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Segregated city of Burco, Togdheer, Somalia gets second stadium

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Saalax   

Well done to the local youth of west Burco who were behind the project that started last year.

 

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Oodweyne   

Lool, listen to this defeated ninny talking, ever so tendentiously, about the city of Burco being a "segregated city". Given that he doesn't seems to know that "segregation" is actually "legally definable acts", which in turn is a government's imposed laws.

And it's not an organic form of "self-selection association" between folks or a "voluntary sorting out" between communities, even if it's a self-selection based on "kingship", as the case is, rather lamentably, in Burco.

Moreover, for instance, my neighborhood in London where I do live, it's highly developed and middle class area with only salaried professionals are actually to be found in it. And there is no working class household to be spotted there around it at all. Furthermore, no one has issued any council's wide ordinance regulations that decreed such thing to take place. But it was done on the basis of "voluntary self-sorting out" between middle-classes families, who in turn decided to "cluster" around each other.

And in Burco it's similar reality throughout the ages. It's self-sorting that was done on a Kingship basis, in-terms of the sorting out in residential allocation of the city by folks coming into the city, along sub-clannish sense of that kind of "sorting-out".

Hence, to talk about "segregation", as if Burco is in the deep South of Red-State-America of 1960s where "Jim Crow laws" and its city's ordinance decrees where in force, whereby such laws determined where people can live; or as if Burco is another bifurcated ghetto-city of South-Africa in Apartheid era where "laws of segregation" was in force, is to exposed blithely as to how much one doesn't know what one ought to be talking about it in the first place.

But in any way, I see why the blighter who is parading this silly argument around in here of SOL is talking about some such allegation of legal kind along the lines of Burco being a segregated city (in that so precise of a manner in which I have detailed for you). And the reason this silly ninny is turning a twist or two on the back of this "non-story" is that because the old old story of how Ceel-Afweyn in particularly and Col. Caare as well as Sanaag region in general had run their course.

And more to the point, that cheap delusion in which some folks were desperately hoping for it to become true for them, such as the idea of having a civil-war in Sanaag region, did indeed and eventually came to nothing for them. And now since that last hope of seeing such thing coming to pass for them in Sanaag region is over, they then are now hoping that a "fictitious non-story" about Burco being "legally segregated city" will in turn give them some sort of "talking point propaganda" against Somaliland to which to run with it in here of SOL.

Poor lad. Try another line, is all one can say to him really.

As for this alleged stadium, I am happy to say that the more Burco gets the more merrier it will be. After all, it will help the "young combustible lads" of that "city of men" as they are known (i.e., Magaaladii Ragga) to have all sort of sport to which to measure each other up and to judge the "manly balls" as well as the weight of it, in which the each of them is sporting it or he is carrying on (as it were).

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Saalax   

Oodweyne you try too hard. Everyone knows Burco is a segregated city (it is not the only one in Somalia, there is also Galkacyo and  others). They will be sorted out in future though.

 

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Oodweyne   

^^^^^ Find out what the definition of "segregation" is and what it legally entails and then come back to me before I take your silly tendentious argument to heart. For you can say, Burco is "divided-up by kingship neighborhood" (which is exactly word you were looking for).

But the talk of "segregation" has larger tones behind it, and it has a bigger legalistic undertones for you to get away with so easily around here of SOL. You may be cheap waffler and illiterate fellow to boot, specifically one who is a career "welfare scrounger" living off contentedly the "generosity" of the English's taxpayers in London. But we are not. And we know what precisely "words" means and what they signify. Got it now?

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galbeedi   

Saalax,

Do you know why they do not hold   " Ciyaaraha Gobolada " in Somaliland any more? because the divided city of Burco has fielded a team for Togdheer region and those teammates fought among themselves with knives. They were  expelled from participating.

Do you when was the last time they held regional games? I haven't seen since Muuse was elected.

The Burco divide is not economical or cultural, it is kinship to the extremes just like the green line of Gaalkacayo.

 

 

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Saalax   
22 minutes ago, galbeedi said:

Saalax,

Do you know why they do not hold   " Ciyaaraha Gobolada " in Somaliland any more? because the divided city of Burco has fielded a team for Togdheer region and those teammates fought among themselves with knives. They were  expelled from participating.

Do you when was the last time they held regional games? I haven't seen since Muuse was elected.

