STOIC;913253 wrote: Somalia, did you had to go through all that trouble to "proof" that there is oil in Puntland? Warya you got the wrong guy to have a competition with about some garrison cities...Wonder how you guys will react if God-blesses you guys with wealth beyond avarice instead of water? I went through that trouble to post the consistent inane attempt to put your non existent exploratory dreams alongside that of Puntland ama the rest of Somalia. Do not try and spin this, read what I posted which was posted recently by your top website and compare the two articles. Personally I think the water should be sent to Hargeisa, where electricity and water can run out at any given hour. :eek:

I'm very concerned for the welfare of Somaliland at this current moment. Habar on habar violence with Jesus side play is not great for the reputation of Somaliland and this is just another catastrophe in the public relations of the independent state. I think this is part of a Mogadishu conspiracy with foreign powers to make Somaliland seem unstable. A deal must have been made with the British, probably by the secessionist foreign minister to make this announcement. What is her motive? Is she hurt over how she was treated due to having neo-HAG children? Is it personal? Only time will tell.

Are you joking, it's not enough water to be utilized. The first well showed oil sands in the first strike. #KeepingHopeAlive2013 :cool:

As always, Somaliland trying to get into the limelight by creating fiction, I am afraid this is Somalia's time, you are either on board or not.

Vs Hadhwanaag version http://www.hadhwanaag.com/detail.aspx?id=88644

STOIC;913096 wrote: ^Calm down little kid...You don't need to hyperventilate on the fact..Unless you want to tell me water wasn't what gushed out.... Hyperventilating? It was gushed out, in one well not both. Compare these two articles and come back to me. Al Arabiya - 20th January Next to us, we Saudis, and within our strategic security sphere, lies a country biting the dust for more than two decades. Its collapse began when its last “effective” government, which was neither successful nor popularly elected, fell. Even if that government had survived to this day, it surely would have been swept away by the Arab Spring. Together with our neighbors in the region, we looked after it on one or two occasions, and then moved away. Even the Americans ran out on it after a solitary attempt to save it in the wake of the war to liberate Kuwait. At the time, George Bush Sr. may have wanted to show his country was also ready to intervene and help a poverty-stricken Muslim country, unlike oil-rich Kuwait. It turned out to be a bitter American experience. I am referring to Somalia. Country in need Who wants to help Somalia? Its people are unruly, plagued by differences and internecine strife, and ruled by warlords. Al-Qaeda infested many of its citizens’ minds, adding to miseries and divisions even in single households. In the end, Somalia became the hotbed of high sea piracy. The world came to shun both the state and its people. Somalis got to be a source of concern for Saudi Arabia and its Gulf partners after a rise in their illegal immigration across Yemen through a transnational network of organized crime in the smuggling of migrants. Everyone lost hope in Somalia and no one believed the failed state would recover anytime soon. Or so it seemed. There is now a glimmer of hope looming on the horizon. International organizations now say Somalia is on the mend. Its markets are beginning to recover, together with trade and construction activities. People who visited Somalia of late say there is money moving around in the impoverished country. So, what happened? The answer is Turkey and its Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who is now the most popular leader there, with Somali mothers and fathers eager to name their newborns “Recep,” “Tayyip” and “Erdogan.” So what is Turkey doing in Somalia and why? Is it on “a pilgrimage or selling beads” there -- which is a common expression used by Mecca residents well-grounded in combining godliness and moneymaking? One school of thought worth monitoring is known as “Turkey’s moderate Islam,” which combines advocacy with spreading the teachings of religion, economic development and trade. It is capitalized on by dynamic Turkish businesses in carving out new markets. There is a Turkish scholar, author and educator named Fethullah Gülen, who founded the Gülen movement that is believed to have 1,000 schools around the world and more than 10 million followers in Turkey alone. He currently lives in self-exile in Pennsylvania. I was in Turkey some 25 years ago, trying to cover the rise of political Islam, when I first heard his name. But I didn’t get to meet him as he always shunned publicity and the media. He had left Turkey for the United States when he was committed for trial in 2000 after the leaking of a video urging his followers to “move within the arteries of the system, without anyone noticing your existence, until you reach all the power centers. You must wait until such time as you have got all the state power.” Originally charged with trying to undermine the secularity of the Turkish state, Gülen was acquitted in 2008 but continues to live in seclusion in Pennsylvania. The Gülen movement is operating in Somalia through aid relief and development agencies, offering young Somali men and women scholarships for religious studies in Turkey. They would eventually replace Somali graduates of hard-line religious schools funded by Gulf charities. By the time he flew to Somalia in August 2011, Erdogan had arranged for more than 1,200 Somali students to arrive in Turkey on full scholarships to study sciences, engineering, medicine and law at a cost of $70 million. He then raised from Turkey’s private sector more than $365 in donations to Somalia, over and above his government’s $49 million contribution. Today, Turkish traders and aid workers move freely across Somalia without needing to worry about being killed or kidnapped. In contrast, U.N. and international aid workers remain holed up in their Somali offices or hotel rooms. Is this happening because Turks, being Muslims, are familiar with the Somali people’s character and norms? ‘Turkey Shocks Africa’ Julia Harte raises the question in her recent article, “Turkey Shocks Africa,” on which I relied to pen this think piece and which I strongly urge you to read. Or does Turkey have a comprehensive plan – denied by the government – to marry advocacy and trade, thus help Turkish entrepreneurs and businesses gain favor among Somalis? Or is energy-starved Turkey eyeing opportunities offered by the prospective find of 10 billion barrels of crude oil in Somalia’s northeastern Puntland province? Alternatively, is Turkey mounting a smart charm offensive to increase its overall exports to Africa, which rose to $10.3 billion last year from $2.1 billion in 2003? Turkey is now challenging China on African markets, but with a more humane face than the alienating method favored by the Chinese. Regardless of Turkey’s motives, what happened benefited both the Turks and the Somalis. And what about us? It’s wrong to portray the Turks as competitors. They are friends who did what we should have done. It’s therefore good to catch up with them and participate in this benefaction. After all, we spearheaded the concept, “The Hajj…and the sale of beads.” Jamal Khashoggi is a Saudi journalist, columnist, author, and general manager of the upcoming Al Arab News Channel. He previously served as a media aide to Prince Turki al Faisal while he was Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States. Khashoggi has written for various daily and weekly Arab newspapers, including Asharq al-Awsat, al-Majalla and al-Hayat, and was editor-in-chief of the Saudi-based al-Watan. He was a foreign correspondent in Afghanistan, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan, and other Middle Eastern countries. He is also a political commentator for Saudi-based and international news channels.

