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Do you guys want to know what i know? aaah, i'll keep it to myself until the right time

^^LoL Kids needs a few years in the gym first. Reer scandanavia are tough customers though,,,

Good to see we are all behaving (just about)

Northener: busy with work yeah,,,,me too

JB A believer will usually say ‘it was the will of Allah’ and move on. He/she may get something better later on. The loser in the FA Cup final may win the Champions League the year after. The loser in a race to a ladies heart may find someone better later on etc. It’s a test of one’s belief (something you wouldn’t understand). It all goes back to believing and understanding what that belief entails (the fundamentals). The belief that Allah is all wise and just in all decisions. Now take a man who doesn’t pray (an atheist) who lost the football game or the ladies heart. What would he say or do? He doesn’t have the reassurance of a faith or any sort of guidance to fall back on. He is deprived of understanding Allah’s ways of giving and taking away (death). Is he in a better position? Or is he just a confused soul?

Some of you sound certain about this. Is this for real???

I'll sue her for defamation of character (the first such case on a forum )

otherwise alot of people will read the silence as an agreement LoL,,,,,and where have you been over the last 3 months?

So what is going on your mind when you're sitting there, presumeably in rapture praying for almighty intervention of the status quo? Could it be so, the act of prayer itself provides the comfort as Naden hinted? Praying for a happy/safe/prosperous/poverty free life is not asking for intervention as you don’t know what the future holds. You just want it to be what you ask in your prayers. This is done by observing a) the obligatory and b) the optional. Asking for intervention in say the life of a wayward youngster (a situation) who has gotten himself into trouble can be made in optional prayers. Now believing in Allah entails believing in his ability to answer those prayers, which in turn contributes to your comfort level. One is not comfortable when not practicing the obligatory and one should not be comfortable if he thinks his optional prayers will not be answered. So yes prayer (in both A and B) results in inner comfort. If some one is caught up in a falling lift (Naden’s falling lift example) then their prayers can be construed as a) calling for Allah’s help in a given situation b) making a perceived last prayer asking for forgiveness. Both can be classified in asking for intervention (in a situation). Therefore, praying for intervention (in a given situation) and the comfort levels of he/she who is doing the praying requires ‘belief’ as one who believes will obviously be more comfortable after prayer. Therefore, the act of prayer alone does not provide comfort ya JB. The act of prayer with the belief that your on the right track and will be looked after when on that track provides comfort for the believer. Nothing wrong with that, it’s the natural condition resulting from prayer. Ps please don’t twist my above words Pps Naden, God’s intervention in ‘changing’ a specific course of events is unknown to man but didn’t he already change the event? Ie causing the lift to fall rather than go to its next floor? and on that note i hear the athaan for Dhuhur

Magool, is there something your trying to tell us? ps to all: Taliban stated the obvious and shouldnt be hanged for doing so,,,,,,,

SOL threads tend to develop into 3 or 4 sub-threads. Why is that? Magool,Femme (insert any other name used) When your not away for a month or two you do start a topic or two i give you that.

Please keep me in the loop. Svedska is not Somali nor is it English. Now, what did you just write?

A very good read. Thanks for sharing Nurow

What abot scrappy doo?

Wa Alaykuma salaam Yaabka! Welcome to the forum.

North,you've missed the point by miles there Probably due to not fully recognising your Somali spelling. its just that anybody's prayers might not come true, somaha? Yes. But who decides whether it should come true or not? Whether he/she is deserving of? What are the pre-requisits for making prayer? Its not as simple as you presume. Originally posted by Northerner: But how would you know about God's intentions/plans/interventions? JB I woulden't, unless a theist like you voluntarily claims to know , hence, tells me about it. I would never do such a thing as its a major sin. But not knowing God's intentions is a good thing as one will pray for God's mercy in this life and the next.

^^Hearing the athaan for casar right now,,

lol Urban, Stay up for a whole night and then sleep in 6 hour lumps,,,,

Well, it will depend heavily on the lifestyle you wish to live. Income will obviously play a part,,,,, Personally i needed to leave UK to keep my sanity,,,

^^ma nin deen la, aya dad deenle oduceenkara? Would a God that doesen't intervene and shape the fate of his creation be qualified for our prayers i wonder? If people had a doubt in God's abilities they would'nt be praying to him in the first place ya JB But how would you know about God's intentions/plans/interventions? Is it a case of 'oh my prayer for loads of money didnt come true today so i shant believe'?

Originally posted by Legend of Zu: Economist by training, Expert in the following Strategic Marketing, Pricing, Business Intelligence and Product Management Are these skills in demand up there? Cheers Huge demand in many businesses. I got to say man, the place looks soulless and plastic Depends what your looking for. You also dont get alot of BS you see and hear in the west.

^^Whats your field saxib?

^Excuse me young lady but no old people here (well give or take ) i knew Northern sounded like Taliban :confused: We sit on the same side of the fence on current Somali political issues i guess Magool has something up her sleave which is making me paranoid

An impressive list but i think Magool has something more sinister in mind :confused: