Que Johnny Bravo any time!

Taliban Placing the blame squarely on the west simply means you are affraid to admit the truth. The truth that there are some misguided people, groups out there who are using the name of Islam the wrong way. For a discussion to take place on how we can best teach those who are misguided true Islam you must give up some ground on the 'blame it all on the west' excuse.

bada cass, my bad carry on,,,

Originally posted by wiil_duco: ^^^ Indeed Tensions High Between somalidiid iyo somalijaceel. will wait and see what happens next. the same somalijaceel u supported in xamar last week? :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gicTEKbczxw

^^kapow deh Originally posted by NGONGE: I had to take a break from my holiday to warn the xabash invaders that if they tried to invade my toolo our brave boys will send them back to where they come from. In fact, we warn all sides to watch out and never dare to say a bad word about our brave jilib. For we are strong and brave and we hate you all. ok. Back to lounge on the lap of my Syrian maid. Laterz. do they have broadband in Damash? :confused:

I'm not interested in conspiracy theories. Is there a problem with some misunderstanding Islam leading them to think its ok to kill innocents? Simple answer is YES. I like this approach make yourself a better muslim according to the Quran and Sunnah, Well put.

The thread has not gone the way the poster hoped

Extremism is what the Iraqi, Afghani or Somali freedom fighters (or insurgencies) are doing to liberate their countries from Western or Christian occupation and hegemony. Extremism is fighting secular Muslim leaders or their secular governments to establish an Islamic government or caliphate. Those secular Muslim leaders or their governments serve the interests of non-Muslims, squander the wealth of Muslims, torture and kill Muslims, engage in many actions that are against the teachings of Islam. Extremism is fighting to gain independence. Independence is in an Islamic government, but the West has banned it for Muslims. Even using Democratic means to establish an Islamic government (case example; Algeria) has been aborted by the West. The list is long, but you get the picture. Thats extremism in the west's views. I was talking about extremism in Islam. Like those who preach hatred and view killing innocents as ok. Dont you think we should curtail that? Bob I stand to be corrected but I honestly believe we (Muslims) have neither choice nor voice over what's currently going on in our own countries, be it social or economic all THANKS to our so-called leaders who keep on alienating us every time we raise an important issue that needs to be discussed thoroughly... Its a sad state of affairs i know

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^^those who cheer for death and destruction are sad we all know the truth but sadly some are blind Thousands dead Fleeing refugees killed Shortage of food and water No medical supplies Outbreaks of Cholera and TB Refugees turned away Uncertainty Hopelessness Dispair Hunger Strife Lost Unjust rulers Its Friday tomorrow, make the most of it!

Define it then tell me whats right with it.

W/s Cambarro I think the disunity among Muslims has played a part aswell. Instead of instigating a drive to teach the youths up and down the country the wrongs of extremism we have simply buried our heads in the sand hoping it would all go away. Yes foriegn policies do contribute to radicalisation but what have we done to educate the youth? I see it as a 50/50 split.

I'm merely reminding people of the situation. If you wish to call me a hypocrite thats your perogative for whatever its worth. ps lets not pretend the situation today is mirrored pre end of Dec 2006

Al Jazeera cover Somalia well and tend to air the truth. People are celebrating trips made by those responsible for the above. I'm just saying its our duty to keep in mind what is really happening.

Thousands dead Fleeing refugees killed Shortage of food and water No medical supplies Outbreaks of Cholera and TB Refugees turned away Uncertainty Hopelessness Dispair Hunger Strife Lost Unjust rulers Its Friday tomorrow, make the most of it!

