Suldaanka

Somaliland is going to the polls United and Stronger

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Somaliland dad badan ayay ku riday cudur aan magaciisa wali la helin laakin sympthoms kiisu la wada yaqaan. :D 

Caawa calool xumo iyo ciil ayay la hurdaan ama la seexanayaan. :D 

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Oodweyne   

Haaheey, bro, dad badan ayaa caawa suuxsan oo muraaro-dilaac darteed meel la madax duuban.

Kuwaasna waxa kamid ah mid Ina-Gummeed aan biyo-is-marin ah oo halkan kaciya oo magaca Sacad-Yonis ka sineysta oo sheegta.

Waxa kale oo kamid ah kii gudhuuga ahaa ee reer-darbi-katuugsadayaal.

Waxa kale oo kamid mid kaloo Ina-Gummeed ah oo baxsad ka ah boorame oo kasoo ciya Canada. Kuwaas oo dhami caawa dhamaantood waa wada sariir-jiif taahaya.

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galbeedi   

Suldaamka,

 

Saaxiib maalin walba ma nin" Faranji " ah waa halkii iNa Cumar Geele, marka uu Hargeisa yimaado,  ayaa la heshiiyaa inta kalena waa la isu hanjabaa.

Whether it is Mogadishu or Hargeisa , the Somali man can not make any decisions or agree on basic things without the " Sixth community". 

Without them we would be savages without conscience.

I always welcome elections. It is the only legitimate way to oust a rogue leader or measure his administration. 

If the opposition  guys who were demanding the ouster of Muuse Biixi this year, and the man ( Biixi) who  bluffed and called the introduction of new political parties a week ago, discarded their false hubris and agreed with the white man to calm down, that is a good news for everyone concerned.

Habase ahaatee muxuu yidhii doqonkii:

Bariba waan halaabiye maxaad igaga fan faani.

 

 

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Galbeedi,

The so called 'Faranji' was actually there as just a witness to the agreement.

The Agreement itself was hatched by Somaliland's Centre for Peace & Development and was shared with stakeholders. 

Here is the Gudoomiya CPD oo ka hadlaaya jaranjarooyinka ay ka soo gudubtay.

"Arinkan waa arin unkankeeda iyo hal-abuurkeeda reer Somaliland lahayd, Beesha caalamkuna way xoojisay oo way taageertay". 

 

 

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7 hours ago, galbeedi said:

good, let us hold elections.

Of course, an exemplary election will be held. One which is peaceful, orderly and above all much more transparent and rigirously checked voter ID with IRIS scanners. 

This time round IRIS scanners will be installed in 1100 voting booths around the country, every voter will be required to proof the ID they are carrying matches the eye IRIS data that is in the data base. A huge technological feat indeed. 

 

WWW.AFRICANEWS.COM

Most countries including Ghana, Kenya and Angola use the fingerprint biometric voting system to identify registered voters.

 

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17 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Suldaamka,

 

Saaxiib maalin walba ma nin" Faranji " ah waa halkii iNa Cumar Geele, marka uu Hargeisa yimaado,  ayaa la heshiiyaa inta kalena waa la isu hanjabaa.

Whether it is Mogadishu or Hargeisa , the Somali man can not make any decisions or agree on basic things without the " Sixth community". 

Without them we would be savages without conscience.

I always welcome elections. It is the only legitimate way to oust a rogue leader or measure his administration. 

If the opposition  guys who were demanding the ouster of Muuse Biixi this year, and the man ( Biixi) who  bluffed and called the introduction of new political parties a week ago, discarded their false hubris and agreed with the white man to calm down, that is a good news for everyone concerned.

Habase ahaatee muxuu yidhii doqonkii:

Bariba waan halaabiye maxaad igaga fan faani.

 

 

MOBILE.TWITTER.COM

 

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Haatu   

Baadida waa la helay, intee laga helay waa hadalbadni. Saddexda nin ee walaalaha ah hadday heshiiyeen, waa in la bogaadiyo oo tusaalahooda lagu daydo. Waa loo yeeriyay iyo ayaga kamuusoo fulin waa hadaltir aan loo baahnayn. Reer Galmudug oo saddexdaas isaga dhow intaas baa 30 sano laga la' yahay. Reer Khaatumana waa la mid. Illeen ceeb looma dhinto.

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galbeedi   
11 hours ago, Haatu said:

Reer Galmudug oo saddexdaas isaga dhow intaas baa 30 sano laga la' yahay. Reer Khaatumana waa la mid. Illeen ceeb looma dhinto.

Ninka qaawani marka uu arko nin mara yar xidhan oo cawrada uun asturtay , waxa uu yidhaa maashaAllah. 

Haatu, nimanka aan ka hadlayno ma ahan dad xukun kala boobay amaba ku heshiin waayey oo is dilaya ama kala tagay oo la isku soo ceinayo. Waxa aan ka hadlayno waa jamuuriyad sodon jirsatay oo 15 sanadood ku doodaysa sidii doorasha baarlamaan loo qaban lahaa. 

Laba sanadood gudahood 20 jeer ayey beesha caalamku yimaadeen Hargeisa sidii loo qaban lahaa doorasho. 

THe last parliamentary election was held in 2005. You have elected leader, parliament and government, what is stopping these fools to do this basic exercise.

If some you even think this is the end of the useless debate in Hargeisa, you haven't learned anything. 

20 hours ago, Suldaanka said:

Of course, an exemplary election will be held. One which is peaceful, orderly and above all much more transparent and rigorously checked voter ID with IRIS scanners

Suldaanka,

holding elections without rules, boundaries or credible census is not going to create harmony among the people. Last time , the parliament candidate for Woqoyi Galbeed (Maroodi Jeex) contested the election from west of Berbera all the way to Wajaale. THere were no counties or demarcated district to run. 

The same goes with Awdal. the candidate is asking his tribes From Zaylac to Dilla for vote. He is not interested or even asking votes from the larger public but his own clan. He is not accountable to anyone. If a district or county with diverse communities were assigned for contest, the candidate would have been forced to appeal to everyone regardless of their clan. If Awdal has 14 seats, divide them in to 14 districts based on population.

Furthermore, in some regions people get elected with 2500 votes while others were more than 4000 up to 9000. 

In 2005,  Saaxil region which is basically Berbera and few other towns, their total votes were less than 30,000, yet they got 10 seats. in  Maroodijeex , you must score more than 4400 to get a seat. I am saying every seat must correspond the same number of votes. 

If Saaxil has 40,000 people it should have four seats. Make sure every seat must correspond 10,000 votes.

There is certain fear  in Somaliland that honest and correct census might prove false the perception of regions and clans, yet without basic rules, all what Somaliland doing is just obey the orders of the international community in order to get some badly needed cash.

If the election is considered a national duty and democratic exercise for people to elect their representatives, they would have fixed these discrepancies. The early leaders, Cigaal and Rayaale did move the needle and create a system, but those who were ruling for the last ten years have;t improved the system. 

If these people do not know these things, they should ask help from others. The so called " Beesha Lixaad" in Nairobi might disperse the cash and demand elections, but will never help to improve the system.

Look in Mogadishu, for eight years no one is even talking about finishing the temporary constitution . You do not need an army but a political will.
 

 

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One thing most of us forget is the extremely important issue of losers consent.

You could lecture in the scientific or computerized conduct of elections (which are far easier to cheat than the old method), but the most important factor is have you convinced the stake holders that you have generally accepted method?

galbeedi,

Census in Ethiopia became the hottest topic more than a year ago. Why?

The Amxara were against it. Why? Their number may be cut in half.

The Oromo did not mind. Why? They have the most number in the existing system/distribution.

The Somali current leaders kept quiet or sided with Amxara. Why? The current crop were appointed by Abiy and Amxara friends.

The stance should have been:

Somali most interested in census, since the Somali has highest population growth.

Oromo second most interested. Since they need to stand with Somali and also respect current system the most.

Tigray/Afar interested to respect current system, but not so enthusiastic about census. Do not lose or gain since they are among the lowest population growth.

Amxara should be expected to make life or death issue of census. Its in their interest. They stand to loose the most and probably detrimental.

Somalianders should focus on convincing each other, so that those who loose in an election can give their consent. Loser accepting his/her defeat is best result of any election.

 

 

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Dhaqaale   

A peace "agreement" negotiated by Nicolas Berlanga (E.U ambassador to Somalia) with a bunch of clan feuding locals. These "people" have not had parliamentarian elections in 15 years (the last on was 2005)....some "democracy" eh? they keep on boasting about, running their mouths, on this forum. Fools. 🤭

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