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If Farmaajo doesn't eliminate Madoobe Soon, then the office of the president will be damaged forever.

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galbeedi   

By the order of the so called international community, Somali leaders met in Garoowe, Puntand , to resolve some issue about the next election and how to divide the money coming from Nairobi. By the normal world standard the major issues are negotiated by bureaucrats and mid level politicians or ministerial delegations to push the process ahead. At the end the principles, mainly either the prime minister or the president arrives and discusses the main sticking points before signing the document. 

 

If there is impasse between the groups, the main disagreement points are put aside and those agreed upon are inked collectively while showing maturity and understanding. That is the real world.

Here in Garoowe, without prior preparation or memorandum of understanding of the issues, everyone including the president sat down in a room and debated almost every thing about a week. 

In the land of dysfunction and anarchy , you start the whole thing from the top in order to satisfy the the men who are carrying the Nairobi money in their bags. Puntalnd leader C/laahi Deni and Hir-shabeele leader Waare  want some money to manage the affairs of their regions, and might get their wish for some badly needed cash. They have also shown some class including the South West leader Lafta Gareen . On the other hand, Galmudug leader Xaaf doesn't care anything else other than to extend his term to another three years.  Madoobe, the man of the hour,  want to extend his term one more time while obfuscating his intentions and adding some other issues that doesn't concern him including the issue of the national capital and Somaliland.

On the orders of Hassan Sheikh,  he want to  create a  former president Hassan Sheikh style of of the so called  leaders council (Golaha Hogaanka) comprised from the president, prime minister, deputy prime minister ( the later added to make it 4.5 and add Somaliland in the mix), the parliament speaker and the regional presidents. Just before he was defeated in the last election, Hassan Sheikh created " Golaha Hogaanka" brought MOhamed Jawaari , the leader of the parliament and sidelined and ignored the rest of the parliament. Madoobe want the same way Hassan Sheikh did and wanted to dictate the terms to the next road maps to the Farmaajo government. 

Th president told him that those issues concerning the election will be managed by the parliament and the regional governments had nothing to do. . He  reminded Madoobe that his main task should be to hold a fair and free election in JUbbaland. This tough guy  will not take no for an answer. Mind you that Madoobe is different than the rest of those weak guys sitting in the table. He was the only Somali leader who had seen real combat, not only as a commander , but on the front lines as a soldier both in the Islamic courts war against Ethiopia in Mogadishu  and the war in Jubba against Ethiopia (Muuse  Biixi has mostly taken  his own pictures driving jeeps but never fired a real bullet) . Madoobe was badly wounded couple of times. He is a real veteran of war.

 

So, Madoobe is not your average Somali leader who could be intimidated by DEni, Farmaajo or anyone of those weak boys sitting the table across him. I do not know the accuracy of the news, but some reports indicate that Madoobe might even tried to punch people to get his way. Looking back his combat experience and toughness, Madoobe would have been useful to us  if Somalia someday wanted  to kick its enemy  out of the country especially the Kenyans. To bad he is  on the wrong side of history at this stage. We wish if he was on our side. Who knows a real leader might have even convinced  Madoobe to abandon the Kenyans and rule the land without them. 

 

Spending seven days in a room with his regional rivals and leaving empty handed is a humiliation for the president and for the country. Folks, we are not just talking about Farmaajo, it is about the office of the president demeaned in way that makes the leader even weaker to perform his duties. If you spend that much time in one place including your prime minister and leave empty handed with nothing to show, that is unacceptable.

The only Farmaajo could redeem himself is to eliminate Madoobe one way or another. Farmaajo can't allow Madoobe to come back and make life difficult for him for the next few months. Mr. C/naasir Seeraar, the man who is challenging Ahmed Madoobe seem to be a tough guy who can openly challenge Madoobe despite the threat of violence from Madoobe. He is also  also a local guy who could create a more equitable and inclusive Jubbland than Madoobe.I t is the first time we have seen a real challenger to Madoobe in Jubba.

Either Farmaajo will eliminate Madoobe now or will ever be the weakest leader Somalia even had in its history.

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Last I heard is Madoobe has strong allies in Mogadishu. Kililka is also more than happy to send some more ONLFs.Deni is on Madoobe side as well if things get further.

It shows that you are fuming mad, but the capital city was an issue Farmaajo wanted more than Madoobe.