Garowe is almost a decade ahead of you in this area and it has proven petroleum presence, so the comparison must not be made here, ladies and gentlemen, you must compare yourself to a non-exploratory region like maybe Antarctic ama maybe Djibouti you know whatever..

Coofle;912999 wrote: waa baryihii aanu koonfurta ka soo qaxnay...kkkkk.... The sad thing is that there is no enough well written and documented literature about the events that happened at that vital but bloody part of somali history.....Ku tiri ku teen ayuun baa meel kasta taal... http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/69577-New-Book-Xusuus-qor-by-Siciid-Cismaan-Keenadiid

Wiil Cusub;912944 wrote: Mohamed Aden Sheikh Children's Hospitals is unique project in two ways. Hospital is named by Dr Mohamed Aden sheikh who is from Gedo region and same tribe is as dictator Bare who destroyed this city, secondly it is first Children's Hospitals in hole Somali area while 2/3 of our population are children. read some more information about project http://www.mascthonlus.org/wp-content/uploads/docs/presentazione.pdf Dr Mohamed Aden sheikh ALLE ha u naxariisto hana ka ajar siiyo

A new book which is centered around the birth of HAG idealogy, the start of a new civilization. From 1991-1994 the author had a glimpse into the atrocities committed by HAG movement. No other book of its kind exists other than Clan Cleansing in Somalia: The ruinous legacy of 1991 | 336 pages | ISBN 978-0-8122-4467-0 | Lidwien Kapteins, a book which is highly recommended due to its numerous sources and scholarly citations. I am glad that we are now able to document the horrendous history which led to the downward spiral of a great nation so the future generations can learn from it. I shall buy this book, I shall buy it in the name of peace. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

Alpha Blondy;912019 wrote: yes! this is the story i was recently told by the tolk's committee for propagation and indoctrination. XX, you are a somali cultural hero. you could so easily appear on tixmaal. your knowledge of all things somali is excellent. hambalyo! haaaaah , this guy kills me every time .

