Originally posted by NGONGE: ^^ is cult the new misnomer for Somaliland? Actually, you're right, it does resemble a cult. At least it makes more sense than the usual term used: Riyaale's SNM Militias. ps Most of these men are not politicians by nature. The only man that I regard as a proper politician is Abdullahi Yusuf. The rest are all riff-raff forcing themselves on this fine art. LooooooooooooooL....It is, and for good reason. One must of the cited arguments for secession is that 97% of all landers support the dismemberment of Somalia. Whoever estimated this number didn't even leave a room for statistical errors. What are the chances that many people agreed on the same thing. And what's even more astounding is apart from you who's takes detached view of everything Somali, and the girls who see little value in encouraging what's essentially a pissing contest between men, everyone else in these threads hailing from the North Western Somalia are in agreement when it comes to the current situation in las Anod. It is reasonable to assume this is the making of cult considering how similiar everybody's views are. And I hate when people do or say things out of context. Those inciting the Las Anod situation including this minister fella calling the for massacre of Garowe and Bososo residents doesn't seem to appreciate the brutal realities of the Somalis in general. Somaliland and Puntland could hardly be called a legitimate governments that they are representative of their people's ambitions and inspirations.These administrations do little for their people, and why would they. They are headed by the very same men who brought down the former Republic. If they were good for anything, it was to ensure a peaceful coexistence between northern tribes till proper Somali state emerges. It is beyond me why would Somaliland risk the one thing that assured a lasting peace. Maybe Landers really bought into crap,and sincerely believe that they could over-run everyone. Looking back into Somali history, I would say that's unlikely to happen. When it is all said and done, this wouldn't be a war between two states, it would be nasty war between two tribal entities. And I have a thousand year Somali history to prove me right. Now the question is are people ready for Dimasho iyo Barakac. And I'm not under the illusion that my people will win this or lose, what I do know is this would turn norther Somalia into another graveyard,and the blame this time around squarely at Hargeysa's court.

^^I don't. What I want is peaceful coexistence, but that seem to be lost on your cult. People of Pland have the right to defend, and yes in that regard, I'm behind them.

^^Regrettably he is just general sentiment. And I thought Faisal Waraabe was the only nut, but I guess not. P.S. "He is just jerk" is not good excuse. I guess war is the only thing the cult wants, and they shall have their war.

And that's fate reer Sool uu la rabo....Amazing Dhiiq wuu qulquli, but unfortunately it will be on both sides. The short-sightedness of some will cost of Northern Somalia a heavy price.

LooooooooL@strenghting security....LA was secure and peaceful.Nabad iyo daaris wanaag la diidye bal dagaal dad meel gaarsiiyo hala arko.