Abiy will not be any help here to arrest Madoobe or take him out of the elections. That card has been used, burned and brought more problems to Abiy.

 

 

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Farmaajo should either be a man and state that:

He wants a centralized government in Somalia and not Federalism

or Accept Federalism and do:

Constitution

Respect power sharing and do only federal functions and do them right

Make states responsible to clean each of their states

 

He is going on an impossible mission of undoing Federal system without providing and courageously stating openly and then resign if the Somali people do not like his proposal.

He is simply wasting time and resource and endangering Somalia more backwards.

 

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Dalmar1   

Farnaago is a weak man with neither stick or carrot to approach his political enemy spoilers, simply because he has no army.

To be a real leader one must have a army especially an battle hardened ones, that will obey the every commands of their leader's, and since we know Somalis clannish history farmaajo has no army to draw strength from since his clan are docile and incompetent stuck in Gedo under Kenya's daily bombardment, and as for using HAG for army it's already too late as Farmaajo is annoyingly hated and no army especially iljeexs (the truest army in Somalia) will every obey the hypocrite weak Farmaajo.

Siade Barre drew strength from riding the backs of HAG, it's only after HAG awoke that Siade fell of power and ran cowardly, Farmaajo just like his uncle Siade is already hated severly by reer Mogadishu.

Somalia needs a real leader not a weak leader like hypocrite Farmaajo and the lying langaab stooge kheyre.

 

In short the only reason the office of Somalia President is tainted or rather destroyed as you put it is simply because a weak man with no tooth (army) is sitting on it, but the moment a real lion President (capable of violence) arises the respect and fear of that presidential seat will be easily restored.

 

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Apophis   
7 hours ago, galbeedi said:

By the order of the so called international community, Somali leaders met in Garoowe, Puntand , to resolve some issue about the next election and how to divide the money coming from Nairobi. By the normal world standard the major issues are negotiated by bureaucrats and mid level politicians or ministerial delegations to push the process ahead. At the end the principles, mainly either the prime minister or the president arrives and discusses the main sticking points before signing the document. 

 

If there is impasse between the groups, the main disagreement points are put aside and those agreed upon are inked collectively while showing maturity and understanding. That is the real world.

Here in Garoowe, without prior preparation or memorandum of understanding of the issues, everyone including the president sat down in a room and debated almost every thing about a week. 

In the land of dysfunction and anarchy , you start the whole thing from the top in order to satisfy the the men who are carrying the Nairobi money in their bags. Puntalnd leader C/laahi Deni and Hir-shabeele leader Waare  want some money to manage the affairs of their regions, and might get their wish for some badly needed cash. They have also shown some class including the South West leader Lafta Gareen . On the other hand, Galmudug leader Xaaf doesn't care anything else other than to extend his term to another three years.  Madoobe, the man of the hour,  want to extend his term one more time while obfuscating his intentions and adding some other issues that doesn't concern him including the issue of the national capital and Somaliland.

On the orders of Hassan Sheikh,  he want to  create a  former president Hassan Sheikh style of of the so called  leaders council (Golaha Hogaanka) comprised from the president, prime minister, deputy prime minister ( the later added to make it 4.5 and add Somaliland in the mix), the parliament speaker and the regional presidents. Just before he was defeated in the last election, Hassan Sheikh created " Golaha Hogaanka" brought MOhamed Jawaari , the leader of the parliament and sidelined and ignored the rest of the parliament. Madoobe want the same way Hassan Sheikh did and wanted to dictate the terms to the next road maps to the Farmaajo government. 

Th president told him that those issues concerning the election will be managed by the parliament and the regional governments had nothing to do. . He  reminded Madoobe that his main task should be to hold a fair and free election in JUbbaland. This tough guy  will not take no for an answer. Mind you that Madoobe is different than the rest of those weak guys sitting in the table. He was the only Somali leader who had seen real combat, not only as a commander , but on the front lines as a soldier both in the Islamic courts war against Ethiopia in Mogadishu  and the war in Jubba against Ethiopia (Muuse  Biixi has mostly taken  his own pictures driving jeeps but never fired a real bullet) . Madoobe was badly wounded couple of times. He is a real veteran of war.

