Originally posted by mantra: Ngonge you look familiar Doubt it. I’ve always been a hermit that does not know any computer-using females in real life. So, I’m prepared to wager all my future earnings that I’m not as familiar as you think.

Abu Geeljire, Was that a rhetorical question or did you not bother reading what I wrote too?

Reminds me of the joke about the guy who upon looking at the face of his newborn daughter, sighed, and then happily exclaimed: thank god for makeup!

Check out the last two seconds Edit: For those that don't understand the rest of the Arabic, he thinks he got cut off. Viva the TFG.

Originally posted by Alle-ubaahne: I also salute the SOL heroes including, among many, Castro, Xiinfaniin, Sh. Nur, Alle-ubaahne, Xoogsade, Taliban, (there are some girls that I really admired of their positions towards the struggle, but I am sorry that I don't recall their names now). Jizaakalaah kheyr all of you! Priceless insanity

Henry DOES dive. He doesn't do it often enough because he usually doesn't need to. But he does dive when the opportunity presents itself. As for the Israel advertisement, flip the coin and think what those poor Israelis that support arsenal feel every time they see that their beloved team’s ground is called Emirates! It’s a one-one draw methinks. Ps I used to think Lampard was overrated but looking at his record in the past three seasons I don’t think anyone could begrudge him his position amongst the best midfielders in the world. I’m a Liverpool fan yet I rate him higher than our captain fantastic. Gerard is a better runner, tackler and leader but he lacks Lampard’s guile and positional sense. Ever see him at the edge of the penalty area? It always seems contrived and laboured. He seems to be appearing from five hundred yards back and wallops the ball as hard as he can hoping that he’ll score (which he luckily does). Lampard on the other hand reads the game better and almost all of his goals look effortless. They are not of course. It’s all about movement and positioning.

^^^ Oooh the subtleties of the written word! Only her composition, flaw and organisation of ideas don’t at all imply the existence such subtlety or the ability to ‘write’ between the lines, saaxib. If the case of this imprisoned guy is true then I sincerely hope he’s released and would wish that he would receive proper and full compensation for his troubles. I do not at all champion oppression of anyone and, not surprisingly, have little faith in the Somaliland judicial system (the intentions might be noble but the practice, I’m sure, leaves a lot to be desired). Thus far, I’m sure you and I are of the same idea. Now, would you kindly afford us some air of respect and admit that this lady’s letter was nothing but a simple, incoherent and aggravating rant?

Heh. Inferiority complex on a grand intensity there! But the question still stands, why can’t black people build prosperous societies? My personal take on this revolves around culture and civilisation. There doesn’t seem to be such a thing in black Africa (I stand to be corrected of course). Corruption, war and poverty do not come out of thin air. They must have a link to the societies they occur in! Is it the black character? Are we too emotional? Too disorderly? Stubborn? One might say that YES we are all of the above and a bit more. But is that a part of our genetic makeup (as the author seems to imply - he didn’t offer any answers)? I strongly disagree with that idea. I believe it’s only part of our social structures and cultures. Could it be a coincidence that in almost all parts of black Africa corruption is something to be proud of? Just cast your mind back to one of those Nigerian, Congolese and Ivorian e-mails that one regularly receives in their hotmail inbox! In our very own Somalia a conman, charlatan and crook is considered a ‘fariid’ whilst a straight, law-abiding and decent person is looked upon as a ‘*****’! Africa’s real problem is it’s primitive and crude culture. The author talks about Ethiopia’s literacy level but he conveniently ignores the high levels of superstition and myths that dominate that culture (and many other African cultures). What’s the point of having all the wisdom and learning in the world if it can’t cleanse you from all these primitive falsehoods?

Originally posted by checkmate: @FF, Ma odayaashii baa hadana meel kaa mari la'a. Ngonge, I never took you for muruqyo weyne type. waar it’s hardened hide or you can call it dry baroor.

^^^Thanks for the compliment. Here! Have it back If there's anything that you want, If there's anything I can do, Just call on me and I'll send it along With love from me to you.