What's was he thinking? Somaliland uma baahna Dhiig qulqula' G/kuxigeenka 2aad ee Golaha Wakiillada oo ka jawaabay hadal ka soo yeedhay Wasiirka Warfaafinta Somaliland.Org — Hargeisa, Somaliland — 17 October, 2007 Hargeysa (Somaliland.org) – Guddoomiyekuxigeenka 2aad ee Golaha Wakiillada, mudane Baashe Maxamed Faarax ayaa dhaliilay hadalo ka soo yeedhay Wasiirka Warfaafinta oo ka hadlay dagaalka Laascaanood, isla markaana ku hanjabey in dhiig qulquli doono Boosaaso iyo Garoowe. Mudane Baashe oo shalay saxaafadda la hadlay waxa uu cambaareeyey hadalka wasiirka oo uu ku tilmaamay mid kicinaya xaaladda Gobolka Sool ee la doonayo in la dejiyo, isaga oo sheegay in xaaladdii milateri ee Laascaanood ay dhammaatay, haatanna loo baahan yahay siyaasad lagu kasbado dadka gobolka. Mudane Baashe, waxa kale oo uu sheegay in hadalka wasiirku ka soo horjeedo siyaasadda Somaliland ee ah in ay derisyadeeda kula dhaqanto nabadgelyo. "Laascaanood xaaladeedu aad bay u fiican tahay, wax dhibaato ah oo gudaheeda ka jiraana ma jiraan. Dadkii waxay garteen in waxa dhacay inuu laba maamul oo is beddelay uu yahay, " ayuu yidhi mudane Baashe. Waxana uu intaas ku daray in dadka reer Laascaanood ay iyagu garteen in maamulka Somaliland la wareego magaalada, sidaana ay ku tageen. "Ciidanku waa guuleystey, waajibaadkiisiina wuu gutey. Waxa loo baahan yahay hadda waxa weeye, in dadka la kiciyo looma baahna, hadalo aan meesha ku jirina in la yidhaahdo maaha, " ayuu yidhi. "Waxaan aad uga xumaaday wasiirka hadalkiisa markaan dhegeystey hadal lagu hadlo ma ahayn... Somaliland dhiig qulqula ma rabto, waxay rabtaa wadahadal iyo nabadgelyo inay kula noolaato jaararkeeda; in hadaladaas oo kale – dhiig baa Boosaaso iyo Garoowe qulquli doona – nin masuul ah oo wasiir ah inuu yidhaahdo may ahayn, " ayuu raaciyey Baashe. Guddoomiyekuxigeenka 2aad ee Golaha Wakiillada, mudane Baashe, waxa uu intaas ku daray oo uu sheegay in waxa maanta loo baahan ay tahay "Guul Siyaasadeed" iyo in la dejiyo dadka. Waxana uu sheegay in hadalka Wasiirku wax uu kharribo mooyaane aanu waxba hagaajinayn. "Annaga, siyaasiyiinta Sool ka soo jeeddana dhaawac weyn buu hadalkaasi nagu yahay. annagu waxaanu rabnaa hadda in meeshii la dejiyo; Puntland waxaanu isku hayney maamul, waa siyaasad, " ayuu yidhi mudane Baashe. Isaga oo sheegay in dadka reer Sool ay la kala safnaayeen Somaliland iyo Puntland, labada dhinacna ay ka dagaalamayeen. Sidaas darteedna loo baahan yahay in dib loo kasbado ninka reer Sool ee la jira Puntland, dadkana la dejiyo. Wasiirka Warfaafinta, mudane Axmed X. Daahir Cilmi oo dorraad u hadlay xukuumadda, isagoo ka warbixinaya dagaalkii ciidamada Somaliland ku qabsadeen magaalada Laascaanood Isniintii, ayaa sheegay in haddii Puntland wax ku qaadan weydo "dhirbaaxadaas" uu dhiiggu qulquli doono Garoowe iyo Boosaaso. Wasiirka Warfaafinta, mudane Axmed X. Daahir waxa la sheegay dhowaan in si kulul loogu cannaantay faafinta sawirrada maxaabiistii ciidamada Somaliland ku soo qabqabteen dagaalkii ka dhacay duleedka Laascaanood 1dii bishan Oktoober, kuwaas oo ay shabakadaha wararka iyo wargeysyada ka soo baxa caasimaddaba ay ku faafisay Wasaaradda Warfaafintu. Waxa kale oo lagu dhalliilay wasiirka warfaafinta waraysi uu siiyey BBC-da, kadib dagaalkii ciidanka Somaliland iyo kuwa maamulgoboleedka Puntland ku dhexmaray degmada Dhahar bishii March, markaas oo uu sheegay tirada gaadiidka tiknikada loo yaqaanno ee Somaliland u dirtay deegaankaas, taas oo lagu tilmaamay sir ciidan oo aan la sheegin. Cabdirisaaq M. Dubbad, Hargeysa. E-mail: dubad@Somaliland.com

LoooooooL@SNM ceased at 91. That's besides the point. They are part of the very foundations of Somaliland. But I agree with the double dealing by reer Sool greedy so called politicians partly to blame for today's debacle.

And Yeah this is for Juje. Here are the sentiments of the Darwiish people regardless of what cult supporters would post on these pages.

Originally posted by Jimcaale: ^It does specially when you're asked if war is still going on. That too Aw Jimcaale. Laakin I was specifically talking Juje. I remembered he didn't agreed with the politics of the Maxaakimta, and even somewhat favored TFG, but the advent with Habashi, he made complete U-turn, and start hitting the TFG real hard along with it's Pland thieves, and somewhat praised the stand taken by some Somaliland leaders. Now with this, Juje is pissed that Buluugey is no longer flying in LA. He is not the cult's flag flying high in a Somali land. P.S. Haabsade has no credibility left.

