The Zack;728291 wrote: I doubt it unless the heat suck in the 4th quarter again specially James. LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL Those who supported the Heat were so predictably but Veteran team made it. Gheelle.T...Come again:D

^Markaad iska daacfsan jirtey miyaa?

Zack-They couldn't be any worse than anything else that Somalia has produced in the last 20 yrs. Norf-Men will die for you based on two reasons, you give them something to believe or you pay them. There isn't enough resources to raise a private army and so one has to turn to other options. Somali nationalism is dead and the only other viable option left was the religion. Nothing makes men to throw themselves in the line of fire more than allure of dying in the name of religion. Was the only sensible thing to do, don't you think? XX...It's the movement and the institutions it builds and not about men, whatever Amir is in power is here today and gone tomorrow.

^I hope they help the locals first! Nice pics. How much do people invest in primary and secondary education?

Naxar Nugaaleed;728080 wrote: SOL new member filter is taking a turn for the worst LooooooooooooL

N I thought you say you say Hargeysa was self-sufficient democracy. As long as Obama's dual track policy doesn't explicit endorse or encourage secession in the northern regions, it's something we could live. It is not ideal but you take what you can in time of upheaval. But in the meantime, the future of Xamar is more than the cities in the periphery namely Garowe and Hargeysa.

I watched it the other day. It was funny to see the overzealous prosecutor finding himself in the same position as the people he tried.

loooooooooool@Southerners selling Sland flags-these are business people. They provide what ever sells. I don't recognize TFG as legitimate entity that represents Somalia and Somalis and I see Sland as secessionist province that needs brought back into fold in due time. Obviously, that's not in the cards now.

Zack-You seem to misunderstand my motive for supporting AS. I have no real stake in AS as I don't live in Somalia and their success will not improve my life in anyway. My support for them is based on the sincere belief that they have the capacity to build something resembling a functioning government with proper institutions that will eventually offer services to the country's poor. They certainly brought peace and stability to the most of south but so far, they seem to lack the capacity to move from being rebel group to entity that can offer a proper government. If they continue down this path, their end will certainly come. Events like the one yesterday will hasten their downfall and draconian rules they impose on people will only farther alienate citizens. People need government and if you can't offer that, you are no different than others before. You can flaunt Islam as the bedrock of your movement or you wrap buluuga around yourself all you want, if you don't attend to the citizens' needs than you are goner sooner or later. TFG failed and is continuing to fail because it is not real government with institutions that offers services not to mention maintain security. If it was anything resembling government with institutions, two men wouldn't have been in position to threaten an entire government and the State. My motto is support those who you think can prop a functioning government that ensures the country's sovereignty and rebuilds the Somali society.

^Traitor, they should revoke Somaliland citizenship:D The above statement comes with assumption of course:D

^You are missing an important lesson here!

Ibti-I don't think we think we could, should or will have flag-less June 26 but I do agree with you, there's little to celebrate. Just make sure it's not XX and his 'ethnic Somalilanders' that you send. There's hardcore and then there's out-there.

Zack-I don't know about but if they do fail, I think they will fail for reasons that brought down other so called governments not because blow places though having young girl kill her uncle is morally bankrupt thing to do.

^If you are alleging a particular tribe staged this event, that's different story and I can't speak to what people in MNPLS do. However, Boston folks always held one independence day event and is attended by all Somalis. Most northerners in Boston are unionists and not surprisingly from eastern regions and Awdal. Individuals that are secessionists do attend but they don't bring their politics and flag to the event.

No, it only excluded secessionists but all unionists are there including northerners.

If attacker was indeed his niece, it's signalling the beginning of downward spiral for the movement.

Farmaajo is different and step up from the likes of the Sharifs but I can't say he's sincere. Nothing about the TFG is sincere to me.

People are aware of the realities and the unrealized dreams but the difference one wholly rejected the idea of one Somali nation while the other though in no position to alter realities still believes in that. The two are diametrically opposed in politics and vision, expecting unionist to welcome northerner with secessionist flag in his hand is just unrealistic regardless of the need for inclusiveness of the moment.

loooooool@Zack-having me laughing, when was there ever a sincere thing Somali politicians say or do?

^Secessionist flag doesn't foster the June 26 spirit in the minds of southern Somalis and southerners don't support secession. It's only logical for southerners not wanting to see secessionist flag being waved at this event. And it's not really about Somalis beating each other into submission. It's fundamental political difference any member of any society would react to. Tell me any country that tolerate secessionist movement?

Zack-There's no legal disagreement, would have been nice if there was one.

Ibti-It is not really about having the right to be there or not. He's obviously there, it's matter of provoking people by bringing secessionist flag, something Southerners whom form the majority in that town don't agree with.

^How I could ruin something that already happen?

Ayoub.....First thing first, disturbing the peace is usually local ordinance or state law that regulates excessive noise and unnecessary provocations. These laws are in the books of every village, town, city and state. If you have problem with that, please take it up with the authorities. I'm sure they won't mind giving you civic lesson and if you protest too much and become unruly, you could experience what disturbing peace means in practice. As for the celebration and the reason Sland flags won't be welcomed, it's pointless for me to tell you why for it looks like you are playing lazy. It's like me taking buluugey to one of your parties in the diaspora and then wondering why people are hostile if not outright violent-a bit of commonsense needs to be applied here keeping in mind the politics of the last 20 years. But why even show up at event for people whom you consider to be from another country? What gives?

These gathering seemed to lack focus.