^^ Seeing that I'm not familiar with the phone I was using I actually think the results were great. A work of art of a work of art methinks.

I took someone's phone and was about to take pictures of the snow (for the other thread) but the damn snow has already melted! So, having a camera phone in my hand and this thread on my screen I stumbled upon a great idea! Behold my silhouette and bask in my imposing shadow :cool: <img src=" Of course I'm not even sure if it works.

Try Flickr I have never uploaded a photo from my PC into SOL (or anywhere) else so I have no idea if this will work. The sign up part bores me.

^^^ Heh. Heh. Heh At least your name is not Aisha, admin

Originally posted by Northerner: Ibtisam Right click on the image you want to post and copy its property addres which end in jpg the paste it onto the site by clicking image, past then walla! ^^^ Don't Ibtisam. You need to upload the photos into a photo-sharing site and then copy the URL into the 'image' part of this site (I think). If you do what North here just told you to you'll probably show us the path to the image in your C drive. And if your IT department are competent at all they have probably named your PC after you, etc. Can just imagine something like: C:Documents and SettingsAisha-DualehMy DocumentsMy PicturesLondon.jpg to appear on this thread any minute now

Heh. She wrote an Open Letter pleading for what amounts to a presidential pardon and did not even have the good manners (or common sense) to at least play along and address it to Somaliland? Surely she does not expect her letter to even be read by anyone of influence in that part of the world! This is just a publicity stunt rather than a genuine letter, right? Still, the silly woman did not follow her ‘North-Western’ insult through and made the mistake of referring to Riyaale as President!

Originally posted by Northerner: ^^I see the District Line is working then ps take some pics with your phone and post them. I know your a bit of a techi so no excuses I don't have a phone. How many times do I have to tell you this? But, a guy in the office has a camera and was talking about taking some photos. I'll see if he'll lend me his photos. Val, I know you live in the middle of nowhere but I'm sure you can find a bus or a donkey cart to transport you to London (if you really wanted to). You just want to watch Trisha, don't you?

^^^ Sabina lost her case. The Law Lords took the view that a person's right to hold a particular religious belief was absolute (i.e. could not be interfered with), but that a person's right to manifest a particular religious belief was qualified (i.e. it could be interfered with if there was a justification). The above is from Wiki. However you will also find it in the Law Lords' judgment (first link). This quote alone clearly answers your questions and, at the same time, questions your contention. The current case is similar. And if it goes to court, the lawyers for the school will only use the previous cases as precedents to prove that this girl’s human rights have not been violated. I repeat to you, this is all about common sense not faith. This girl and all the others before her are not totally restricted from attending schools. They can attend anytime as long as they abide by the rules of that particular school. Furthermore, the existence of alternatives is what undermines their claim that their freedoms have been restricted! Your argument, after all is said and done, seems to be: "I shall do what I want and to hell with the consequences". It’s confrontational, futile and counterproductive. Think it over, ayaayo.

^^^ Heh. I usually never open my office curtains. The sun reflection on my screen hurts my eyes. But today, I opened them and I’m just enjoying the beautiful scenery. On one side, Hyde Park looks like one big white carpet. The Harrods Dome is covered in snow and the ugly Berkley Hotel looks grim. On the other side (the open plan part of the company) the Gherkin looks majestic, Big Ben Dickensian and the London Eye could easily be mistaken for a windmill that’s producing all this snow. When I’m indoors I madly, deeply and entirely love the snow. ps It's a good day when Val is prevented from prowling the London streets. Though I’ve got to question the reliability of her excuse for not going to work.

