I mean why the blind support? He could well be guilty, as I suspect. As Muslims we are required to speak the turth, even if it is against ourselves. Allah knows best. WaTerLily, I wholeheartedly agree one cannot help but wonder what there is to gain from defending the dishonourable. It seems some of the men here are more than willing to remind us that verdict is yet to be reached. I find this odd, a person is guilty from the moment they commit a crime and not when a group of strangers weigh up the evidence to decide whether or not an individual has committed a crime . The fact of the matter is he did admit to indecently touching her , I am sure even the blindest of the blind can accept this and thus must also accept he is GUILTY. Not necessarily in the eyes of a kufar but to Allah who sees all. If you disagree I strongly recommend you question your agenda, is it possible that you base this man’s actions on your own sins and wish to downplay the seriousness of the crime or even the desire to preserve what little dignity the accused has intact subsequent to the humiliation experienced by “the familyâ€. I completely support the accuser and pray she retains her strength, and not be intimated by the ignorant who uphold the views of the Arabs before the advent of Islam that one should defend his brother whether he is the oppressed or the oppressor. Salam

It took me the better part of three and a half weeks to establish my bank account Wow, that really is primitive. How can opening an account take weeks?, seriously that is absurd. Well, I am just glad things are not like that here in Australia. I mean I opened account yesterday, I don’t even understand how it can take 2 hours. They certainly may not be the biggest but they are efficient and that suits me just fine. As for the service I was chatting happily to the teller who happened to have a niece and a nephew studying Law in the university I am going to commence studying in a about a weeks time. Don’t envy me just move to Australia there is plenty of room

I recall a Sheikh say at a lecture I once attended that the problem with the Muslim Ummah today is their tendency to magnify trivial inconsistencies between one another and yet downplay the other BIGGER issues :eek: . Sadly the postings of the nomads here have proved this is such a case. I do not have time to do a reread to make specifications. I think this is a good thing considering when I read the verbal exchanges between parties I get the impression defending their “honour†becomes a priority over conceding defeat, or more accurately accepting the facts. Some speak of long term actions but I can’t help think this is a yearning by some to be accepted or shall I say to make integration a real possibility when it comes to the west. If this is the case than I must disabuse you of the notion- because it really is a lost cause. I refer specifically to those who compare us to other societies such as the Jews and Christians and how they would deal with such an ordeal. Integration means compromising your values or more precisely your Islamic morals. I have no doubt many would deny this sentiment and the thought really saddens me. That is not to say we cannot be respectful guests in the non-Muslim countries we live in but must remind ourselves a the end of the day we are nothing more. Now, in regards to the cartoons itself like Rahima said I’m sure all who attest to the oneness of Allah are angered by it How we project are anger is significant but not to the extent we should account all the blame to fellow Muslims. The protest in which the original poster Mr Labo refers to I believe was motivated by an emotive response to a deeply offensive slander against the holy Prophet and not the intention to propagate violence (this is despite what is indicated in the titles of the posters). Some question the point to such a protest, and I question the purpose of continuing a debate the only fuels the disunity plaguing Muslims. :confused:

Does SENTIMENTALITY hamper or aid in your view of: PEOPLE i.e. what you think of a person I believe it has the ability to do both. In the case of Marianne Dashwood her sentimentalism often propelled her to consider people (men in particular) from a glorifying perspective. This consequently clouded her judgment making her form inaccurate assessments and thus hampered her capacity to view a person realistically. However, this example is open to debate. If you are a believer that ignorance is bliss and you prefer to overlook one’s shortcomings than sentimentalism would aid your view of an individual’s character. Does SENTIMENTALITY hamper or aid in your view of:What is Right or Wrong? No such ambiguity exists in this question, because I believe sentimentality hampers your judgment of what you believe is right or wrong. If all of mankind allowed his feelings to govern his actions I think we would be living in a catastrophic world. After all, one must always combat against the lust of their hearts. Do you think SOL nomads can be SENTIMENTALISTS? In regards to the final question posed I believe the answer is all about moderation. And somehow I believe the contrasts evident between the Dashwood sisters in Jane Austen’s Sense and Sensibility is trying to convey this message. One doesn’t always want to be sensible lest they be given the title king or queen ice (as my peers often refer to me as such) and on the contrary too much sentimentalism can mean naivety.

Poetically_Malevolent, thanks for that sister. By the way nice name .

I am actually surprised no one mentioned how unislamic the practice is. :eek: Horoscopes are a form of Shirk which is a perilous sin. The term Shirk means associating partners with Allah. Which is what you are indirectly doing my reading such material. I don't really believe in horoscopes (or anything else) that claims to "predict" the future. Rockstar Xu, It's a good thing you don't believe in it but I strongly recommend you go one stop further and stop reading them. Personally, I don't think it can be qualified as anything near a science.

