Kamaavi Posted December 10, 2008 Abu, aabbo wax saas ah ood isku sii daaliso meesha ma yaalo, kowdheh. Wadaadadu way ka howl gali karaan meeshay rabaan laakiin halka wax iska qaban la'dahay waxa weeye nimanku meelihii loo cayimay ee la isku ogaa in ay ka howl galaan ayey garab mareen. Waxuu qorshu ahaa in saf balaaran lagu ku ciyo waayanaha. Nin walbana goobta lagu ogyahay uu ka adkaado. Tusaale ahaan gobolada Liibaan iyo Shiniile hadday wadaadau ka howl galaan cid kaga dab'o tagayso ma leh waana meelihii loo qoondeeyey in ay ka howl galaan . Laakiin, taasi ma dhicin. Weliba halka la isku diidanyahay kelliya ma aha wadaadnimo la yahay iyo siyaasad la cabsanyahay, laakiin waa nidaamka ugu haboon ee dhulka lagu xorayn lahaa ama lagu dagaal geli lahaa inta laga xoraynayo isla dhulkaaas. Teeda kale labada dhinacba, wadad iyo waranle waa ka budh & buux. Insha'allahu adu mardhow hal dhinac uun bay iskugu shuban doontaa. Markaa,Wax saah ah ood isku sii xiijisaan anu meesha kuma arko, ee nimanyahow wakhtigiina si kale ooga faa'iidaysta. Wallaahu Aclam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted December 11, 2008 Abdilatif Waan maqlay inay wadaadu leeyihiin ONLF waa gaalo, waana la socdaa waxa meesha ka socda, balse hadaan laga cararin hadda, xalku ma in la is dilaa? Taas oo timaad ayaa ka xun wa walba. Dhinaca Gobolka markay noqoto, wadaadau waa inay iskaga baxaan, maadaama ayna la jaan qaadi karin siyaasada looga baahan yahay halkaas. So, my solution is ONLF leave Jubba, wadaadadu leave ******ia. Sidaa ayaa lagu kala badbaadin karaa. Inayna dhinaca wadaada wax ka imanaya waan ogahay, laakiin halaga meermeero. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malika Posted December 11, 2008 ^I wonder what is their definition of "gaalo"? It's an absolute tragedy,when brothers turn against one another,while the enemy continues its spree of killing them. Maa common ENEMYGI baa hadhaa laa isku hayaa,whom is a better Muslim to defeat them? :confused: Ummad baas! :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted December 11, 2008 Ummad baas indeed .......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hadoodil Posted December 12, 2008 I concur with the empirical observations and assessment of AT&T in regards to the simmering conflict between the ONLF and AL-Shabaab. As to the genesis of the conflict, it was the ONLF that set in motion the senseless internecine bloodshed between the two armed groups whose common denominator is to remove the Habasha colonial yoke. Why should ONLF deny any other group (be they from the region or elsewhere) to fight against the Habasha in the Somali region? What happened to the doctrine of the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Owing to the narrow-clannish outlook of its leaders and due to the unaccommodating and non-inclusive literature of its body politics, the ONLF has unfortunately distanced itself from its natural power-base – the fraternal clan mosaic that had been the bedrock for all the pre-ONLF conflicts against the Habasha that the region’s Somalis had embarked upon in the recent and distance past. Regardless of what the ONLF and its diehard disciples argue, the region is the home of all Somali clans. All Somali clans – big or small – are represented in that beleaguered region! As is well known, the ONLF is in short supply of the manpower and resources needed to mount a vigorous and substantive armed struggle against the well-oiled military machine of the Habasha. Its leaders are yet to court and enlist the non-OG clans in the region. In my opinion, this unfortunate and ill-timed clashes with the Islamists will prove another strategic mishap and miscalculation on the part of the ONLF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted December 12, 2008 Originally posted by Hadoodil: Regardless of what the ONLF and its diehard disciples argue, the region is the home of all Somali clans. All Somali clans – big or small – are represented in that beleaguered region! Exactly my point. The ONLF has done good so far, but appreciating this reality and making the necessary political adjustment is the way forward. Other clans in the region are not saints and true, a name and structure change might not bring in the required buy-in immediately, but it will have a symbolic importance. Halganka hala balaadhiyo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalid-Jnr Posted December 12, 2008 At least to my knowledge 2 out of the 7 or so head commanders of ONLF in Somali galbeed are non-og's, yet they make a less prpoortionate number in the combatant force, to me that is more than symbolic!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted December 12, 2008 Khalid, I think the issue has to be convincing the communities, in this case the other clans the value of fighting for freedom from Ethiopia. I know other clans exhibit defeatist mentality, but that should not be a deterent from taking them onboard. You can always have individuals in an organisation, but unless the sentiment of the communties they represent is not in line with what they are fighting for, they cannot be seen as representative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted December 12, 2008 No justification wahtsoever Hassan Turki and his militia to attack and kill the ONLF fighters. BTW, Al Shababs directly and indirectly (thru some arab business men) report to the CIA Operational Office in Kenya and in the Arab Golf. Raggan remootka ayaa loo hayaa meeshii la rabana waa loo diraa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 12, 2008 ^^And, If remember correctly last time you said that Shabab is CIA created organisation. You still believe that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 13, 2008 Allamagan Alshabab is in U.S terrorist watch list. Stop making up stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamaavi Posted December 13, 2008 Ya dhahay Alshabaab waa wada wadaad miiran ama waa wada 'wanted'? Redka dagaalkii dhooblay ka dib waxa la dhahay kuwo badan oo adeerka u horeyo aa baaritaan culus ku socdaa, ma'aadan maqlin miyaa ?!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted December 13, 2008 Originally posted by Abu_Diaby: ^^And, If remember correctly last time you said that Shabab is CIA created organisation. You still believe that? Originally posted by RedSea: Allamagan Alshabab is in U.S terrorist watch list. Stop making up stuff. No, I am not making up stories here just sharing my thoughts with you firstly, "CIAs" didn't create Alshababs and secondly most of Alshababs are confused souls and obviously tools available to anyone including CIAs -why not, thru this arab channels. And my judgement about this group is solely based on my observation on them and that of their senseless actions. That was what I said and what I believe about this group. Look at their actions and what they are doing. Killing innocent people, nowadays avoiding ethiopians so it is pretty obvious to any one that alshabab are causing more harm than good at the momement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted December 13, 2008 Making up stories and conspiracy theories are not entirely different things. You said: "Killing innocent people, nowadays avoiding ethiopians". Look at todays news: "Gunmen attacked Ethiopian troops on the road from Mogadishu to Afgoye. They attacked a truck with a roadside bomb and then opened fire," she said. "The Ethiopians came to the area moments later with reinforcements and massacred unarmed civilians. Ten were shot at point blank," she added. "The killing was a clear retaliation by Ethiopian troops after they were attacked by the Shebab," Abdullahi Hassan, a 68-year-old local resident, said. http://hiiraan.com/news2/2008/Dec/ethiopian_troops _kill_11_somalis_witnesses.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qorax Posted December 13, 2008 Ya alshabab wax ka sheegay? arrinka onlfta wa ay ku qaldamen nimanku taasna waa la cafiyey qaladkana wa saxayan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites