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Asmara: Xasan Dahir sacks Sharifs : wonderfull stuff

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Oodweyne   

^^Dear Mr. Ngonge,

 

I knew that already, but, I could not help it but to make a snide comment about it (for it was almost too good to leave it out, so to speak... :D:D )

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me   

Oodweyne,

 

I take great pride in the fact that your kind never bested me in anything, least of all an argument.

 

This is an entertainment forum. I don't see any real argument here, just comments made by political nitwits feeling their way around blindly in a dark room.

 

For illustrations sake Somalia and for its part SOL is a rudderless boat lost in an ocean with no map, no compass and no captain. Its passengers, folks like you stampede between stern and prow every time the boat changes direction. Sadly enough it is not you that decide where this boat goes, for you are at the mercy of nature.

 

In the words of lil’ wayne It's my ocean baby you all nigas is tuna

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STOIC   

^^^I doubt if the type of Odweyne,Ngonge, and Xiin listens to that kind of music....though I took a propriety delight at that Lil Wayne line.... :D

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NG,

 

You are making assertions, and when I ask you to back it with reasonable facts, you even make more assertions. You said Sharif is clueless. You said he is disowned by his alliance. You said he has no fighting force, or at least you implied that he has no fighting force on the ground.

 

assertion numero 1: Sharif is clueless.

 

How can one go about dismantling this ****** assertion other than pointing out that the man has been anything but pragmatic and realist in his approaches? His moves so far attest to that. Perhaps you wanted him to continue wielding that AK 47 against American warships and Arial power. But he didn’t. Not only him but also the majority of ICU leadership are with him on this strategy. Since you say that you agree with him on his approach I shall not waste my time explaining how he is justified to bend his strategies not his principles mind you to attain the larger goal. What quarrel do you have with that adeer?

 

aseertion numero 2: Sharif is disowned by his alliance.

 

This is another statement that does not hold water. He is not disowned adeer. Few respected leaders, and I say few because they are few, felt that the majority went too far with this approach. After efforts to bridge the gap did not produce desired results, those who felt the peace approach is wrong broke off and named a new leadership. That was predictable. It didn’t come as a shock for many of us. No informed person could blame good Sharif for the eventual result. It was part of the risk inherent in compromising and deal making. In fact most appreciate that Sh. Sharif has spared no efforts to clarify and preach where they are going with this deal. It was the other side that seemed to be inflexible in the face of these new challenges. To assert, as you did, that Sharif is no good because some of his former friends are no longer with him is just nonsense adeer. He-said-this-before-and-now-he-is-saying-this argument is broken as I showed you earlier adeer. And that’s that.

 

aseertion numero 3: He does not have a fighting force on the ground. He is alone.

 

That is just rubbish, pure rubbish adeer.

 

Take away alshabaab, who has no loyalty to any one in Asmara or in Jabbuuti, and few, insignificant clannish militia here and there, and what you are left with are,most of them are, Sharifs forces. Most of the Courts men, plus jabhal islmaayah (JIS) are technically his. When this deal is officially signed in the Kingdom you will see what I am talking about.

 

What are you arguing against then? Those are facts. Are you willing to argue against facts? I mean come on xaaji.

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JIS just sended out a letter saying they have nothing to do with Djbouti group, and do not represent them.

 

 

One thing is undeniable, that the so-called scholars of somalia, who thought they can convince "beesha calamka" and have a political face, while still fighting a "jihaad" have been proven wrong, as they saw their own creation fall apart before their eyes.

 

Back when the asmara experiment was being created, the youth were told to get behind their "culamaa" and that they were the wise, today it's they that are fighting each other on radiowaves, and so the only thing left for the "culamaa" in asmara is to comeback from their mistakes, and eventually the resistance will be one group again.

 

 

As for the Djbouti group, they have no representatives in somalia.

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NGONGE   

The only assertion I made was assertion ONE. In the other two I clearly asked you to explain comments you made. If that counts as an assertion in your book then you are wrong. I know nothing about his fighting force and, since you volunteered that info I asked YOU to tell me about it. Now stop dancing around me and tell me.

 

As for assertion one, I am sticking by my point. I gave you a very good explanation why I think so (twice) and you did not deal with it at all. When you are ready to tackle that one I shall happily continue this.

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^^There is nothing to continue adeer! maantoo dhan waxaad na leedahay ninku wax ma oga....taasina **** la qabto ma leh xaaji! Ha ku daalin.

 

I give you the last word. :D

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NGONGE   

^^ I'm sure we'll meet again though. Waxad nago noqotay sida filinka Beetle Juice. One only has to say the Sheikh's name three times and out you'll pop. :D

 

ps

Who is Gaaldile? He smells familiar.

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Oodweyne   

Dear Mr. Me,

 

Well, let it be said, at least from the outset, that self-preening “flattery” on your part wont get you anywhere with me; least of all, it’s the case no amount of cheap talk can get your little ilk back for that city of Las-Anod (which I gather may have started the trouble of the heat you were feeling from me; much like the manner that dear Mr. Sophist did explained to us, as to what force him from our company, in his days of hibernation from SOL’s political section).

 

But, if you now for some reason or other, think that was not the case; then in that case, I shan’t be the chap who spoil what manner of soothing lullaby that a man, like yourself, may invent for himself, so that he shall have a good night sleep in his own bed.

 

As for, the other point in regards to what this forum is; one already knew that the argument and the verbal chit-chat that we engage in here of SOL was never something that others will stand to attention for it.

 

But what you seamed to be missing in your equation there, is that even a little chit-chat that can happen on the back of the queue of a bus (of all things), has a proper argumentative construct of it’s own to measure it's validity.

