It was only last month when Alpha told us that he's getting married and now his offspring are running all over the place!

The plot thickens. I wonder what Siilaanyo's reasons were for this visit at this point in time. Why when the SSC conference is about to take place does he go and visit the place and cause such a provocation that may tip the balance on the side of those supporting the SSC movement? What does he stand to gain from such a visit? Is it to score a point against the SL opposition (Udub & Ucid) or to prove something to the International Community? Is it to prove a point to the SSC themselves? Something does not add up here! p.s. It's also strange that there have not been many protests about this visit. When Somalis oppose something, they usually come out to the street with their banners even a week after the deed was done. What gives?

Finally a Somali PM that is making use of the media. Wonder what made him do it? Could it be all those gold snatching wadaads that are hogging the airwaves? If you're reading this Mr PM (and I'd be exteremly disappointed if you were), I advise you to do more interviews (ala Chavez). Your strength (and weakness) lies in the hand of the qurbajoog single mothers. Win their support and you win Somalia.

I hereby declare that on the 1st of November 2011, Zack is going to join my small (but growing) band of men who finally saw the light and realised that ALL WOMEN ARE CRAZY.

What an interesting life he leads!

Surely the religious principles in whose cause alshabaab fight and die does not condone such an evil act. So in the face of bewildering alshabaab actions and the contradictions it presents to its political manifesto, which is Islamic in nature, I pose the question to the gallery: why would they do it? To filter out frivolous answers, assume that alshabaab is a serious organization whose actions are intended to meet tactical or strategic goals. Assume that alshabaab does not act impulsively but rather in a calculated fashion and out of some sort of a plan. You're asking us to make far too many assumptions, saaxib. In addition, you are already making the assumption that Al Shabab's brand of Islam is similar to yours or mine. What puzzles me about this thread of yours is its timing! Al Shabab killed lots of people in that Hotel bombing in 2009. They killed many more in Uganda in 2010. Why did the other day's bombing shock you that much that it prompted you to start this thread and (unwittingly, I hope) make it sound as if such evil action is not in Al Shabab's nature?

We have two death threads on the site today. With Steve Job, people are listing all the inventions he made and talking about his company. I do hope that you guys don't follow suit and start belting out some songs on here. One day, we'll all go. Wonder what we'll leave behind!

I see VAL did well. Never thought forward planning was one of her strong points. Darn hippies, always surprising me.

iMourn...

^^ It's a punctuation and sound problem, he's never sure where the full stop should go or when to raise his voice or lower it "Aniga..oo..AH..madaxweynaha Somaliland Axmad maxmoud Siilaanyo..WAXAN..idin idhi..INAAN..anigo..madaxweynhiina..AHAY..ictiraafka na wuu soo socda..WAXA..iigu balan qaday..Melez Zenaawi... Kaambiinka xisbiga Kulmiye..BARIGEE..aan wadnay..WAXAAN..idiin ku balan qaaday..INAAN..anigu..MARKAAN..madaxweyne noqdo..ictiraaf..KEENO..labaatan..SANNO..ayaan..O...dagalamaynay ictiraafkan dhaw..WAXAAN..idin ku hambalyiinaya..in u..ictiraafka..so dhowahay..ARRINTA..abaaraha na..WAXBAAN..ka..qabaan doona. WA BI LAAHI...tawfiiq"

^^ War aduunko wuu is badalay dee. Hada odayo iyo madaxweynaal ayaa "uf" ku leh.

^^ I'm not always stuck to my desk. You know, receptionists to flirt with, meetings to fall asleep in, etc.

^^ I need to talk sense into you warya. I will note it down for our next meeting.

^^ Nice to see you take the easy way out. XX, I have no shaqaalo there saaxib. In fact, sarkaalka shaqaalaha badan leh waa ninkan aad la hadlayso, aniga maha. But he seems lost in his blind support for president 'uf'.