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And yet it's instructive to consider that a woman's understanding of manliness tends to be very different from a man's. My wife and daughter are fixated by the American drama Lost, in which a group of people stranded on a remote island after a plane crash battle to stay alive against sinister forces. They frequently confer on which male characters are the sexiest, and in doing so make the perfect distinction between machismo and manliness. The men they say they would fall in love with are not the washboard-stomached firebrands, but rather the ones most able to protect them and provide for them in those inhospitable surroundings. These characters are possessed of a calm stoicism, and a desire to look after the weakest first. This judgment by my wife and daughter does not indicate fluffy submissiveness, but cool pragmatism. Their heroes are not to be found blubbing on a football pitch like half the England team, or taking part in the orchestrated grieving that has become an integral part of British national life. sorry i like this part. Know your role qolodina guur doonka'a

^^lool Years ago, I was on the family ranch in Argentina with my uncle, leaning on a fence, the other side of which stood a huge Brahman bull. The bull was in a tetchy mood because his testicles were dragging along the floor and had become infected. My uncle, with a twinkle in his eye, handed a spray can of disinfectant to his foreman, a strutting, mustachioed gaucho, and asked him to apply it to the infected area. A look of horror flitted across the foreman's eyes, but then he thrust out his chin, squared his shoulders and, before my uncle could stop him, jumped the fence and sprayed the bull before walking away nonchalantly. "Que macho (what a man)," I exclaimed. "That wasn't macho," said my uncle. "That was ******. A real man would have told me to f*** off." Machismo gets you stabbed in bars "for looking at my bird", or flattened by the 10: 15 to Euston during a drunken game of chicken with your mates. Interesting,,,,,

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Red sea is in love with a ISLAAN 60 ku dhow ???? ,,,,,,,,, i can't believe this Casaanyo, ma dab ba?

lool maxay na leeyihiin ninyo? ma ina daayan? libaaxyaan la so korne,,,,,

Cant remember the last time i was clean shaven but cant leave the house without some Johnsons baby cream on this face, what does that make me tolow?

