^^^As ever Camir brings the truth out in the open.

Dawlada Sucuudiga oo si kulul uga jawaabtay waxa ay u casumi wayday kooxaha mucaaradka Somalida Last Updated::2007-09-17 23:15:42 Maxamed Alsofa oo ah xubin ka tirsan golaha Shuurada ee dalka Sucuudiga ayaa waxaa uu si kulul uga jawaabay sababta ay dawlada Sucuudiga casumaad ugu fidin wayday-- kooxaha mucaaradka ku ah dawlada Somaliya maadaama ay dalkeeda ku casumtay DFKS talaabadas oo qayb ka ah dadaalka dib u heshiinta Somaliyed Waxaa Maxamed Alsofa uu sheegay in dadka Somaliyeed ee ay dawlada Sucuudigu casumaada u fidisay ay yihiin aqlabiyada Somalida kuwaas oo xal waara u raadinaya dadkooda ,kooxaha kale ee mucaaradka ahina aysan ahayn kuwa ka muhiimsan dhinaca uu Sucuudigu casumay . Waxana uu intaa ku daray in ururada Islaamiga ah meel kasta oo ay joogaan aysan lahayn aragtiyo ay ku xalinayaan mashaakilada jira ,waxana uu intaa raaciyay in madaxweyne Cabdulahi Yusuf uu ku baaqay in Somaliya loo diro ciidamo african ah iyo kuwa carbeed oo nabad ilaalin ah loo diro Somaliya kuwaas oo hoostaga QM C/hi Caaqil HorseedNet.com

Sheekh Sharif Sheekh Axmed oo gaashaanka u daruuray heshiiskii Jeddah Last Updated::2007-09-17 22:56:25 Sheekh Sharif Sheekh Axmed ayaa waxaa uu gaashaanka u daruuray heshiiskii ay xalay qalinka ku duugeen masuuliyiintii DFKS iyo hogaamiyashii dhaqanka ee ku sugan magaalada Jeddah Sheekh Sharif oo dhowaan loo doortay ururka dib u xoraynta Somaliya oo u warramayay laanta afka carabiga ee BBC-da ayaa waxaa uu sheegay in heshiiskani uu san ahayn dadaal loo qaaday dhinac dib u heshiisiinta ,waxana uu sheegay in shirkani uusan ahayn mid dib u heshiisiined bals uu ahaa mid dadka lagu kala qaybinayay . Sheekh Sharif waxaa uu intaa ku daray in walaalaha Sucuudiga laga filayay in ay garab istaagan walaalahooda Somaliyeed balse ay u muuqdeen in ay xoojinayaan heshiiskii fashilmay kaas oo bur burinaya waxa ka haray midnimadii Somaliya C/hi Caaqil HorseedNet.com

I think the TFG is following the old law. "Give your enemy enough rope to hang himself", thus all this moves by this group will come to haunt them. Their constant attacks on Ethiopia, AU forces will isolate them further, this is a global world and one has to be carefull if he wnats to play, the political role.

Ok adeer, its Ramadan there is no need for such day dreams of conflicts.

Red Sea Good on you, one should not break his fast because he has no real knowledge regarding what he considers to be the "south" or that other Somalia. I deal with facts.. Oh there are no foreign fighters

NN, is right those boys were misled, there has been exchange of mortars, but so far this is not even an incident to worry about that much. The Cayn peace conference was a thing to sing about.

^^^Amazing how they rely on the tea party held in Aferwarki's house as proof of their coming "liberation". Anyhow the Arabs have been a problem its good to have them on board..

SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE TO SOMALIA AHMEDOU OULD-ABDALLAH CALLS FOR SOMALIS TO FIND IN THEIR GLORIOUS PAST THE STRENGTH FOR PRESS RELEASE 001/2007 SG Special Representative to Somalia Ahmedou Ould-Abdalla Nairobi, 17 September, 2007 - First of all, I am grateful to Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon for my appointment as his Special representative to Somalia, one of his main priorities. I am fully aware of the many challenges and the need for strong and sustained commitments from all sides. I will be in the region this week and plan to address Somalia’s serious situation with a fair and open-minded approach. I will be listening to the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and to all Somalis without any preconceived ideas or views. Indeed, I am distressed by the long suffering of Somalia. The humanitarian and human rights situation – the worst on the continent- are unacceptable. Somalis are a great people with a long history, sharing the same culture, language and religion. Few countries in Africa can claim such an advantageous inheritance. Somalia does not deserve to be an international case study on how to manage conflict. On the contrary, it should become again a responsible and active member of the regional and international community. That depends first of all on Somalis themselves and, more specifically on their political, business, and religious elite within and outside the country. It is the responsibility of this elite to rise beyond personnel and other short term considerations, and to come together to rebuild the country. Somalis should find in their long history the strength and courage to consolidate the process that will lead to renewed unity and pride. I will be along with them on that “straight way”. Somalia’s external partners strive to help rebuild a country able to take care of its citizens and find again its traditional role in the sub region. Like Somalis themselves, they are aware that without a government, as Hobbes stated a few centuries ago, “life is nasty, brutal and short”. I will meet all these partners and will call on them to ensure that we have a common approach and joint action in addressing the situation. We should all – Somalia, UN, and other partners – work together towards a steady return to peace and stability. We shall overcome.

