^^Is Somalia going to be a 'soveriegn' state? Wake up and smell the coffee or is the sugar two sweet? TP, point taken laakin i will continue to ridicule these boys and their obvious leanings.

I want to hear what awoow Baashi has to say about this weeks events. Sophist has been a little quiet aswell. There is usually some substance and rationale in their writing hence why i want to hear their views.

Actions of Ethiopia and the TFG warrant war crimes and crimes against humanity Abdirizak Omar Mohamed Monday, April 02, 2007 In late March we have witnessed an unprecedented loss of lives, destruction of properties and hundred of thousands of displaced people, the Mogadishu hospitals are full to their capacity and are not equipped to treat with some of the most critical injuries due to lack of medication. It is unfortunate that the international community has failed to react to this genocide in Mogadishu. This could not have happened without the blind support the Ethiopians got from the USA and the TFG. Let us now analyze whether the actions of Ethiopia and the TFG leadership constitute war crimes and whether their actions justify processing war crimes in the international court of law in Hague against members of the TFG. Moreover, within this context there are also individual countries that allow citizen to file war crimes against individuals who were members of a government or institutions that committed atrocities against ethnic groups, and Canada has the War crimes act in 2000. For example the Canadian war crimes Act is intended to deal with the three crimes of Genocide, Crimes against Humanity and War crimes with an emphasis on the law which has developed around the concepts of crimes against humanity and complicity. In this context the Toronto Star’s Thomas Walkom wrote in a 2004 editorial that Canada should indict Bush for crimes against humanity because Canada's war crimes law specifically permits prosecution not only of those who carry out such crimes but of the military and political superiors who allow them to happen. This law clearly allows us to indict individual Somali Canadian MPs who have participated in the commission of these atrocities or were complicit about it. The rules of engagement clearly state that civilian lives be spared. The International law uses the Term “Wanton destruction” meaning an attacker must, under the laws of war, distinguish between military targets and civilians and their property. Should he not do so, he is guilty of the war crime of indiscriminate attack. If that attack results in "extensive, willful and unnecessary damage", he is then guilty of wanton destruction. This is consistent with both the actions and statements made by the president of the TFG Abdullahi Yusuf, the PM Mr. Gedi and Deputy of the Defense Mr.salad Jeele et al in the TFG. Here it should be noted that there was a “Willful” intent on the statements made by the president, prime Minister and the depute minister of defense to pillage the Mogadishu city. Even if one examines the 1907 and the 1949 Geneva conventions they both state that pillage of cities constitute war crimes, it explicitly states that “The pillage of a town or place, even when taken by assault is prohibited.". The fact that the Ethiopians and TFG have taken over and destroyed the Hayat hospital, the Bakarah market and many properties justify that pillaging has indeed taken place and it should be dealt accordingly and perpetrators indicted for war crimes. What about if these individuals were to argue in their defense that the conflict in Somalia was a civil war and they should not be held accountable, well, the International Court of Justice holds that a foreign state is responsible for the conduct of a faction in a civil war if that faction is a de facto agent of the said state and this should implicate Ethiopia and the TFG. Similarly, there are other surprising precedents such as the case in Rwanda civil war, where the civil war argument was thrown out in sentencing those who participated in the Rwanda genocide. All in all, it is important that all evidences are archived; these include statements, documents and circumstantial evidence for processing the indictments and filing them in the international war crimes tribunal in Hague as well as in the courts in individual countries for potential prosecution of individuals who participated in the genocide in Mogadishu, Somalia. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abdirizak Omar Mohamed Toronto, Canada Email abdi1260@yahoo.com For Hiiraanonline