A plan to radicalise Muslims This is what the government should be doing if it wants to promote extremism Communities minister Ruth Kelly has announced a six-point plan to deal with extremism and radicalisation among young Muslims. Here is my 12-point plan that is guaranteed to turn young Muslims into radicals. 1. Associate extremism with Islam and terrorism with Muslims. The best way to destroy people's confidence is to continuously connect them and their faith with violence and fanaticism. They will feel victimised and under attack. When they feel that there is a conspiracy against them they will become more extreme and some may resort to terrorism. 2. Interfere with the way mosques are run. Send consultants and civil servants to help draw up plans to ensure that the mosques are used for rituals and secular activities only. Train the management on how to ban debates and discussions and only allow such debates and discussions that support a particular agenda. Any dissent must be quelled and quickly labelled as extremist - especially those who criticise the government's foreign policies. Make sure all the mosques are run by government-friendly people. And just for good measure recruit members of the committee to be informers - the eyes and ears of the secret services. 3. Tell imams what to say. Invest in a new generation of imams who are not politicised and who focus on a secular notion of spirituality. Imams who speak good English to give standardised sermons and lessons from syllabuses and literature which has been vetted by the Whitehall experts. Promote scholars and academics who are not loyal to their faith and are willing to exchange their faith teachings for titles, fame and fortune. 4. Set up and fund rival Muslim groups. Let the Muslim community compete for attention. Let there be an internal fight for control and influence. Keep the Muslim community divided. Send threats to those groups who do not toe the line with disengagement and no funds. Pretend to be friends with one, while condemning the other and vice versa. Since young Muslims are normally not part of the hierarchy, do not bother talking to them. 5. Raid Muslim family houses. Use anti-terror laws to raid Muslim family houses in as many cities as possible. Make sure you carry out such raids openly and publicly with maximum number of police and marked vehicles. Discreetly alert the media just before the raid so that it can be headline news the next day. 6. Arrest and detain more young Muslims. Arrest and detain young Muslims who are Asian or Arab looking, who wear a beard and foreign clothes, hang around a mosque or have recently become more religious. They are the potential terrorists. Go through their mobile phones, computers, contact lists, text messages and emails. Copy all the information, call friends or family members of the detainee and threaten them with arrest unless they co-operate. There are 28 days to frame the detainee. If the detainee is intelligent and of good value, offer him positions or incentives to be an informer for the secret services. 7. Boast about the success in Iraq and send more troops to consolidate it. The invasion of Iraq was to give Iraqis the taste of freedom and democracy. It is not your fault that the Iraqis have chosen to kill themselves. They have given shelter to al-Qaida, become part of a terrorist network and now carry out suicide attacks against the troops from the coalition of the willing. The only way to deal with terrorists is to eliminate them. A few innocent lives may be lost in the process but it is a worthwhile price Iraqis have to pay for democracy. 8. Kill more Afghans and blame the Taliban for it. Afghans are producing drugs that are destroying young people in the western world. Even Islam does not sanction production of narcotics. They are responsible for Bin Laden and al-Qaida. They are responsible for 9/11 attacks in the USA and July 7 bombings in London. They are backward, ill-educated and most importantly they are not willing to modernise themselves. The Taliban are hiding in Afghanistan. They must be flushed out. There is no choice but to send more troops and destroy those people who wish to take the world back to the dark ages. The task is simple: kill them wherever you find them, and if the precise intelligence is lacking about their whereabouts destroy the whole village. What is loss of few Afghan lives compared to one eliminated Taliban? 9. Threaten Tehran with economic sanctions for its nuclear ambitions but supply Israel with the most sophisticated weapons of mass destruction. The western world needs a good nuclear deterrent against rogue states such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria. They pose a threat now and even though they do not have any nuclear weapons they have the intention of acquiring them and then using them on the western countries and Israel. The strategy must be to make sure that no Muslim country ever acquires nuclear weapons. If they even show that intention threaten them with bombs that would take their countries back to dark ages. 10. Ignore the plight of the Palestinians but condemn the Palestinian people even when Israel carries out aggression against the Palestinians. Our position is very clear: Israel can never do anything wrong. They are a democratic country and whatever they do we will support them. On the other hand, Palestinians do not even have a country or a leadership; we do not know who to talk to; they prefer violence and do not know the language of peace. How can we talk to a people who are so uncivilised that they carry out suicide bombing killing themselves and killing everyone around them? There could never be peace with people who do not recognise Israel's right to exist, after all it is God's Promised Land for the Jewish people. To deny that is to deny God. 11. Support, aid and abet the illegitimate despots of the Middle East and the Muslim world. Supply them with arms worth billions of pounds so that they can remain in power. Encourage them to lock up political opponents, especially if they happen to be practising Muslims. Promise them aid and favours if they join in with "war on terror" and use this to subjugate their people and dismantle civil institutions including the media. Teach them how to torture prisoners safely. Institute sanctions against the people if they exercise their freewill to vote for anyone but the despots. Stay silent when these despots bequeath the thrones to their sons. 12. Guantanamo prison is to make the world a safer place Abduct young Muslims from anywhere in the world then throw them in Guantanamo prison. Let them rot there. They have no rights. They are illegal combatants or terrorists. CiF

Originally posted by mystic: ^^^Amin I don’t see any of the TFG supporters showing any sympathy to the innocent people who were slaughtered by Ethiopian and TFG thugs. That alone speaks volume. I remember how much havoc they created on this forum when few Ethiopian and TFG soldiers where dragged through the streets. And now when more than 1000 of their countrymen, women and children have being massacred savagely they remain silent, as if they are laughing, grinning in the dark, with yellowy stained teeth. The enemy is nothing compared to them. May Allah save us from them... So true,,they are too busy celebrating trips by those responsible for this mess which says alot about them.

Dont know about you guys but i've never seen a short sleaved suit :rolleyes: Reer Puntland i hope you teach him something in the style stakes, but then again Cade Muse is no better, tell him to put a fountain pen in his pocket instead of a Bic birol (sp) cheer on,,,,,,