 

So, Madoobe is not your average Somali leader who could be intimidated by DEni, Farmaajo or anyone of those weak boys sitting the table across him. I do not know the accuracy of the news, but some reports indicate that Madoobe might even tried to punch people to get his way. Looking back his combat experience and toughness, Madoobe would have been useful to us  if Somalia someday wanted  to kick its enemy  out of the country especially the Kenyans. To bad he is  on the wrong side of history at this stage. We wish if he was on our side. Who knows a real leader might have even convinced  Madoobe to abandon the Kenyans and rule the land without them. 

 

Spending seven days in a room with his regional rivals and leaving empty handed is a humiliation for the president and for the country. Folks, we are not just talking about Farmaajo, it is about the office of the president demeaned in way that makes the leader even weaker to perform his duties. If you spend that much time in one place including your prime minister and leave empty handed with nothing to show, that is unacceptable.

The only Farmaajo could redeem himself is to eliminate Madoobe one way or another. Farmaajo can't allow Madoobe to come back and make life difficult for him for the next few months. Mr. C/naasir Seeraar, the man who is challenging Ahmed Madoobe seem to be a tough guy who can openly challenge Madoobe despite the threat of violence from Madoobe. He is also  also a local guy who could create a more equitable and inclusive Jubbland than Madoobe.I t is the first time we have seen a real challenger to Madoobe in Jubba.

Either Farmaajo will eliminate Madoobe now or will ever be the weakest leader Somalia even had in its history.

I was laughing as I read this, there was a little truth mixed with alot of nonsense.

 

it is true, that Ahmed Madobe is stronger in every sense thab Farmaajo but your analysis is, as always, bent against any OG leader. But it means nothing in the end.

 

Farmaajo will go in a years time note hated than before, and Ahmed Madobe will rule Jubbaland for the next 5 years. Goanka Jubbaland waxa leh  reer OG, intooda badan na waxey dooran doonan Ahmed Madobe.

 

Farmajo will lose bothe his hands in this fight. We brought his bigger uncle down, who is he being guarded by fufu Ugandans.

 

madaxweyne by mouth . Foolish

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galbeedi   

Apophis,

I am not against OG.

Mr. Seeraar ( The ****)  is a lost cousin of mine and I am supporting him.

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Apophis   
6 hours ago, galbeedi said:

Apophis,

I am not against OG.

Mr. Seeraar ( The ****)  is a lost cousin of mine and I am supporting him.

You and many others support the destruction of Jubbaland and speaking of Serar, he is a local candidate (though we believe he is a puppet for the enemies of the Family) but he will lose against Ahmed Madobe. Serar is just not that popular (hence his antics). The majority of **** simply support Sheikh Madobe, bar few hungry short termists.

The important thing is this( Ahmed Madobe exposed it) Farmaajo will not get a day extra in Villa Somalia. He can spend his remaining time as he wishes but tick tock, the clock is running down. I don’t expect this people to ever get this seat in our lifetime. Let them do what they can now.

 

But let us speak of the lashing Ahmed Madobe gave to the weakling Farmaajo, it made laugh runti.

 

Farmaajo cannot speak to or capture the heart of Somalis the way Ahmed Madobe is able to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Apophis   

By the way, lets be clear; reer Gedo are happy and willing participants of Jubbaland (after all they neither benefiited from Siyad Bare’s rule nor Farmaajo’s now) but suffered because of the civil war and are thus happy with their fair share and the peace.

 

The problem has always been their invading cousins from  Cabudwaq in who’s interest Farmaajo wants to capture Kismayo. It is this impish sub clan who are responsible for the woes of the Somali nation. This we know.

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galbeedi   

One thing I agree with you is Farmaajo can not match the toughness and eloquence of Ahmed Madoobe. Even the disorganized opposition from Mogadishu  is riding him as the man who would confront Farmaajo.

I do not think that Farmaajo will win re-election, that is given. don't you think that in the Jubbaland parliament there are other clans who also votes that might switch to Seeraar , after all money counts in Jubba just like in Mogadishu.

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Why does an avowed atheist in SOL defend a wadaad-turned-warlord-turned-madaxweyne-maamul-goboleed ku sheeg? That is the disease of qabyaalad. Cajiib iyo barkeeda. Madoobe, knowing his seef laboodnimadiisa, kanoo kale hadduu Kismaayo ku arki lahaa qoorta ayuu ka goyn lahaa.