CIIDAMO ITOOBIYAAN AH OO FARIISIN KA SAMEYSANAYO DULEEDKA MAGAALADA B/WEYN Isniin, 2, Apri. 2007 (HOL) Waxaa Markii ugu horeysay tan Wixii ka Danbeeyay Markii ay Ciidamda Itoobiya iyo kuwa Dowlada Federaalka oo wada socda kala wareegeen Maamulka Gobalka Hiiraan Maxkamadii Islaamiga ayaa lagu arkay Duleedka Magaalada B/weyn Ciidamo Itoobiyaan ah oo aad u hubeysan kuwaasoo sida la sheegay Fariisin ka dhiganaya Deegaanka Jante-Kuweendisho. Qaar ka mid ah Mas'uuliyiinta Maamulka Gobalka oo wada hadal kula yeeshay Deegaanka Jante-guudisho, Saraakiisha Ciidamada Itoobiya ayaan la ogeyn dhab ahaan wax yaabaha ay ka wada hadleen maadaama aan Saxaafada loo ogoleyn in lagala hadlo warka ku saabsan soo dagi taanka Ciidamada Itoobiyaanka. lakiin warar hoose oo soo baxaya ayaa sheegaya in labada dhinaca ay ka wada hadleen arimo u badan qaabka iyo waliba sida ciidamdu dagayaan, iyo waliba Baraha ugu haboon ee Fariiisinka u Noqon karta marka laga soo tago halka uu kulanku ka dhacay oo ah Jante-guudisho, waxaana warku intaa ku darayaa in loo maleynayo in ciidamadaasi fariisin Rasimi ah ka dhigan doonaan Xarunta Dhaqan-calinta ee Iftiin oo horay u ahaan jirtay Xarun ay daganaayeen ciidamadii Maxkamadii Islaamiga, Gudoomiyaha degmada B/weyn iyo Ku-xigeenkiisa Axmed Gobey Cawaale iyo waliba C/raxmaan Buruko, oo ka mid ah Mas'uuliyiinta Kulanka la yeelatay Saraakiisha Itoobiya ayaan ilaa hada iyagu wax faah-faahin ah arintaa ka bixin, taasoo u muuqata in aan loo ogoleyn in saxaafadu ka hadasho wararka ku saabsan ciidamada Itoobiya. wararka Qaar ayaa Tilmamaya in arimaha ugu waa weyn ee Ciidamadan loo keenayo tahay sababo dhinaca Nabad-galyada ah, madaama Maalmihii aynu soo dhaafnay ay jireen Qaraxyo is xig xigay oo lagu qaaday Saldhiga Boolika iyo waliba Guriga uu degan yahay Ku-xigeenka Gudoomiyaha Maamulka Gobalka, halka wararka qaarna ay talmaamyaan in ciidamadu ay halkaa kala socon doonaan dhaq-dhaqaaq Hub sida la sheegay Magaalada Muqdisho ugu gudba Gobalada dhaxe. dadka ku dhaqan Magaalada B/weyn ayaa muujinaya walaac la xiriira Ciidamadan la sheegay in la soo dajinayo duleedka magaalada B/weyn, gaar ahaan waxaa ay dadku cabsi weyn ka muujinayaan weeraro ay ku qaadaan kooxo ka soo horjeeda, taasoo ay keenta iska hor imaad wax yeelo geysta. C/raxmaan Diini, Hiiraan Online E-mail: diini@hiiraan.com

Dhaawacii cuslaa ee ciidanka Ethiopia oo laga gaadhsiiyay Addis Ababa Addis Ababa (3 Apr 07), Wararka ka imaanaya Addis Ababa ayaa sheegaya in qaar ka mid ah askarta Ethiopia ee ku dhaawacantay dagaaladii Muqdisho ka socday 4ta maalmood la geeyay wixii dhaawacu daraa magaalada Addis Ababa. Ciidankan la gaadhsiiyay Addis Ababa ee dhaawacoodu uu daran yahay ayaa la sheegay inay gaadhayaan ilaa 75 askari. source

Its getting tiring sparring with featherweights. Where are the heavyweights of the SOL bolitikal section? Silence is not golden and an I’m busy excuse will not suffice. So come out and make some comments. You cannot simply stay quiet on this.

^^We have Somalis who are blind to all this saxib. Would you let someone destroy the contents of your home and urininate all over the place to only leave the shell standing under the excuse of 'we are protecting you'?

CT Waxaad tahey rageedi! Well done saxib and thanks for posting and letting all nomads see the fruits of your labour. A great job indeed! Keep it up saxib! i will watch with sound when i get home tonight IA. Great job!