Perception, convention and common sense are complex things as well as being very simple. Not being an expert on the subject or the origins of common sense, I can’t possibly explain the process in which something that makes sense becomes common, in other words, common sense! However, I know of many things that make sense to me but would not be understood by the majority of people. Likewise, I’m sure there are things that most people agree on but I personally would find hard to fathom. It seems that common sense is (usually) some sort of unwritten agreement whereby everyone instantly recognises an act, thought or opinion to be a sensible one and therefore all vouch for it. Then again, there are occasions where common sense is forced upon us by government, media or anyone in a position of authority. For example, we go to the Zoo and read the sign “Don’t feed the animals” and instantly accept that feeding Zoo animals is not an accepted practice (i.e. not common sense). Of course, in such cases we all understand why it is common sense to do as we are told. In fact, we might even see an explanation that accompanies the caution which tells us why it is wrong to feed the animals or smoke or even commit murder (e.g. the animals will get fat; smoking damages the lungs; murder may result in retribution). Fortunately, most people grow out of false instances of “common sense”, or else, I would still be under the impression that if you swallow an apple seed a tree will grow in your stomach (yet, when I was a child many of us were of the opinion that this was true). The most interesting thing about common beliefs (or sense if you want to stretch the meaning as I have) is how elastic it becomes when dealing with language (expressions and words). So, fifty years ago the use of the word “bloody” in polite company was considered to be a vulgar and rude swear word. This was common knowledge, and sense. However, today, nobody would bat an eyelid should you bloody choose to bloody assault our ears and eyes with your bloody use of the word bloody. What happened? Well, the word seems to have evolved and its use became more acceptable. So what of Somali “common sense”? Is there such a thing or do we make it up as we go along? It is clear that most of what we, as a people, regard as common sense is mostly derived from religion (not that most of it is followed of course). In addition, there are many peculiar cultural practices which we all (or rather our ancestors) believed to be total common sense. An old (and for me, much lamented) Somali tradition about women eating the food leftovers of men has now (mostly) been consigned to history. Yet, it was considered the height of common sense at the time and mothers would advice their newlywed daughters to adhere to it (for god knows what sensible – at the time- reasons). Another (much alive one) is concerned with what parts of a sheep a person can eat. Again, here too, there is a universal agreement on the issue and therefore it is considered common sense. Far be it for me to claim to be an authority on the Somali language but here too the idea of common understanding, usage and application is unclear. Words that were considered beyond the pale in the past are now thriving and used by most people in carefree and nonchalant ways. Expressions that used to be offensive are now acceptable and those that were acceptable are offensive. Like the chaotic nature of Somalia itself, the language too is flailing in an uncontrollable way. The accepted norms and traditions keep giving way to the convenient, expedient and modern demands of our unique circumstances. The lines are blurred, the customs are discarded and goal posts keep on moving. There used to be a time when a Somali man uttering words or expressions that are (traditionally) the property of women would be ostracised or ridiculed, but not today! It seems that we are all looking for some sort of guidance and direction. What is acceptable and what is not? What is common sense and what isn’t? We are so lost that even the great bastion of the faith that we used to rely on for the vast majority of our conduct and opinion-making has given way to arbitrary ideas and concepts. We are now left to make up our own uninformed opinions, untested practices and borrow our customs (and new traditions) from others. Our intellectual class, our comedians, authors, singers and all those that would pour their wisdom into that great well that stores what should be our common sense are not there to do their jobs (or maybe lack the sense themselves). So who should we look to for help here? The silent Sharif? The crazy Imam? I think I’ll stop waffling now and get straight down to the reason for this thread. It is about a word. A very short word that consists of two letters. A word that I always associated with young girls and children. One that I never dreamt a grown man would ever utter (in public at least). However, not all men are equal and, sometimes, when leaders utter unattractive words they legitimise them and make them trendy and acceptable. So when president Siilaanyo said “Taariikhda Faysaloow waxaad ka heshay ummadda taageerooyinkii aad ka heshay ee aad codka kaga heshay ee aad ku wada dhacday ee ummaddu ku diiday ee sanka kaa qabsatay ee aad qabyaalad ku hadashay ee Hargeysa anigaa leh aad tidhi oo ummaddu kugu diiday oo uf ku tidhi... .” I knew that Alpha’s favourite word has finally arrived. What next? Hoognay? Ba’nay?

^^ Take the blinkers off warya.

What a joke of a government.

^^70%? That's an exedus, saaxib. How come nobody noticed 70,000 people leaving the country in four short weeks?

Juxa must have taken the day off.

sharma-arke451;749635 wrote: can a threat cost blood? which law says, a threat is punishable by death, ? Have you met our A&T? He tells a great story about a short man marrying a tall woman, ask him about it saaxib. As for your question, just go back and slowly read what I wrote in my previous reply.

sharma-arke451;749627 wrote: OK. definitely, you won't tell me, killing a u.s. soldier in afghanistan and killing a somali man/women in front of a tfg office is the same. the former receives my applaud, while the latter i denounce with the strongest words possible. having said that, ngonge, you don't seem to grasp the principle of justice. for example if a boy always says ''i will kill my math teacher'' and urges his friends to kill him,is it in order for the teacher to kill the boy, and end up justifying his killing?? ngonge, you said; sheikh anwar was calling for the death of the innocent kufar, and by them killing him, you say '' good riddance'''' dee what is the logic in that? The logic in that is that your sheikh Anwar was a threat to me (and probably you) and I'm relieved that such a threat has been eliminated. Now don't mix your battles, saaxib. If it's "due process" that you're arguing for then I'm more than happy to concede the argument in here and say that you are right. But if it's about a gaal killing a muslim, my reply above should suffice. p.s. A kid threatening to kill a teacher? I mean really!

Nomad Khayr is the one to speak to about doubt. He's an expert in that field.

^^ Can't keep replying to you in two threads adeer. Choose which one you want me to stick with.

sharma-arke451;749601 wrote: hahaha. walee what a rebuttal. sheikh anwar al-awlaki (a.h.r.) maxaa kudawa dhigay? the bottom line is, killing an aggressor and killing a muslim are never the same. you decide That was the argument when the Ethiopians came to Somalia in 2006. It was a foolish argument then and shall remain a foolish argument whenever some confused Muslim, nationalist or sensationalist uses it. You may choose to muddy the water but the aggressor in my eyes is clear. It is all those that seek to murder innocents to forward their own interests. I make no distinction nor any allowances when it comes to their faith (Muslim or otherwise). You on the other hand, and in your underdeveloped sense of clanisim, would still shout "tolaaye" even when he that got killed poses a greater danger to you than to those who killed him (gaalo or no gaalo). Wax fahan.

^^ Waxba ii maad sheegin, adeer. You gave me the usual argument of "if", "what" and "but". WAX SHEEG!