^^^ Kimiya, It’s all good and well to stick up for your fellow Muslims and, here, we don’t needd to do this. We are discussing it amongst ourselves, ayaayo. Don’t let it get to you. The act is selfish and has/will have a bad impact on all other girls. Remember the last time we had a similar argument here and your stance that if the laws exist they should be used? What happened to the Niqab-wearing teacher? Remember the Jilbab-wearing schoolgirl? Both lost their cases (I think). Was it a big shock that they both lost? Was it totally unfair and unexpected? Surely it’s just common sense. They chose to fight for a noble cause in the wrong battleground (schools)! They went against simple common sense when, in almost all cases, they did have other alternatives. Have these latest ones not heard about the ones before them? It’s all about common sense and reason. Unlike the French, the Brits have not attempted to introduce laws to limit the Freedom of Expression of Muslims (not yet anyway – the control orders for terror suspects is a story of its own). So far, all the precedents that were made and came as a result of Muslim action (nay stubbornness). The laws so far did not upset reason. To say ‘what can we do if someone else bans the hijab’ is to present a read herring into the argument. Surely that’s more to do with siege mentality rather than genuine analysis. Why would another organisation attempt to ban the hijab? Under what circumstances? Are their requests reasonable? Etc.. On the case of this 12-year-old, the Headmaster has made a reasonable request. The one before him might have used his own discretion but this one (going by reason alone) is within his rights (as a headmaster) to demand that the young girl ditch her niqaab whilst at school. You know and I know that with or without the token gesture of that Muslim organisation, this girl is going to lose her case. It’s about a school’s ability to apply rules and policies. No court will allow the girl to get away with her choice of clothing (faith aside). Where does that leave us? Another case and another loss? Hmmm! Now your red herring might come in handy and one could say: what if the actions of these girl and others before her lead some organisation to have the courage to ban the hijab? Do you follow me, ayaayo? It’s not about blind support here. It’s about common-bloody-sense. ps Two Balls, how dare you address me in anyway, shape or form? The only balls I talk to are usually mine and even then I never do so in public. Who the hell did you think I was. War orodo magaca badal..mala yacni fooqal mala yacni..

Originally posted by Kimiya: I say, it furthers divisions within the Muslim community, confuses the non-Muslims on the veil and tramples upon individual freedoms, which is most un-Islamic. Also, in response to the head teachers excuse, divisive is to impose your own ideas on appropriate dress on others. Both sides are not doing any of us any favours here. A 12-year-old wearing a niqaab and an organisation that sees how silly this is coming out and openly fighting it! You really couldn’t make any of it up even if you tried. I don’t at all agree with the schoolgirl and her family. Their actions are selfish and unnecessary. This business of ‘freedom of expression’ that you speak about, ayaayo, is akin to the old Islamic tale of the guy in the boat that decided to dig a hole in his own section knowing full well that the boat will sink as a result. It’s all about his freedom of expression, after all! There are strict rules to adhere to and then there are compromises. The niqaab, by the agreement of most scholars, is not a strict necessity. Yet, everyday you get some Muslim women causing a furore over their insistence to wear the niqaab and their freedom of expression! One, surely, cannot have two masters. Are you fighting for Islamic rights or for Western style freedoms? The Islamic organisation that offered to fight against this and pay the fees don’t even seem to realise the connotations of their actions and the impression they give (to Muslims, Westerners don’t concern me here). Theirs is a worse mistake than the girl and her family. For at lest the girl and her family are only individuals representing themselves and their mistakes (or otherwise) can only be attributed to them. But when a so-called Islamic organisation enters the fray and declares against its fellow Muslims, it has drawn the battle lines and signalled a clear starting point for squabbling and division! It’s a great shame that there does not seem to be any common sense or at least an agreement on what we should consider as ‘common sense’ (middle ground, et).

The Only diver at Liverpool is the goalkeeper and even then, he usually dives the wrong way. ps Wasn't Johnson accused of being a diver by none other than Jose himself? Hmmmmmm!

^^^ Pssst...the original thread was written almost five years ago.

Andy Johnson cheats a lot This from someone supporting a team that has Drogba and Robben! Andy Johnson may not be world class but he's much better than many in the league. He's not at all a league one player (check how many goals he scored. And no, not after missing many chances). ps Out of the top four the one player that really caught my eye is OBAFIMI MARTINS The man has pace, can head and also has a wicked shot on him. He's wasted on Newcastle.

Exackhtly! I remember the advert but did that little boy grow up to be someone famous? Who? Not Gerrard surely!