The Point I would like to be excused from my usually easy going persona in the politics section. I will show no respect to those advocating for the bombardment of fellow Muslims/Somalis. Do not expect fluffy words from me in these parts.

Ahh the boys who got an a^s wooping this week when brother xabashi got dealt with! Forever be remembered as the xabashis little elfs ^^ Pi

Amiin indeed.

^^Way barooranayaan for the dead Xabashis. Hence why they are quiet. Not quite what you expected/hoped for was it lads?

Runtii maaha in madaxwaynaha sharafta lagaga ciyaaro Sharafte? :confused:

^^nin magaaladisa ka hurday aya hada kuleh waxbaan aqaana :rolleyes:

^^maybe so but this news is very surprising indeed. We shall see what comes out of it. JB would probably be cool with Ethios in H-town JB, Kaaley, do they still clean cars at Mandeeq? Tuug!

^^I see dirty hands at play. Time to put fear into the people? A fear of 'terrorista' in SL for a potential arrest of someone who is vocal against Ethios/Riyaalle?

Two explosions rock Somaliland capital - minister HARGEISA, April 2 (Reuters) - Two blasts rocked the capital of the breakaway state of Somaliland over the weekend, causing no damage or injuries but shattering the relative stability of the northern Somali enclave. "There were two explosions on two consecutive nights in Hargeisa. No one was harmed and there was no property damage at all," Somaliland Interior Minister Abdillahi Ismail Ali told reporters on Monday. Ali said the government had an idea who was behind the blasts, but said police had made no arrests and were still investigating. "I warn them that they will be arrested ... the people of Somaliland are vigilant and are safeguarding the peace, security and stability in this country," he said. Somaliland is a former British colony that broke away from the rest of Somalia. It has enjoyed relative peace and carried out democratic elections, but is not internationally recognised. reuters JB, any news?????????

Your duas for the people and the resistence will do!

^^who do you think we can pay to record a 'tolka' meeting? I think Xalane would be tempted with some crisp bank notes then again he would be at the back with the young ones

Mogadishu - The fragile Somali government backed by Ethiopian forces called on civilians in the capital on Monday to leave their homes in disputed areas before a new military offensive against an Islamic insurgency. Salad Ali Jelle, the deputy defence minister, said the government does not recognise a ceasefire negotiated between the Ethiopian military and clan elders. "We call on the civilians living in terrorist-held areas in Mogadishu to abandon their houses because it is possible that government troops may target these areas any time," Jelle said. "We have to clean al-Qaeda elements from Mogadishu." There was a glimmer of hope on Sunday when Mogadishu's highly influential and dominant clan said it had brokered a truce to stop the fighting. But mortars were raining down hours after ****** clan spokesperson Ahmed Diriye made the announcement, and military officials were not available for comment. The UN refugee agency says 47 000 people, who are mainly women and children, have fled violence in the Somali capital in the past 10 days. Nevertheless, there was calm in the capital early on Monday. Some businesses were reopened and the public transport system started to operate in the deserted streets of the capital. Jelle said his government had been fighting for the past four days with terrorists, not clan militias. "The ****** clan are not terrorists," Jelle said, adding that the government doesn't recognise "the so-called ceasefire." source

^^Its better he does it via the mic. At least we know what they say in the 'tolka' meetings now

^^We are merely seeing who the true terrorist is/are. The more he talks the foolish his position, the TFG and their supporters look. They should leave a mic on him at all times like on big brother. What i would do to be a fly on the wall in Yeey's meetings.

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: looooooooooooooool ............. the article was written by a journalists from Mogadishu recently visited Hargeisa. They talking about how Hargeisa ladies are beautiful and good plus their shyness and dignity. they then talk about how those gals are desperate from men living there ,,,, during afternoons you see a lot of those chicks driving cars and going around the city looking for the perfect mates. They say men in Hargeisa are either jobless, chewing Khat or busy on business. Almost all of those busy folks are married and they busy most of the time working and stuff like that. i anticipate an invation

^^Not sure what is going on right now. Conflicting reports but a time to collect and bury the dead would be a start.

waligey kumaan arkin