The Burco divide is not economical or cultural, it is kinship to the extremes just like the green line of Gaalkacayo.

 

 

  That was 2012 :D . The whole tournament had to be shut. 

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Don't anyone tell you that there isn't a Somali city which is not divided along clan lines. We know even Boorama is divided into clan ghetos. The divisions in Boorama is not that obvious to the naked eye due to the political weight of the subclans that make up the division. 

Whereas, the current cut-throat politicking between two heavyweights neighbors in Togdheer is just highlighting or polarising the division. But it is as divided as any other Somali city. 

Burco cannot be compared to Galkacyo. Gaalkacyo's division is level of its own, where two rival administration run side by side with two different flags and systems. 

Also, in comparison to the clan division in Puntland where even the Maxamuuds do not share a common city, Burco doesn't look that bad. The Ciise Maxamuud own Garowe 100% and anyone else is a guest. The same goes for Qardho or North Galkacyo where Cismaan Maxamuud and Cumar Maxamuud make 100%. 

In any case, the division is a relic of Reer-miyi days where clans do not trust even their neighbors. It also goes to the very psych of the Somali culture. Somalis way of greeting each other is actually getting the latest news of the situation of the land:  'Maxaa la shaagay?" "Ma nabad baa?" these are all related to if there are no conflict. 

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12 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

Don't anyone tell you that there isn't a Somali city which is not divided along clan lines. We know even Boorama is divided into clan ghetos. 

The current cut-throat politicking between neighbors in Togdheer is just highlighting or polarising the division. But it is as divided as any other Somali city. 

Burco cannot be compared to Galkacyo. Gaalkacyo's division is level of its own, where two rival administration run side by side with two different flags and systems. 

Also, in comparison to the clan division in Puntland where even the Maxamuuds do not share a common city, Burco doesn't look that bad. The Ciise Maxamuud own Garowe 100% and anyone else is a guest. The same goes for Qardho or North Galkacyo where Cismaan Maxamuud and Cumar Maxamuud make 100%. 

In any case, the division is a relic of Reer-miyi days where clans do not trust even their neighbors. It also goes to the very psych of the Somali culture. Somalis way of greeting each other is actually getting the latest news of the situation of the land:  'Maxaa la shaagay?" "Ma nabad baa?" these are all related to if there are no conflict. 

Agah, and I thought ahead of every other Maryooley. What hope is there for us😋

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galbeedi   
23 minutes ago, Suldaanka said:

Don't anyone tell you that there isn't a Somali city which is not divided along clan lines. We know even Boorama is divided into clan ghetos.

Suldaanka,

Growing up there in the late seventies and early eighties , never heard or seen clan ghettos or sub clans concentrate in any area. Everything was mixed. 

Although lately, corruption by consecutive mayors might have created ghettos by giving new lands to his sub clan which might attract like minded clans. Anyway overall Borama is mixed , and most people do not notice. 

I might add that there is a trend everywhere among Somalis to curve their own clan ghettos due to security and political fragmentation. Also, the system encourages sectarianism. You might live in the west end of the city, yet you are allowed to vote your clansman who lives in the east. There is no wards or ridding districts.

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@galbeedi

You have a romanticised memory of Borama or Awdal. You have a lot of catching up to do. Waar dadkii waa bahaloobay and but thank goodness wali maynu Dugaagoobin sida Koonfurta. We have just grown thicker skin and a bit more hair in the back. :D

If you go to Djibouti, you will know exactly what I mean. The people of Djibouti are still innocent and god fearing, even after 20 years of wave after wave of Refugees. You can still feel 'Bari samaatkii' sidu dadku ahaan jiray. 

Yes, Boorama is keeping things civil but boy o boy, during the election season, that is when the civility goes out the door and it is all about reer hebel ayaa inaga wata. :D 

The ultimate challenge of the century to Somali leadership is how they can lessen Qabyaalad during an election year? 

Do you have any ideas? Because Somaliland desparately needs a way out of the rat hole. 

54 minutes ago, Che -Guevara said:

Agah, and I thought ahead of every other Maryooley. What hope is there for us😋

There is hope. In fact, if there is any people in Africa that is capable of transforming itself, it is the Somalis. Change comes naturally to Somalis due to their nomadic lifestyle where they will sleep a different corner of the country every other week. But the biggest barrier Somalis face is Trust, which is in very short supply. 

 But never lose hope. 

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