The newest trend - xaliimos marrying chinese

[Haatu]

Islamically a women cannot marry a non-muslim.

[Classified]

Haatu;982273 wrote:

Islamically a women cannot marry a non-muslim.

I didn't ask you. But, thank for your input.

[Safferz]

Classified;982270 wrote:

Of course they can, as it's their choice to do as they please;

but

the 'can' I asked refers to from Islamic perspective. Does Islam allow Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men? Also, if you don't mind, what is

your

position on the matter Islamically?

I answered your question, there is no such thing as "the Islamic perspective" because there is no one perspective for a matter that's been debated over centuries and has no scholarly consensus. Someone like Hassan al-Turabi has said it's permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian or Jew. I don't care either way.

[Classified]

Safferz;982284 wrote:

I answered your question, there is no such thing as "the Islamic perspective" because there is no one perspective for a matter that's been debated over centuries and has no scholarly consensus. Someone like Hassan al-Turabi has said it's permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a Christian or Jew.

I don't care either way.

Interesting. So, the Ahlu Kitab position goes for both genders and isn't exclusive to only men marrying from the "people of the book". Who's Hassan Al-Turabi?

[Mooge]

Classified;982288 wrote:

Who's Hassan Al-Turabi?

Turabi a Sudanese politician.

[Classified]

Mooge;982292 wrote:

Turabi a Sudanese politician.

Did she just referred to a Sudanese politician as an Isamic scholar? *scratching his head*

[Safferz]

Classified;982288 wrote:

Interesting. So, the Ahlu Kitab position goes for both genders and isn't exclusive to only men marrying from the "people of the book". Who's Hassan Al-Turabi?

Like I said, there's no scholarly consensus so some may say it goes both ways, others say it does not. Hassan Al-Turabi is a well known Sudanese sheikh and political figure.

[Classified]

Safferz;982295 wrote:

Like I said, there's no scholarly consensus so some may say it goes both ways, others say it does not.

Hassan Al-Turabi

is a well known Sudanese sheikh and political figure.

Who are these "Some" that "say it goes both ways" and who are these "Others" that "say it does not"? :? Don't just throw empty rhetoric, provide substantial evidence to your claims. I'm thirsty for more knowledge. Educate me, bal.

[Wadani]

Safferz;982262 wrote:

^^ you don't inherit religion from anyone and certainly not your father, in fact that's one aspect of traditional Arab religion that Islam clearly forbids. Don't try and invent religious justification for ethnocentrism and bigotry, Prophet Muhammad himself was married to women of different ethnic backgrounds (ie. a Jewish woman, an Egyptian Copt) and even encouraged interracial marriages (ie. he asked his cousin Zaynab to marry Zaid ibn Haritha).

Both Zaid and Zaynab were arabs.

[Oiler]

Classified;982294 wrote:

Did she just referred to a Sudanese politician as an Isamic scholar? *scratching his head*

He also said "drinking alcohol is not a crime unless it turned into a hostile act" & " women can lead at the front in prayers" among other bizarre things, go figure.

[Safferz]

Wadani;982300 wrote:

Both Zaid and Zaynab were arabs.

Just like the Xalimo and Chinese guy are both Americans, or whatever. What's your point? Zaid was a black slave in Mecca.

 

Classified;982296 wrote:

Who are these "Some" that "say it goes both ways" and who are these "Others" that "say it does not"? :? Don't just throw empty rhetoric, provide substantial evidence to your claims. I'm thirsty for more knowledge. Educate me, bal.

Khaled Abou El Fadl's books "And Allah Knows the Soldiers: The Authoritative and Authoritarian in Islamic Discourses" and "Speaking in God's Name: Islamic Law, Authority, and Women" is a good start.

[Classified]

Safferz;982302 wrote:

Just like the Xalimo and Chinese guy are both Americans, or whatever. What's your point? Zaid was a black slave in Mecca.

 

 

 

Khaled Abou El Fadl's books "And Allah Knows the Soldiers: The Authoritative and Authoritarian in Islamic Discourses" and "Speaking in God's Name: Islamic Law, Authority, and Women" is a good start.

Who's Khaled Abou El Fadl? :confused:

 

What do you think about what Oiler said? Is it true? If yes, do you agree with it?

[Safferz]

Classified;982303 wrote:

Who's Khaled Abou El Fadl? :confused:

 

What do you think about what Oiler said? Is it true? If yes, do you agree with it?

Why do you ask me things you can Google?

 

Bear in mind that Al-Turabi is a political leader who is concerned with Sudan's legal system, that he believes consuming alcohol is not something that should be in the purview of the state (especially one like Sudan, which has Christians too) is not a big deal. Very few countries prohibit alcohol. And the

than the question of interfaith marriage, but you can do your own research on that and I'm not interested in getting into that discussion in this thread.

[Mad_Mullah]

Muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-Muslim men. I don't understand how you can use Sudani politicians as proof

[Hawdian]

Safferz;982295 wrote:

Like I said, there's no scholarly consensus so some may say it goes both ways, others say it does not.

Hassan Al-Turabi

is a well known Sudanese sheikh and political figure.

Could You list the Scholars you Follow Expect Mr.Turabi Since Its clear in Main Stream Sunni islam that A women Can Not marry A NonMuslim.

 

thanks.