Former US Ambassador Favors Arab Troops In UN Somali Peacekeepinbg Force By Joe De Capua Washington 17 September 2007 Somali leaders meeting in Saudi Arabia Sunday say they want Arab troops to play a major role in a peacekeeping force in their country. The meeting in Riyadh between members of the Transitional Federal Government and various factions follows a recent reconciliation conference in Mogadishu. For a look at greater Arab involvement in the Somali peace process, VOA English to Africa Service reporter Joe De Capua spoke with Professor David Shinn of George Washington University. Shinn, a former US ambassador to Ethiopia, favors the Arab troop proposal. David Shinn “On the face of it, it’s a sound idea in that it is clear that the African Union is not capable of putting together a significant peacekeeping force to go into Mogadishu. I have said for some time that it really has to be a United Nations peacekeeping force. And the idea of focusing on using African and Arab troops is, I think, a very sound one. I think it would be very useful, especially, to get Arab troops involved in this. This is also a way in which it would be possible for the Ethiopians to leave Somalia. The problem is that it still doesn’t resolve the basic issue and that is serious power sharing between the Transitional Federal Government on the one hand and the moderate opponents…on the other, Most of whom have met recently in Eritrea,” he says. Asked why he would favor Arab participation in a peacekeeping force, Shinn says, “I think that the Arab troops would be able to empathize relatively well with Somalis. Somalia is a member of the Arab League. It’s also a member of the African Union. The Arab forces would of course speak Arabic and a surprising number of Somalis speak Arabic. I think that culturally, the Arab countries are in some ways better attuned to Somali culture than are some of the African countries. They’re all Muslims.” Recently, Somali opposition leaders and Islamists met in Asmara, Eritrea, and said Gunmen in Mogadishu (file photo) they plan to retake control of the country and drive out Ethiopian forces. Shinn says they would be opposed to any peacekeeping force, even one that included Arab troops. “I think they would oppose the idea of any troops coming in because I think they have decided that they want to seize power and they don’t want anyone there to stop them. At the moment, it’s the Ethiopian forces who are preventing that. And if you had a peacekeeping force in there under the United Nations, they would play the role of trying to mediate or resolve problems between the competing sides rather than just hand power over to them,” he says. Source: VOA, Sept 17, 2007

^^^Adeer, Eritreans and foreighn involvement was a fact, they made the clan courts of Indacade and Co unstopable against other Somali groups. They empolyed suicide bombings unheard of in Somalia and discipline unheard of from these militias of the USC. The fact is that after their defeat only Asmara their nation state ally gave support. The Ethiopian reaction was to deal a blow to Asmar and the rebels, thats why as you said it was over the top. The foreign fighters are there, Al Amiriki is talking today while another white American has been sentenced to jail in the US after being captured at the kenyan border.

^^^Power sharing was a good idea when they had territory, land and men, today they have none thus it would be counter productive.

Dawladda sacuudiga iyo madaxwaynaha soomaaliya oo ku heshiiyay in ciidamo carbeed oo Afrikaan ah loo diro soomaaliya Shir ay yeesheen boqorka sacuudiga boqor c/dalla iyo wafuuddii kulanka la yeeshay madxwaynaha,raysal wasaaraha iyo guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka ayaa ka wada hadlay sidii dalka xasilooni waarta loogu soo dabbaali lahaa iyagoo ka wada hadlay ciidamo afrikaan ah oo carbeed oo loo diro dalka soomaaliya Boqorka sacuudiga ayaa ugu baaqay madaxwaynaha iyo waftigiisa oo ay weheliyaan odayaal dhaqameedyo in dalka loo diro ciidamo carbeed oo afrikaan ah kuwaas oo buu yiri hoos taga qaramada midoobay si loogu bedelo ciidamada shisheeye ee la damacsanaa in la keeno soomaaliya Boqorku waxuu intaas raaciyey in ay dhammaan kooxaha siyasadda isku haya ee soomaaliyeed wada hadal isugu yimaadaan si loo soo af jaro xaaladda sii cakirmaysa iyo is mari waaga siyaasadeed ee hareeyey gabi ahaanba dalka soomaaliya Boqor c/laahh oo hadalkiisii sii wata ayaa sidoo kale sheegay in ay muhiim tahay in dhammaan kooxahu ka wada shaqeeyaan nabad soo celinta iyo xasilooni ku soo dabaalidda dalka isagoo kooxaha islaamiyiinta ahna ugu baaqay in ay taageeraan kana qayb qaataan barnaamijkan ciidama gaynta ah Madax wayne yuusuf ayaa isagu taageeray isla mar ahaantaana soo saaray baaq ah in ciidamo Afrikaan ah oo carbeed loo diro waddanka kuwaas oo buu yiri hoos tagaya maamulka nabad ilaalinta ee QM waa sida uu hadalka u dhigaye Hadalkan ayaa ku soo beegmaya xilli ay kooxihi baarlamaanka xorta ah la baxay, maxaakimtii islaamiga ahaa ee laga itaalka roonaaday iyo qaybo ka mid ah aqoonyahaniinta soomaaliyeed ee qurba joogga ahi ku jiraan aasaaska xisbi cusub oo la dagaallama xukuumadda madaxwayne yuusuf iyagoo sheeganaya in dalku cadaw gacanta ugu jiro waxii ka soo kordha warkan qodobadayada danbaad ku heli doontaan haddii allaha awoodda lihi ogolaado