LoooooooooooooL@Juje....It sucks to be a Somali. It turns you into schizophrenic

Ayoub..Isn't Somaliland the product of clan movement (SNM)?. "Clan bond" was the backbone of SNM. It is rather ironic you accuse of others following "clan bond" while you owe your very existence to "clan bond". As for Pland, nobody denies it is clan entity. It was by design meant to be that till a legitimate Somali government that treats all citizens fairly and justly is erected. And it is worthy mentioning reer Sool were of the building blocks of this entity. And this fact seems to lost on many people. They were neither coerced nor forced to join it. Even if we are to take Pland out of the picture, it is abundantly clear that reer Sool are against the secessionist cult movement and are for united Somalia. Hired guns from Sool wouldn't change that simple fact just as Xildhibaano and TFG ministers from NortherWest wouldn't change Somaliland's drive for independence. Peace and mutual respect is what could save northern Somali tribes from each other. Anyone that undermines that will turn this region into another southern Somalia. As for Pland forces elsewhere, I think most sane Planders would agree that they have no business doing fighting on behalf of treacherous entity. Pland however has never imposed itself on the lands of its neighboring Somali tribes in case point southern Galkayo and Mudug. P.S. No one is keeping from Las Anod as long as you come in peace. I'm sure you wouldn't want me to come to Burco with all my guns.

Khalaf....You are taking things out of context. The point is Yeey's ascendence to Villa Somalia, and Cadde extremely corrupt nature has contributed or to put bluntly depleted the ability of Pland forces to withstand attacks from external/internal forces. The failure in defending Sool squarely falls at the feet.

It is matter of either sacrifising the TFG or Reer SSC. I rather sacrifise the former rather than the latter. P.S. Years of mismanagement and missappropiation of taxe monies, and not to mention complete lack of effective leadership has sink Pland into deep trouble.

^They will be given a chance as soon as the secessionist cult gives anti-secessionist reer Waqooyi a chance. Till then these men are traitors who brought unnecessary war to peaceful Somali city.

Originally posted by Zafir: ^LOL. Wiilku waa lix kun dile inoo daa, gaalada ha dhameeyee. LoooooooooooL@Waa Jihaad cusub

d/p

^^^You have point there. All the more reason to avoid completely unnecessary tribal wars.

For everyone from the cult who is confused where LA loyalty's lies!

Originally posted by Mslm: Red Sea: So are you neutral or you have taken sides? I dont' understand this put all the blame on somaliland kinda a deal.If somaliland is guilty of the displacements of civilians so is Puntland, therefore blame both sides or neither. Somaliland has refused a peaceful and mutually beneficial coexistence in the absence of LEGITIMATE Somali government. The people of Laascaanod are within the God given right to rebel the instigators from Hargesia, and take the war to doorsteps if they insist on going down this path. I have said this before and I'm gonna this say this again, war will have dire consequences for all involved and will drain little resources left in this impoverished Somalia. The sooner Sland understands that the better.

^^^You are trying to reason with people that has cult mentality. No amount of logic and reason would dislodge the likes Oodweyne from his self-propelled delusions. P.S. Duke, one shouldn't rush to war. And looking at the situation as it is, it is clear something has went terrible wrong.

Originally posted by AYOUB: Che Just telling it the way I see it. Disagree if you must, but that's my pespective. I've read your "brethren" talk in the other thread so I know the angle at which you're approaching this issue. I'm sure you know where I'm coming. You have to be a tuug to know a tuug .That said, regardless of you inferred from "brethen" talk, what is clear the Sland entity bluntly and carelessly chose to start a war that has serious imlpications for the citizens of nation already battered by years of useless wars. It is pointless to tell you what the consequences would be, but rest assured it won't be pretty for all parties involved.

LoooooooooooL even Oodweyne joined euphoria. The cult is in celebatory mood.

Ayoub....You are very cavalier in the manner in which you use the words like liberation and honesty. Put things in context. We are talking about Somalis here. LoooooooooL@JB...nice rhyme

^^^He hates the cult, and is pissed Pland boys skip town.

Sucks I miss dis Eid....Heard Ayeeyo brought Oodkuc and made that special Hilib.