^People power you say. What can the government do, when its hands are tight by the Ethiopians? LoooooooooooL....I thought the goverment was independent one -free of Ethio influence. who is running the show the Ethios or the so called goverment.

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^To get rid of them disarm them, kille them ir little noises. They were spared because of their elders but no longer mate... That's easier said than done. Three days of fighting, the TFG barely made any headway. These are not little noises that could easily dispersed.And this is already being played as clan warfare. Time is not the goverment's side. A prolonged clashes will only benefit the insurgency. How realistic is this mission of pacifying Xamar by force.

Duke....What's objective of the goverment here since it is facing well trenched and dedicated enemy?

Originally posted by General Duke: Ouch...Not even Balait better luck with Ghana. How's is this helpful Duke. Jaylaani....I concur we need to put our house in order first. And we all need to realise solutions to the Somali problem won't be in some foriegn capital.

LooooooooooL...When will Somalis learn the answer lies within themselves.No goverment will recognise Sland unless it has the blessings of Somalia.

^^^^Sakhar...I thought the goverment wanted to clean up the place. Why stop now, and not flow through your plans. Surely, small ragtag clan militia ain't a match for Yeey's army.

WAR DEG DEG AH: Diyaarad weyn oo ku soo dhacday duleedka magaalada Muqdisho. 23. Mar 2007 APL Tool Send This Article To A Friend By Email | Saaxiibkaa warkaan ugu *** Email -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Print This Article | Daabaco warkaan Muqdisho(AllPuntland)-Diyaarad weyn oo ka kacday garoonka magaalada Muqdisho ayaa qarax ka dhashay gudaheeda kadib ay ku soo dhacday agagaarka Sh. Cali Cabdulle iyo Ceel Xerka Dheere ee duleedka degmada Kaaraan. Diyaaradan oo aan ku qiyaasay mid rakaab sitay ayaan la ogeyn khasaaraha dhimashada soo gaaray dadkii saarnaa, iyadoo qaraxa ka dhashay diyaarada aan ku qiyaasay mid lagu soo rakibay. Markii ay la siman tahay degmada Kaaraan ayaa waxaa la maqlay qarax xoogan diyaaradda ka dhashay kadibna qiiq xoogan oo qeybta danbe ee diyaaradda ka baxaya oo ay dadweynuhu arkeen. Lama oga khasaaraha dhimashada iyo iyo dhaawaca dadkii saarnaa diyaaradaasi iyo in qaraxu uu ahaa mid cilad ka dhalatay iyo in mid lagu soo rakibay intaba hase ahaatee wixii ku soo kordha warkeena danbe ayaa idiin kugu soo gudbin doonaa. Cali Muxiyaddiin Cali AllPuntland, Muqdisho

This ain't true. Most Somalis hardly ever exchange prisoners. I can't remember reer Mogadisho ever letting go a prisoner regardless of age.

Diyaarad ku qarxdey Muqdisho Diyaaradan ayaa wararka soo baxaya ay sheegayaan in la soo ridey. Afhayeenka Ciidamada Ugandha ayaa xaqiijiyay ij diyaaradan ay lahayeen ciidanka Uganda isla markaana ay saarnaayeen 11 qof. Magaalada Muqdisho ayaa waxa ka socda dadaal lagu baadbaadinyo dadka ka badbaadey qaraxaan qabsadey diyaaradan. Diyaarad ku qaraxdey Muqdisho Diyaarad weyn oo aan la ogeyn in ay rakaab saarnaa iyo in kale ayaa goor dhow qarax ka dhashay kadibna ku soo dhacday duleedka degmada Kaaraan gaar ahaan agagaarka Sheekh. Cali Cabdulle Diyaaraddan oo ah mid weyn oo midibkeeda ahaa Cadaan iyo Buluug, ayaan la ogeyn in qaraxu uu ahaa mid cilad ka dhashay iyo in lagu ridey waxyaabaha qarxa iyo in kale. Guuxa diyaaradan oo ahaa mid weyn ayaan waxa ka baxayey qiiq badan oo diyaaradda qeybteeda danbe ka baxaya kadibna waxaa dhacay qarax xoogan oo dadweynaha cabsi gelisay waxaana markii ay la sineyd qabuuraha Sh. Cali Cabdulle iyo Ceel Xerka Dheere ayay afka dhulka gelisay diyaaradan. Wararkeena danbe ayaa kala socon doontaa khasaaraha iyo cidda iska laheyd. Garowe Online,Muqdisho

A plane has crashed shortly after taking off from an airport in the Somali capital, Mogadishu. Local witnesses said they saw columns of smoke on the ground. The cause of the crash and the type of aircraft were not immediately known. One reporter said he saw a missile hit the plane but this is not confirmed. It crashed in the north of the city, where there has not been any fighting on Friday, although sporadic shooting was heard in the south. "I saw the plane on fire... One of the wings exploded in the air... When it hit the ground, another explosion occurred," local resident Hassan Mahamud Jama told Reuters news.