Khayrqabe, thanks brother for the letter which is a reminder to us all of the enemy we face. May Allah bless you.

STOIC, you have sucessfully pacified me with your admission and cheesy smile.

^^ You will one-day experience the dating scene whether you like it or not. The marriage courtship thing will be marveled on your face by your family members (if they haven’t yet). One minute you seem so empathetic and able understand the whole scenario well and then you say something really stup!d like I enjoyed reading all the lonely hearts stories I hope you are not putting me in the lonely hearts category P.S Thanks for the input all

Thanks all, it's good to see my words hit a nerve and it is something you can all relate to.

WOW! thanks for the advice Jimca Lee that really helped puts things in perspective Fourthly, when you find a person that meets some parts of your vital criteria, observe how they act by themselves, among friends, strangers, and old people. The point of such an exercise is to informally know the nature of this being: their habits (desirable or despicable) personality (dominant or dormant tolerable or intolerable) Iimaan (Weak or strong) Voice (Present or absent, decisive or indecisive) manner (courteous or crass) Word (reliable or irresponsible) Level of dependency (excessive or moderate). Doubly impressive....I'm a forward this to my friends Tell your friends who associate with multiple partners that an STD is but a "fluid" away EWWWWWW... they don't associate with them in that way because they wouldn't be in my circle if they did

I think the poor guy has been scared off by your "enthusiastic" responses. Sorry, this isn't a matrimonial website. It's a discussion board. You can google for Somali Match-Making sites, if that's all you're looking for. Your jesting right? Such sites exist? LOOOOOOL Of course this isn't a matrimonial site, but word on the grapevine has it that numerous marriages have blossomed from this here website And the surprises keep on coming

I am utterly ignorant when it comes to the whole dating process and I must admit I am not comforted by what I have witnessed. I remain somewhat confused. My friends reassure me you have to date Mr. Wrong before “the oneâ€. They assert you have to know what you don’t want before you know what you want. I don’t know what I make of this philosophy; all I know is that it doesn’t sound right or remotely Islamic. Not to mention a complete waste of time. When I articulate my concerns they dismiss my opinion accounting for my misguidance as a result of my inexperience. This makes me wonder what governs the rules in this dating game. Is it simply my circle of friends who I must admit can be plain weird or this is the way things work? Another thing that bothers me is the poly-relationship thing. I understand in Islam the Muslim man is allowed up to four wives upon the condition he can financially support them equally (I don’t know how many men can fulfill this criteria). The thing is I know guys and girls who “associate†with multiple partners. Although speaking to a person on the phone does in no way bind you to them, I think it is a matter of courtesy not to seek other conversations in the mean time (another crime my friends are guilty of). If I continue now I don’t when I’ll stop, so I will leave it at this, for those who are currently in a relationship is there a systematic procedure you abide by or a things just as incoherent as is the case with my mates?

Every night before I go to sleep I say a little prayer; I appeal to Allah the Almighty to make me successful both in this world and the hereafter. I beseech him to reward my mother with eternal bliss, my mother whom I deeply love, fervently admire and immensely respect. I wish the same for my father, siblings and grandparents. Then I think of all the Muslims around the word who are experiencing calamity, so I pray for them. I pray that the people of Palestine, Iraq, Chechnya, Bosnia and so forth are victorious in the trials they are facing (especially considering they are expected to fast amidst such hardship). And we complain during exams. Then I think of all the sins committed by mankind….and that of fellow Muslims. With much difficulty I make myself say “Allah please forgive their sinsâ€, I pause and just cannot bring myself to say Amen. Just thinking of the atrocities committed by other Muslims makes me nauseous. Then I question my inability to say Amen, is it a flaw in my character? Why is it so hard for me to forgive and yet I expect others and Allah to forgive me? These questions make me further beg Allah that I triumph in the Jihad I am waging against myself-my inner struggle. So Nomads, I know I prayed for a lot but if you were to pray for one thing what would it be?

Subxanallah, when is this sick women going to stop?

ATLAS, I completely disagree with the statement and my reasons have been articulated impeccably by Castro and strengthened by the statement posted by Jarafel, which incorporates Islamic principles. However, in regards to your assertions that If a man or a woman cannot support a child to the minimum of financial security, what right have they to bring an individual into this world? you must consider that a clarification is required. After all where do you draw the line? Inevitably, depending on an individual’s financial position definition of security will vary. Does this mean if a couple depending on where they fit in the socioeconomic spectrum must either conform to the given monetary limit or terminate a pregnancy? Let’s exaggerate and say they are off by a dollar. I deliberately use hyperbole in the scenario to accentuate the illogicality of your argument. Due to the fact your case is devoid of Islamic principles you can conveniently overlook one of the pillars of Iman; BELIEF IN DIVINE WILL. With the will of Allah this so called “security†can perish within a day. Just remember Allah is the only one who has the right to give or take lives. As Muslims only Islamic morals should govern our lives and guide our actions not finances or politics.

