Alla STHLM_Lady, don't start me off again....saan maanta u qoslay ilahaa og....moti adeer macaan ha i cunin yaah....*xirsigeeygi aaway toloow*

loooooooooooool @ my awoowe moti.......kix kix kix kix......dhiq dhiq dhiq dhiq....... Hey everyone, am i the only one reminded of that scene in qabyo 1 where the old man tries shukaansi with the young girl by singing her a song and sounding like an old geezer? alla beerka...kix kix kix kix.... qosolka badan waa xaraan, so i think i'll reserve further commnets for the future.... *chuckles on how headstrong moti is*

Hibo, abaayo i think you have innocently started a 3rd world war...Many are taking your words out of context and are judging one another subjectively. As for you intimidating a faarax, perhaps the faaraxs in question have different characteristics than you. Maybe they are too shy, lost for words because of you. Or maybe the setting is wrong....You know, i might go as far as suggest that they may be experiencng a stressful day and it's just a fluke...Whatever the case may be, no one can deside why an individual reacts the way he/she does. I don't think that any man would be intimidated by a beautiful, outspoken and intelligent sister if the calaf was there. It would add to her attractions rather than make her unwanted. So perhaps you haven't come across that special faarax that would steal all of your rational and intellectual thoughts yet. Personality is not defected by education and neither is it furtherly attributed by it. So sister, i'm sure that when the right faarax on the yellow geel comes allong, all those other ones on the dameers will fade in oblivion....Untill then, you can always sharpen your wits on those faaraxs around. As for all of those brothers and sisters who have started the whole she said/he said business...Remember that we have all been brought up by hooyos who raised us a certain way with certain principles, and because of this we have more in common and shouldn't be arguing.... As for the whole chauvinist/housewife attacks. I don't think that any woman, no matter how "westernized", will want to neglect her home once she is settles with a husband and children. And if she's educated, it will benefit her children as she can give them her knowledge. The same thing goes for men. As soon as our men have settled, they tend to be more family orientated that carreer driven. There are some bad apples like in all other societies. But in the end, we will all have the same homes that our hooyos and aabos had insha allah......I don't know about you, but that is something that i would strife for....

oh deary deary me Bee, don't let it get to ya....shall i send you some of my prozac? Shaqsii, it is really hard to say what we wish in a future partner for the simple reason that we don't know our own minds well enough....we are totally subjective, and what we want changes with our moods.... And anywayz what happened to leaving it to calaf? When we think about who would suit us, we tend to look at the superficial gains we get..like making friends jealous and looking good together. But when the whole romantic notion most seem to harbour evaporates, what will we be left with, and will the real person ever be able to fulfil the silly fantasies we have created in our minds?

/// loooooooooool i haven't heard, or rather seen, someone saying acuudkeey for a looooong while. I think the whole pantomime consists of a modern day faustian agreements. At the beginning both parties are adament in their resolve to honour their promises. Than one side feels obliged while the other side feels caught in a compromise. And finally one side regrets, but it is too late to turn back. The whole enactments is a parody of that which we would consider true emotions. Both "man" and "woman" try to live out a fantasy, but keeping in mind that they have two different fantasies, they both end up being disappointed by the end result. Rayaana, i felt the depth of your imagery sister brother sophist doesn't have the female prespective, and there for can't enjoy the true colors of your realism

Around Camden Town many somali sisters wear jilbaab and in my opinion do discredit to it. They stare at anyone who doesn't wear a jilbaab and don't even give a reply when i greet them according to our Islamic ways. They anger me, be cause once they have donned on a jilbaab they have become representatives of our religion and ignoring another muslimah's salaams just doesn't strike me very Islamic.... Thank Allah there are many sisters who wear it and abide the responsibility they carry. Flying, i don't think it matters what you wear as long as you cover yourself with modesty in mind.

Is blue blood by any chance part of the requirements? You guys are more demanding than the sisters...If you meet ms perfection, do ask whether she has many brothers or male cousins!