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Apophis   
4 hours ago, galbeedi said:

One thing I agree with you is Farmaajo can not match the toughness and eloquence of Ahmed Madoobe. Even the disorganized opposition from Mogadishu  is riding him as the man who would confront Farmaajo.

I do not think that Farmaajo will win re-election, that is given. don't you think that in the Jubbaland parliament there are other clans who also votes that might switch to Seeraar , after all money counts in Jubba just like in Mogadishu.

Don’t worry about Jubbaland. Serar and Madobe are two brothers. Their disagreements have nothing to do with you.

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gooni   

Maamul gobaleedka ay xaqooda uga doonayaan dawladda dhexe ma 5'ta km oo kenyaatigu joogo iyo 5'ta isbaaro ee taala bandiiradley baa?

Xaqiiqdii xaaf iyo madoobe waxaan hadal ahayn  gacanta uguma jiraan hadii dameer faras la ordana waxay u badan tahay inuu neef-qabad la ordi waayo.

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Apophis   
2 hours ago, gooni said:

Maamul gobaleedka ay xaqooda uga doonayaan dawladda dhexe ma 5'ta km oo kenyaatigu joogo iyo 5'ta isbaaro ee taala bandiiradley baa?

Xaqiiqdii xaaf iyo madoobe waxaan hadal ahayn  gacanta uguma jiraan hadii dameer faras la ordana waxay u badan tahay inuu neef-qabad la ordi waayo.

5km ee Farmaajo Ugandeska ku ilaliyan ka hadal.

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gooni   

Mowduuca doodu ma'ahan farmajo iyo madoobe

Doodu waa tabasho ka timid maamul goboleedyada qaarkood oo ah waxbaa nooga maqan federaalka dhexe, gaar ahaan galmudug iyo jubaland.

Federaalku intuu doono ha xukumo dacwo ma'ahan shaqadiisuu wataa.

Mr.madoobe wuxuu leeyahay xaqii jubaland ma hayno!!,

Aaway jubaland'ta uu wax u doonayo ma tobankaan nin oo kenyatiga la joogaa mise waa sadex gobol oo uusan wali indha saarin sidii loo doortay?

Waligaa ma maqashay madoobe oo socdaal ku tagay magaalo hoos tagta xukunkiisa xataa cirka ha maro haduu doonee?

Awoowe kismaayo dhagaxbuur ma'ahan waxaa dega tobonaan qabiil oo qaarkood afsoomaaliba ku hadlin ma aaminsani in nin maskax warlord ku jirto uu wadi karo.

Waxaa loo baahan yahay nin xadari ah maskax furan dadka iyo dawladda dhexe isku xiri kara, xaqiisana si degan kusoo dhacsan kara oo aan aftaag lahayn.

Xaaf

Been kuu sheegi maayee meel fadhi u ah kuma taalo galmudug

Koonfurta gaalkacyo mundul lagusoo dhaweeyo kuma yaalo, shaabad warqad galmudug leedahayna wali lama samayn

Cadaado warkeeda iska daa.

Dhusomareeb kaneecaa ku cunaysa waa haad geed waayay, jufadiisa madaxwyne kale bay dooratay.

Nimanka noocaas maamulkoodu yahay maskaxdooduna jahli ka buuxo, garbihii federaalku ku duuli lahaa malagu sheegi karaa? Simply waa maya.

Puntland 

Nimankaan waxay ka dhiganaysaa jaranjaro ay hadafkooda ku gaaraan

Hadafkoodu muxuu yahay? 

Hadafkoodu waa dawlad dhinac ordaysa tan federaalka oo wax kasta oo golaha federaalka kasoo baxa si toos ah dastuurkooda uga hor imaanayo waana camiil shisheeye u adeega oo isla markuu hadlaba la casuumayo.

 

Si kastaba farmaajo wuxuu tooshka ku qabtaa waxa laga dhaqaaqi la'yahay haday noqoto siyaasiyiin dantooda ku indho beelay haday noqoto madax goboleed faasida haday noqoto ganacsato fowdada ku naaxda

Fashil waxaa ah hadii aad tooshka dansato oo aad gudcur ku lugayso.

Beer qodax ka dhex baxday lama guran karo ilaa qodaxda laga nadiifiyo.

Madaxweyne aysan madax goboleedka isku dhici madaxweyne ma'ahan adigoo ka cabir qaadanaya dhaqankooda.

 

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