Sign in to follow this  
Mintid Farayar

Somaliland Catches Killers of Garowe Sheikh

Recommended Posts

Somaliland oo sheegtay in la qabtay Rag looga shakisan yahay inay ka tirsan yihiin kooxdii dishay Sheekh Gacmey

 

 

Talaado, Feberaayo 19, 2013 (HOL) — Guddoomiye ku xigeenka koowaad ee xisbiga talada haya ee KULMIYE, Maxamed Kaahin Axmed ayaa sheegay inay qabteen laba nin oo lagu xidhiidhinayo dilkii loo geystay Sheikh Cabdiqaadir Gacamay oo dhowaan lagu dilay magaaladda Garowe ee Puntland.

 

Guddoomiye ku xigeenka koowaad ee xisbiga Kulmiye waxa uu sheegay in somalilnad tahay meesha ugu badan ee lagu qabto argagixisaddda falalka ka geysta Soomaaliya.

 

“In alaale iyo intii argagixiso wax fulisay Somaliland-baa ugu badan oo qabatay hal dhacdo oo Somaliland ah may qabsan”ayuu yidhi gudoomiye ku xigeenka kowaad ee xisbiga KULMIYE Maxamed Kaahin oo sheegay in rag argagixiso ah oo Soomaaliya dambi ka soo galay ay inta badan qabtaan.

 

Maxamed Kaahin waxa kale oo uu sheegay in ay qabteen rag looga shakisan yahay inay ka dambeeyeen dilkii loo geystay wadaadkiii lagu dilay Garowe oo lagu qabtay magaaladda Laascaanood ee gobolka Sool.

 

“Argagixisadu wax fulisa intooda ugu badan waxa lagu qabtaa Somaliland, kuwii ugu dambeeyay ee Sheekha dilka ugu gaystay Garoowe habeen saddexaadkii ayaa lagu qabtay Laascaanood, arimahaasina baraarugsanaanta shacabku qayb weyn ayay ka qaadatay” ayuu shalay meel fagaare ah ka sheegay gudoomiyuhu qabashada labadaas nin.

 

Dhinaca kale, Taliye ku xigeenka qaybta Booliska ee gobolka Sool C/laahi Siciid Guuleed ayaa sheegay inay gacanta ku dhigeenn laba qof oo lala xidhiidhinayo inay ka dambeeyeen dilkii sheikh Cabdiqaadir Nuur Faarax ee Garoowe ka dhacay.

 

“Waxaanu qabanay laba nin oo Garoowe agteeda gaadhi ka soo kireystay, labada nin midkood waa kuwii falka gaystay, midna gacan ayuu siinayey”ayuu yidhi taliye ku xigeenka qaybta booliska ee gobolka Sool C/llaahi Siciid oo ka hadlayey labadan ee ay qabteen.

 

 

Taliyuhu waxa uu sheegay in labadan nin baadhitaan ku socdo, marka hawshaasi dhamaatana maxkamada la hor keeni doono, isago intaas ku daray in ciidanka gobolka heegan buuxda la galiyey.

 

Si kastaba ha ahaatee, ciidanka amniga ayaa heegan buuxda la galiyey, iyadoo habeenkii aad loo baadho gaadiidka, halka gaadiidka magaaladda soo galayana si feejin loo baadho.

 

Barkhad-Ladiif M. Cumar, Hiiraan Online

barkhadladiif@hiiraan.com

Hargeysa, Somaliland

 

 

http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Feb/wararka_maanta19-20946.htm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It would make sense to hand the killers to the region where the crime was committed, in this case - Puntland. Let their justice system deal with them.

 

Just my humble opinion...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tallaabo   

It would be logical to extradited the suspects to Puntland to face trial there but Somaliland and Puntland have no extradition treaty between them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NGONGE   

Article 35: Extradition of Accused and Convicted Persons and Political Asylum

3. The Republic of Somaliland may extradite to their countries convicted or accused foreigners if there is a treaty between the Republic of Somaliland and the country requesting their extradition.