Well samiyah, when you-know-what stressed me out, i turn my focus to something else...give my brains a holiday as it where. Primrose hill park is near my school and has idyllic views, so it's a fave scape spot for myself as well as fellow students. It's so peaceful and distracts me from all that's troubling me...If that fails, i resort to biting off the heads of those who dare advice me how i should plan my revision ....How about u sis? I haven't any quotations as such for stress relief tho....

My bullet would go to adeer moti.....tho...i wouldn't shoot him with it....i would kill him by bashing the gun against his head and use the actual bullet to ward off any moti fan....could this be considered hate crime?....don't mind me, it's the hunger talking....moti i cafi adeer i don't know where it came from!

never mind the frimbi, what about the jeebo that was used by annoying little children (i must confess i was one of them ) My fave auntie would always buy me the whole shenanigan, and it wasn't the frimbi that was lost, but rather the key that came with the jeebo....i think that is enough information for today....

Welcome back abaayo. It's heartbreaking to hear such tales, but it's reality never the less. My sister always says that i should go back to Somalia to get a reality check and become more focused on my future. I still have nice memories from home to hang on to and don't want to soil it with horrible reality yet. But hearing all that makes me really angry and wonder whether it is worth to ever go back home. On the other hand, i am somali and no one will build my country up for me......it's a sad situation

A woman got on the bus holding her precious baby to her heart. As she walked past the bus driver, he said "lady that is one ugly baby".... The woman walked trough the isle in almost tears to finnaly sit next to an old man. He asked what was wrong and she told him how insulting the driver was. "Why don't you get his name and complain" adviced the old man, sympathising with the woman. As she stood up to do just that, the helpful senior offered "would you like me to hold your monkey for you dearie?"

/// Are you serious about going to school?! And working? At least tell me u'll be wearing a new outfit abaayo!

I have so many good memories of Somalia, like the way parents brought bun iyo cambuulo with lots of sokor iyo saliid evey time a child reached jus-camma. The way all neighbours would come to sit just outside their gate on a dalin when the electricity went out...telling stories to children under the moon light...The way everyone knew each other and all children grew up togheter. And then there are the fights....the meetings that took place in luuqs when ever a minor disagreement arose. The way mothers would know by dinner time what their willful children have been up to, after having a visit from the next door gossip monger... Ciid is coming up, and it is around this time that a sense of melancholy sets in. Remember picking outfits for ciid 2 weeks before? Putting on henna the night before and checking with feynuus to see if it had turned bright red. Begging your mother to lend you a bit of catar, after some1 says it will make it brighter... And then...It's ciid. You get visits from uncles and aunties who seem as excited as their children. Gifts from parents who also are captured within the joyous mood...Ahh to have it all back. Comparing all that with the way it's celebrated now is a bit futile. The most exciting thing that people do now is to go to a ruwaayad of an artist they have seen many times, or wander around trafalgar square...How depressing! How many of you can capture the excitement of ciid in these foreign countries? How do you do it?

Gediid, some things really should be kept private...How scandelous of you to shock us innocent women in such manner Bee, abaayo, the halls and invitations are sorted...Now only a groom who isn't overtly annoying to find, and the wedding can procede without hitches Shouldn't be all too hard i presume

lol Gediid, your casho is a lucky gal...But you seriously think any casho is gonna settle for a quiet wedding when all her xalimo friends are egging her on to have a full ceremony? Rudy, bachelorette night is cool. But after barambur duub party, ninkaax party, hotel party, shaash saar party and qaacis get together, u really think there is time left for bachelorette party?