Thanks everyone, it's good to know I am not the only one who is or did go through this stage. It's comforting to know that both xamar87weyne and Tukaale lived to tell their tale. Thanks Castro for your advice I have applied to university for a science degree I did at one point considered engineering then quickly came back to my senses. I think I should be more like sheherazade and learn to embrace change and for once consider things from a more postive perspective. That's kind of hard to do considering Danyeer's insistence things will only get worse once I start working within a particular field. Haniif, freedom indeed. Salaam

Change is something that I always approach with conflicting emotions. It has the lure of the unknown and is somehow able to evoke the most inner deep fears lurking within one’s heart. WOW, didn’t mean to sound so philosophical nothing specifically dramatic has occurred in my life but finishing high school feels like I am embarking on a journey which is like no other. It’s as if a chapter of life has finished and another is commencing. Yes, I know this sounds too sentimental, but can you blame me? I have had the same routine of schooling since the tender age of five abruptly terminated. My sense of direction has suddenly been clouded and I found myself engulfed by a smothering mist. I guess now my mini goals have to expand into life long ambitions. And it is this thought above all that frightens me considering it often propels me into contemplating my looming demise. My only source of comfort admist all this confusion is knowing that (or hoping that) there will be great times as a result of such changes.

Wows wrong topic

Brother, do you think that alienating yourself from your community would be a solution? Obviously from the observations you have made you have come across misguided people yet you did not bother to express your concerns. Surely you believe an individual through their actions and words can make a difference as evident with your decision to join the Red Cross. At the end of the day the only person you are disappointing is yourself, what are trying to prove by neglecting your Islamic duties and abstaining from entering a mosque for such a period? It is essential as a Muslim brother you attend Friday prayers. Peace

It seems there is a possibility that this man will be identified soon enough. Mystery Piano Man 'named' May 18, 2005 - 11:01AM A Polish man living in Italy claims the so-called Piano Man is a French street musician he once worked with in Nice. Italian police said the 33-year-old illegal immigrant had approached officers at the Trevi Fountain in Rome after seeing the pianist's photograph in a newspaper. He said the man, who has not spoken since he was found wandering aimlessly near a beach in Minster on the Isle of Sheppey, Kent, was a French street musician named Steven Villa Masson. The Pole said he had worked with Mr Masson in the French Riviera resort of Nice. Social worker Michael Camp, who has been looking after the man since he was found on April 7 wearing a dripping wet suit and tie, said last night: "It is a possibility and we will follow it up tomorrow. "Until we get some really firm evidence where somebody can show us a picture of him or anything concrete, then it is a possibility and nothing more." A police spokeswoman in Rome said: "We have been contacted by a Polish national who is a street mimer after he read the story of the mystery piano player in England. He has told us that he is sure it is a French street musician who he worked with in Nice and has given us the name Steven Villa Masson. "We have taken a full statement from him and have passed it to police in Britain through Interpol, and the information has also been passed to France. "At this stage we have no idea if the information that has been provided to us is correct, but it is being checked out." The name and background of the man, who does not speak but who stunned carers by giving a four-hour virtuoso piano performance, remain a mystery after one possible link to Sussex was ruled out. All efforts to communicate with the shy and agitated man, who is in his 20s or early 30s, have failed, leaving experts baffled over his identity. Bizarrely, all the labels from his clothes had been removed, making it even harder to find out who he is. Staff at Medway Maritime Hospital in Gillingham gave the mystery man a pen and paper in the hope he would write his name or draw his country's flag. Instead, he drew highly detailed pictures of a grand piano, showing not only the keys, but also the intricate inner workings of the instrument. When Mr Camp took him to a piano in the hospital chapel, he played classical music "beautifully". Since then he has written music, but remains mute.

Excuse me for my naivety but until I read this topic I thought you guys may have been celebrating my fathers's birthday (he was born on May the 18th). But instead all I see is the traditional Somali flag divided into the most unfashionable colors (orange and green?) and writtng which was obviously "borrowed" from the Saudia Arabian flag. Talk about lack of orginality... :confused: (quite puzzled)

11:00pm ........and getting more desperate

The very fact that I am posting this shows how really desperate I am ...... any mathematicans in the house that can help me ? Question The graph of cubic function with rule f(x) = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d which passes through the points (1,2) and (2,4) and has a stationary point at (1,2). Find b,c,d in terms of a . right now it's 6:40 pm exactly I need an answer before 9:oo am tomorrow Does anybody have the contact details of that kid who got into Eton....LOL (I ain't kidding)

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