Xiin....The man got to where he is today precisely coz he was the best candidate that his tribe have offered to the Empigathi reconcialation whether willingly or not. They might not all support his misguided efforts in Xamar,but he will always be identified with his lineage, thanks to the flaws of setting up goverment along Qabiil lines. Prominent Planders in the Diasporo have voiced their objections to the Xabashi occupation, and the merciless killings of Reer Mogadisho. But so far the leadership in Pland is in line with Yeey efforts. The masses might not have say in what these men do, but certainly haven't objected to the Xabashi presence and the Xamar crackdown. Me....Reer Mogadisho were very complacent in 91. And 16yrs of savagery is the price that they paid for the complacency the same way reer Koonfuur paid hefty price for their indiffirence towards their northern brethen. It is question of morality Saaxib regardless of people's history.

Xiin...One thing is for sure. The people of Pland are betting on the wrong horse. I see Planders here in west, and almost of all them support this goverment even if they are not too fond of Yeey. Faarax....No Somalis have ever held their leaders accountable. I doubt my people's from Pland would be any diffirent.

^^^Don't the public share the guilty for being so complacent about their brother's plight?

They might not all be reer Pland in Xamar, but the fact they sided with Ethios against their own brethen. Now the question is will they blindly continue supporting this defunct goverment?

^^^^Insaanimo iskool laguma barto. This is who Captain Xalane wants to kill. On wonders what could this old woman do about insurgents hiding amongst her nieghbors.

^^^^Abwaan what would be solution? What are alternatives to this choas?

The proxy war has proved disastrous for both Washington and Tel Aviv. The Ethios in Somalia are also doing America's bidding in the horn, and it looks that will prove to be more disastrous for the nations involved.

A former top American diplomat says the US deliberately resisted calls for a immediate ceasefire during the conflict in Lebanon in the summer of 2006. Former ambassador to the UN John Bolton told the BBC that before any ceasefire Washington wanted Israel to eliminate Hezbollah's military capability. Mr Bolton said an early ceasefire would have been "dangerous and misguided". He said the US decided to join efforts to end the conflict only when it was clear Israel's campaign wasn't working. The former envoy, who stepped down in December 2006, was interviewed for a BBC radio documentary, The Summer War in Lebanon, to be broadcast in April. Mr Bolton said the US was deeply disappointed at Israel's failure to remove the threat from Hezbollah and the subsequent lack of any attempt to disarm its forces. Britain joined the US in refusing to call for an immediate ceasefire. 'Damn proud' The war began when Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers, but it quickly escalated into a full-scale conflict. BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall says the US-UK refusal to join calls for a ceasefire was one of the most controversial aspects of the diplomacy. The UK, US and Israeli were alone in resisting an early ceasefire At the time US officials argued a ceasefire was insufficient and agreement was needed to address the underlying tensions and balance of power in the region. Mr Bolton now describes it as "perfectly legitimate... and good politics" for the Israelis to seek to defeat their enemy militarily, especially as Hezbollah had attacked Israel first and it was acting "in its own self-defence". Mr Bolton, a controversial and blunt-speaking figure, said he was "damned proud of what we did" to prevent an early ceasefire. Also in the BBC programme, several key players claim that, privately, there were Arab leaders who also wanted Israel to destroy Hezbollah. "There were many not - how should I put it - resistant to the thought that the Israelis should thoroughly defeat Hezbollah, who... increasingly by Arab states were seen as an Iranian proxy," said UN special envoy Terje Roed Larsen. More than 1,000 Lebanese civilians and an unknown number of Hezbollah fighters were killed in the conflict. Israel lost 116 soldiers in the fighting, while 43 of its civilians were killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks.

^^^Forced exodus is what happened to your family dear lad. I can't argue there, but the two situations though both tragic is hardly comparable.

LooooL@Care you beat it to me. So Cara...which one is more believable? One gives a sense of order and the other sense of abusive choas.

I like the diffirent the titles. Forced vs Ordered.

If u're struck by an illness and need to be off work, wouldn't it stink to have a healthy colleague evaluated as higher performing just cause he was there? It certainly does stink but how's this fair to those that were there and picked up after my slack. Why should their efforts be discounted. Not only they do have to do their own assignments, but they had to take on my piles of work. Surely that warrants some recognition albeit at my expense. And managers have aslo to deal with other things that are not and can't be so well defined in the law. There is office politics, seniority, and whole set of other things to consider for the company to run smoothly. Cara....The Japenese are faced with the same problems. They haven't figured out to entice young women to start families,but they have encouraged the elders and more women to join the work force. Only a person with gumption would know how to get the industrialised nations out of this baby slide. Or they could always lax their immigration laws. Atleast that's how the states has thwarted this problem. Of course we might have to learn how to speak Spanish.

Kimiya....Taking formal leave of absence whether mandated by the law or not will have negative impact on the employee's chance for promotion. Promotions are atleast in part determined by perfomance ratings. And this creates a dilemma for managers. How one could consider the performance ratings of an employee that has been absent from work?. Managers must be fair when it comes to the allocation of performance evaluations and rewards. Maybe they should give fathers a parental leave to even the field!

^^^^^Ayoub....We are just joking. Neither of us is serious here!!

Duke...Did this "little incident" ignite today's clashes? What was the TFG thinking targeting these men?