Weddings are happy occasions where we women get to dress in our diracs and feel like brides assisting the real bride, except that we aren't stuck with a husband at the end of it. We get to eat, shake our baruur eat some more and criticise everything in sight. It is more fun being a guest at a wedding than the bride. It is horrible the way our brides have to sit like dolls and eveyone can tell them where to go, how to sit when to smile. I wouldn't want to spend hard earned money for others to enjoy themselves on my behalf. When i get married i want to be the first person on the dancefloor, and the last to leave. I want to jump baraambur when my mother is praised and i want to put my garbasaar around me and do niiko like there is no tomorrow. And of course, singing along with every song as loud as i can! As for the food, i want to eat as much as i can, after all it is my wedding! And being able to go home to my mommy afterwards would be fun, to gossip about who wore what and who looked fab.....Does one need a husband to get a dream wedding?.. I haven't totally lost the plot, but doesn't it have a nice ring to it girls?

Oh finnaly i get to express my gratitude! Firstly alxamdullilah that i am alive and well. I would like to thank my mother for being there with a belt no matter what. I would like to thank my sisters for always telling on me :mad: no matter how long i begged. My sister, who got out her big vaseline case on the northern line when my lip was dry and who insisted upon applying the vaseline despite my protests and much to the amusements of others I can't forget my auntie who on the day we left somalia bit my hand so i wouldn't forgt her, habiar, i still got the mark...thanx I would like to thank De gemeente utrecht for enabling me to travel freely and without the usual hassle I have to give a shout out to meneer van de los, my old p.e. teacher who always let me of with any old excuse And last but not least, my bestest friend the one and only somalian kaaskop, baby u know who u are ...Thanx! I could go on and on, but had to keep it short for all of our sakes!

Wind.talker, my brother. Being a female as such :rolleyes: i fail to understand your theory. First you say that women as a whole are an unexplained dimension, comparing them to the universe. Then you go further and state that you "don't try" to understand how our irrational scrambled thought procces functions. But u continue to analyse us females and the reason why we do what we do despite claiming not to have a clue. I know that i am nothing but a female , but aren't you contradicting yourself in a manner befitting a female? Moti moti moti :rolleyes: , adeer ilko weyne. All i have to say is, i know your insecurities lead you to blame all females for disturbing your "rights" but adeer, isn't it time to LET GO of the hate? As for Shujui, i am disillusioned bro What has made you so negative? :confused: i can see you traveling the path old moti took several decades back, and i don't think i have to tell you what the destination lookes like!

My favorits are "qumayo ha ku qaniinto" and "aweeso ha ku laqdo"....My older sister is a master habaarleey. When she says "biijo u dhimo" u know ur in trouble

I partially agree with you Shaqsii. I can't claim to be a perfect lil' madam myself and don't want to attack, but i think they should have left something to the imaginationas. That would have been far more impressive in my opinion.

OG_Girl, as long as he is a good muslim, thats all that matters. And I think you should calmly talk to ur parents about meeting him and deceiding before refusing point blank. They might meet u half way, if you listen to them and respect their words even if you disagree with it. I'm sure that they only want whats good for you and your future happines. They must have a good reason to oppose you on this. Ask them why, and try to see their poiunt of view. Good luck sister, hope it works out well.

Have people stopped doing that? No wonder i get sideway looks I have known most of my friends for far too long to tiptoe a conventional rule in a western world... No matter where i go, i will always remain somali. And i expect my customs to be respected just like i respect that of others. And as long as i am comfortable, who cares what others think?

Ok, so men are intitled to have four wives in our religion, no muslima can dispute that fact. But isn't it their duty to inform their first wives instead of letting her find out through the gossip mill? Is it necessary to lie about such a thing? After all, no woman can stop her husband from getting another wife, no matter how much a fuss she kicks. And another thing, how can men that can barely support a wife in a european country take on another household? I thought that a man has to have his life in order before taking another responsability on. That he had to be able to treat his wives equal. How come this doesn't seem to apply to our men? I am slightly confused.....

I have to say soor iyo caano qaroor Nothing else will do during saxuur...Also bajiye iyo bisbaas, malawax with lots of sokor n saliid macsaro....mmmmmmmmm.....there goes the diet, its worth it tho