USC mentality indeed, what business is it of theirs, what stake, what stake are we talking about here, war ilaahi yaa yaqaan.. HAG and their neo-HAG servants like Oba need to keep their noses out of other people's affairs, that is just the truth. I see no one from Garowe trying to hinder anything in Jubba.

Our thoughts are with the people of Somaliland, who are going through a difficult time in their brief history.

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He's a very busy minister. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/65107-Puntland-Health-Minister-Attends-WHO-Conference-In-Geneva-(Pictures)

metta;911437 wrote: Ethnically cleansed? Which ethnic group was this? The Oromos? The Kikuyu? The Japanese? What ethnic group? I've never heard of ethnic cleansing in Mogadishu. There certainly isn't ethnic cleansing documented in the archives or the records or even on YouTube that occurred in Xamar. The Tutsi and Hutus of Rwanda have seen ethnic cleansing. I know a million Tutsi and moderate Hutus were massacred but I am not aware of Somalis being part of ethnic cleansing, especially anything recent in Somalia. Read this new book. Clan Cleansing in Somalia: The Ruinous Legacy of 1991. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PBvfTmzsZ-0C&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=ethnic+clan+cleansing&source=bl&ots=gmWlAxI5V0&sig=lW6KUyNoqIGSLVyp8OJMjFgCWlY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dKb_UKiYF4TI0QXw_IHYDA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=ethnic%20clan%20cleansing&f=false

Che -Guevara;911410 wrote: ^No one abandoned their houses, the city was ethnically cleansed and house owners forced out. This nigga surprises me everyday.

This thread has taken a turn for the worse. Let me start over. Somalilanders look like Oromo in my opinion, they have the Oromo look which is a plain cushitic rough looking in urban life - kinda look.

Funny thread LOOOOOOOOO@metta, you can live there but in your heart LMFAO Oba, you better recover man

Ilaahi ha uu naxariisto

Waxaan la yaabey this Sijui ku sheeg who is in actuality from Somali Galbeed wanting a weaker administration in Jubbaland than in Puntland, sometimes I just realize why it was never feasible in the first place to create an administration in the region.. wtf :eek:

All I know is that Abdiqassim Salad is an anomaly. :eek:

Wait, so you are reminding people that they sacrificed for a 4 story building and some tents? These jokers.

We are not freaking blessed, omg.

Tillamook;910256 wrote: ^ Oodweyne, what do you gain from such petty divisive talk? Their is nothing wrong with Puntland going to Mogadishu as a "supplicant". Puntland is a state within the Federal Republic of Somalia, and Mogadishu is the seat of that Federal government. It never too late to end this them-against-us mentality of yours. Time to move forward my brother. No point in exaggerating talk of who got power and who doesn't. The federal systems is meant to ensure equity among the respective polities of Somalia including yours. Am not saying its perfect but it will get there. We gonna first have to neuter and spay divisive old men like you throughout Somalia. Old men who refuse to abandon backward and primitive ways of interacting with their fellow countrymen. Both Che, a known terrorist sympathizer and the queen's grandchild have something in common today aside from their obvious contempt for Puntland's support for the federal government, they both represent the remnants of a weakened ideology. One's secession dream has collapsed beyond recognition, a supposed president who is undermined by his own cabinet, an opposition leader which openly wants to defy the constitution of the region, while the other is running from bush to bush and ironically the youth abandoning the ever so ungodly movement. So you should give them a hand, rub their shoulder during this troubled time, and try and understand why they want to move focus.