 

http://www.somalilandlaw.com/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Tallaabo and Ngonge, thanks for the legal point - but it would be 'politically astute' to hand them over. Unless the legal system in Puntland(I'm also including Somali 'Xeer' in here, since that does qualify as an indigenous legal system) is so disfunctional, it can't be trusted to convict these killers...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Odey   

Ok........just to point the obvious, but shouldn't we be asking why somaliland supports all these terrorists in the first place. We had godane coming home to get his mrs pregnant each year and according to some reports the woman has had 5-8 kids this decade depending on who you ask. Before you all start jump up and down, I am not trying to discuss the woman, but rather the fact that having his babies each year is an indication of his return to his homeland every year.

 

Bottom line; these guys weren't caught, they were returning to their base of operations as always, only this time their victim was to big a name and their route back too well known, not to mention that the place had already been previously identified by more or less the whole world as a safe heaven form AS.They didn't have choice. It was either they showcase them or the big fish AKA Somaliland Leadership is immediately implicated. This is cheap propaganda in my view.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tallaabo   

^ Godane's wife went to Xamar every year to be with her husband. It was upto the Somali government to follow her to kill or capture Godane.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Odey,

 

Rather than the usual conspiracy-minded fantasies, wouldn't it be more productive for you to put pressure on your Puntland administration to beef up the rapidly deteriorating security situation and start paying the security force salaries? It's a loss for all Somalis when civil society luminaries are killed off one by one. We've seen this similar pattern down South for the last decade.

 

Take off the anti-Somaliland lenses for a second and recognize that Al Shabaab extremism is a threat to all of us equally!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Odey   

Mintid Farayar;919696 wrote:
Odey,

 

Rather than the usual conspiracy-minded fantasies, wouldn't it be more productive for you to put pressure on your Puntland administration to beef up the rapidly deteriorating security situation and start paying the security force salaries? It's a loss for all Somalis when civil society luminaries are killed off one by one. We've seen this similar pattern down South for the last decade.

 

Take off the anti-Somaliland lenses for a second and recognize that Al Shabaab extremism is a threat to all of us equally!

 

Dude, I am from Mogadishu and not Puntland, just to clarify before you jump the gun. Secondly I have been in Mogadishu the past 2.5 to 3 years continuously and have seen what AS are and I can tell you Godane's Mrs never came this way, but rather Godane went back to Burco to Make babies each year in full view and with the Awareness of the Somailand Leadership. He was being protected there by his clan/sub clan whatever you call it down there.

 

AS has come home to roost in Somaliland and no matter how much you sugar coat it, that fact will not change. You reap what you sow and in this Case Somaliland has been supporting, arming and providing a base of operations for the senior members of AS for so long simply to ensure the Southern Part of Somalia doesn't get a respite so it may get the much sought after "recognition".

 

The problem is that such animals have a tendency to turn and bite you where it hurts the most. The have bitten Somaliland's Recognition efforts to pieces. As of now the clearly identified base of operations for AS is Somaliland. The current Admin in Somaliland clearly support these guys. Heck!, Godane is Silaanyo's clansman for crying out loud! Whatever you do, don't lie to yourself. We in the South know the facts and had been begging you guys to stop this for a long time without much success. Enjoy you heinous creation!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Odey;919705 wrote:
Dude, I am from Mogadishu and not Puntland, just to clarify before you jump the gun. Secondly I have been in Mogadishu the past 2.5 to 3 years continuously and have seen what AS are and I can tell you Godane's Mrs never came this way, but rather Godane went back to Burco to Make babies each year in full view and with the Awareness of the Somailand Leadership. He was being protected there by his clan/sub clan whatever you call it down there.

 

AS has come home to roost in Somaliland and no matter how much you sugar coat it, that fact will not change. You reap what you sow and in this Case Somaliland has been supporting, arming and providing a base of operations for the senior members of AS for so long simply to ensure the Southern Part of Somalia doesn't get a respite so it may get the much sought after "recognition".

