You can travel to Ethiopia with a Somaliland passport, same goes for Djibouti.

With Somaliland passports.

Xukuumadda Somaliland oo Mamnuucday in Baasaboorka Soomaaliya ee E-Passport-ka aan lagaga bixi karin Somaliland https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Oct/wararka_maanta15-33704.htm

Mad Mullah Last I checked those in Ocaden are also crying about Ethiopian genocide. Shall we brush aside their grievances and say there was no genocide? That they should remain as part and parcel of Ethiopia. Are you ready to embrace your Ethiopian roots?

They have been part of Kenya for decades and they are only getting roads now Lol? That explains the sad state of affairs in NFD.

That is more likely to come first than the liberation of Las Canood .

Taleexi Isn't that rich coming from a Khaatumo supporter? Last I knew Cali Galaydh was still robbing the Khaatumo women off their little gold in the never coming liberation of Las Canood.