 

And therefore, one of it’s requirement is that those who wished to partake in it, must have something that can stand the test of the said argument that has been so jointly engaged in from both ends of that discussion, as it were.

 

But, since that little simple intellectual requirement seamed to be too much for you; then, in that case, one can seriously understand your contention that alludes to that we in here of SOL should say all manner of nonsensical things that comes to our mind, to say the least (which is what the utmost interpretation of your argument will amount to, in the final analysis).

 

As for Somalia, and what fates awaits her; regardless of the colorful description that alludes to that teeming humanity that are at lost in the hulk of ocean-going ship (with it’s attended consequences of been lost in the wilderness) in which you've put before us; one could only say, that one is never too sure that you have a working “political analogy” there, dear lad.

 

You see; that kind of a rudderless society that you’ve talked about may describe to a tee the political situation that prevails in Somalia (since all manner of folks have something to say as to what shall become of that country). But, in Somalilandpraise be god – we are the masters of our own destiny, without standing for ceremony on behalf of others, whoever they may be.

 

But, since, I am unlikely to convince you the merit of that argument in it's entirety; at least in a manner that is equal to your attempt to convince me back, in turn, so that I can see that Somaliland’s destiny is beholden to what happens in Somalia. Then, in that case, shall we say, each to his own "boat of political conviction", dear lad.

 

Regards,

Oodweyne.

 

 

**********

 

 

PostScript:-

 

As for the music and what have you about this sort of things; there is not much I know of about that kind of Ghetto’s laud-screamers, even if it's knowledge may help me to win the lottery that is a pop-quiz-jackpot, at least for a change.

 

But if you want a decent music for a change, I have few suggestion or even recommendation of my own which I can even make it for you; which in turn, will even sooth you to bed in the dead of night (since your nightly sleep has not been what it was recently, particularly ever since that Las-Anod issue has been brought into our attention).

 

And in here, I believe, the likes of Classic FM (as radio station) and it’s nightly concerto of Bach’s complete piano melodies or even Beethoven’s full works (at least in it’s modern recording) will do wonders for you, in here, dear lad.

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The failure of their militias has resulted in this.

 

These men are bankrupt, they are greedy and are at each others throats now because they never stood for any principle outside clan militias holding lands.

 

The fact is they lost their bases and their cash cows and their support even from djibouti.

 

Its a fact and now lets watch as they call Sharif Ahmed a gaal and so on.

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Sophist   

Awoowe Oodweyne,

 

With such loquaciously unhinged words of injudiciously impolitic, I am left no choice but to ignore the first part of this pungently odoriferous that is your vomit which is induced by mere pusillanimity from your part. Jidali isn’t the topic of discussion, then again you know that but like a feeble coward son of a hides merchant, you had to celebrate the only ‘victory’ ever won by your lot against the gallantry paternal relatives ;) !

 

Your obviation from the subject at hand and trying (or perhaps you can not deal with the topic as it is beyond the sphere of your expertise) write ill thought out arguments which when one rummages through the thigh fog that is incoherent words and muddled up sentences; the dearth of substance emerges with devastating clarity—the light of course will be there for all to see. This of course does need au fait; it is all there to see; anyone with proficiency in the English language can see the incoherency of these incongruous sentences!.

 

You might fool the younger people of SOL with limited familiarity of the language and logic, but an old fox like see it what it is: derisory.

 

NGONE

 

I never said our brother was genius; I think he is a man of above intellect and that he is not easily led—that does not mean he won’t play the game in the way in which he sees fit. Now that game has indeed not been favourable to his ‘Boss’. Sharif had painted the picture the why he wanted—I know this will make both camps miffed!

 

The important issue is this; will the resistance disappear with his apparent peace making with TFG? I think not.

 

 

Xiin

 

The caravan has trouble ahead old chap.

 

S

 

PS: Ngone, aniga iyo xiin waxa aan udanleenahay waa maxay? I support practical politics in that I mean making peace with Hassan will bring the desired affect (Sharif regardless of his personality has not enough power within the boys in Mog).

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STOIC   

I knew Odweyne was the type that listens to Mozart or Beethoven. Da-da-da-dum Da-da-da-dum. For average folks like me ( as a person not you the original poster) to understand this music I need to know a bit about literature, philosophy and history!

 

PS I’m sorry for hijacking the topic. I’ll lower down my phonograph and transistors radio

:D

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me   

Oodweyne,

 

If I reasoned like the back of an a*ss such as you have evidently proven that you’ve mastered. Then the puzzle that is Somalia wouldn’t have been so hard to solve. However even with your limited brain capacity, at least you should have been able to see right from wrong. Maybe I ask too much of you, perhaps I have high hopes. For even donkeys know not to kick the same stone three times. How you manage I don’t know, but all I know is …....there goes my classification.

 

 

ps. Whether you lock yourself up in the cabins or whether your on the deck. We are on the same boat. If it sinks we all drown together, men and mice alike. Hmmmmm building for on this boat analogy...horta ever tried to split a boat in the middle of an ocean? and what do you call those that propose such an idea?

 

 

pss: Horta Sophist maxaa soo celiyay, Laas Caanood oo wali la haysto ayuu SOL joogaa!

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I was just listening Sh. Xassan Dahir in here( http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/index.shtml )and he said in the interview that he did not have the required "votes" to oust the Sharif, but still sacked him. So how could he accuse them of breaking the party's rules (when they attended that Djibouti conference with out the consent of all the members)and here he is crowning himself when the majority of the ARS are in fact on the other side of the fence. I think if there is anyone to blame for the break up of this loose coalition(ARS,)is certainly not Shareef Ahmed as he is a genuine and brave enough to seek a peace in a tough time. As for colonel Dahir, he is too stubborn. His ego and bullheadedness will shadow his potential and that will keep him right where he is today (Asmara.)

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