 

The problem is that such animals have a tendency to turn and bite you where it hurts the most. The have bitten Somaliland's Recognition efforts to pieces. As of now the clearly identified base of operations for AS is Somaliland. The current Admin in Somaliland clearly support these guys. Heck!, Godane is Silaanyo's clansman for crying out loud! Whatever you do, don't lie to yourself. We in the South know the facts and had been begging you guys to stop this for a long time without much success. Enjoy you heinous creation!

 

If you truly believe Somaliland with its hybrid traditional/democratic system can be at peace with Al Shabaab&its philosophy, you've truly come late and ill-informed to the game.

 

An indigenous investment in the security sector with the 'real' support of the local population is what's required in both Puntland and the South, something Somaliland has spent 2 decades building from the ground up.

 

As for the clan linkage between the President of Somaliland and the leader of the AS, that's as simplistic an over-reach as possible. Al Shabaab is not a clan-movement, although it uses clan-grievances to its benefit when it suits its goals. The leadership of AS is representative of large segments of the Somali clan-quilt and can be used to make that simplistic accusation against any of the major Somali clan-groupings. But, for some reason, I believe you know this already...

 

Yes, noted for the record - you have a strong aversion to 'Somaliland'. But at least come up with more effective means of opposing the place and its people than: 'This individual and this individual share the same ancient patrilineal genealogy hence they're in secret cooperation'.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mintid Farayar;919674 wrote:
It would make sense to hand the killers to the region where the crime was committed, in this case - Puntland. Let their justice system deal with them.

 

Just my humble opinion...

 

NGONGE;919691 wrote:
Article 35: Extradition of Accused and Convicted Persons and Political Asylum

3. The Republic of Somaliland may extradite to their countries convicted or accused foreigners if there is a treaty between the Republic of Somaliland and the country requesting their extradition.

 

 

:D :D @ extradition

 

How about - the alleged criminals are proven guilty and then they are handed over to the family of the sheikh (AUN) - as per the dictum of our diin and xeer

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Miyir   

Odey;919705 wrote:
Dude, I am from Mogadishu and not Puntland, just to clarify before you jump the gun. Secondly I have been in Mogadishu the past 2.5 to 3 years continuously and have seen what AS are and I can tell you Godane's Mrs never came this way, but rather Godane went back to Burco to Make babies each year in full view and with the Awareness of the Somailand Leadership. He was being protected there by his clan/sub clan whatever you call it down there.

 

AS has come home to roost in Somaliland and no matter how much you sugar coat it, that fact will not change. You reap what you sow and in this Case Somaliland has been supporting, arming and providing a base of operations for the senior members of AS for so long simply to ensure the Southern Part of Somalia doesn't get a respite so it may get the much sought after "recognition".

 

The problem is that such animals have a tendency to turn and bite you where it hurts the most. The have bitten Somaliland's Recognition efforts to pieces. As of now the clearly identified base of operations for AS is Somaliland. The current Admin in Somaliland clearly support these guys. Heck!, Godane is Silaanyo's clansman for crying out loud! Whatever you do, don't lie to yourself. We in the South know the facts and had been begging you guys to stop this for a long time without much success. Enjoy you heinous creation!

You raise valid questions that need answers its possible Somaliland quest for recognition may have blinded them alharam's activity inside the lands they control.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Miyir   

Mintid Farayar;919710 wrote:
If you truly believe Somaliland with its hybrid traditional/democratic system can be at peace with Al Shabaab&its philosophy, you've truly come late and ill-informed to the game.

 

An indigenous investment in the security sector with the 'real' support of the local population is what's required in both Puntland and the South, something Somaliland has spent 2 decades building from the ground up. '.

don't delude yourself, any reasonable person knows Somaliland doesn't have the capability or the means to defend itself against alharam or their method of assassination.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this