^^^Adeer you are right not only Eritrea was involved as the whole world stated, but the ONLF, OLF and other rebels based in Asmara. Not to mention foreign fighters who burned the Somali flag in Kismayu and have even spoken out this week. Thus the Ethiopians, Ugandan;s came to aid a recognised and soverign nation against all sorts of criminals. Home grown and otherwise led by Aferwaki.

Prof. Geedi oo nooga warbixiyay kulankisii Xaaji Abuukar Cadaan Dhageyso: - Prof. Geedi oo ka warbixiya is af-garadka Cadaani audio

Funny how secessionits who were praying for a prelonged war between the defeated clan courts supported by Eritrea and the TFG forces aided by Ethiopia. Are now upset that the war they wished for was only a week long and the government they despise, since it makes their clan day dream into naught has won. Thus those who pride themselves on "Somaliland" is cool, can teach nothing to the rest of Somali's.

^^^Nicely put. A good firts step indeed. Also the Arabs should help with training and security. Egypt, Algeria, Morroco, Saudi Arabia all have large enough armies to support the UN troops.

Is mari waa wali ka taagan Xilalka Isbaheysiga Xoreynta ( Xuseyn Ceydiid oo doonaya xilka Arrimaha Dibada iyo Sh. Shariif oo diidan). Siyaasiyiinta ku sugan Magaalada Asmara ee dalka Eritrea ayaa isku haysta cidda loo magacabi doono xilka Guddoomiyaha Guddiga Arrimaha dibadda ee Isbahaysigaasi dhawaan loogu dhawaaqay isla Magaalada Asmara, iyadoo Xuseen Maxamed Caydiid uu doonayo inuu qabto jagada Siyaasadda Arrimaha Dibadda halka Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Ahmed oo guddoomiye u ah Isbaheysigaas uu doonayo in Maxamed Ahmed Tarsan oo ka mid ah Soomaalida Dibad jooga ah inuu qabto. Wararka Asmara naga soo gaaraya ayaa sheegaya in loolanka loogu jiro jagada Siyaasadda Arrimaha Dibadda ciddii qaban lahayd laga dareemay gudaha kooxaha ku shirsan halkaas, waxana muuqda in durba khilaaf soo dhex galay Mr Caydiid iyo Sheekh Shariif. Xuseen Caydiid ayaa ku adkeystay inuusan ka tanaasuli doonin Xilkaasi wuxuuna si cad u sheegay inuu doonayo jagadaas. Laakiin Sheekh Shariif Sheekh Ahmed ayaa u arka in Maxamed Ahmed Tarsan oo cayaari jiray Kubadda Koleyga uu noqon karo ninka mudan in loo magacaabo Siyaasadda arrimaha Dibadda. Sidoo kale kooxaha ku shirsan Asmara ayaa isku haysta xilal fara badan oo ay ka mid tahay jagada Xoghayaha Maaliyadda iyo Gaashandhigga. Mar kaliya ayaa laga dareemay Magaalada Asmara is qab qabsi dhinaca qeybsiga xilalka Isbaheysiga Xoreynta,iyadoo Dhowr xubnood ay isku heystaan jagooyinka isbaheysigaas.

Xoghayaha iskaashiga khaliijka Carabta oo soo dhaweeyay heshiiskii ay Somalidu ku saxiixday Jeddah Last Updated::2007-09-17 17:35:27 Jeddah:-Xoghayaha guud ee ururka iskaashiga khaliijka Carabta Cabduraxman Bin Xamd Alcadiya ayaa soo dhaweeyay heshiiski dib uheshiisiineed ee ay magaalada Jeddah qalinka ku duugeen masuuliyiinta Somalida ee ku sugan magaaladas. Waxana uu xoghayhayaha guud ee golaha iskaashiga khaliija Carabta uu rajeeyay in heshiiskani uu noqdo bilaw dhab ah oo daacad ah iyo waqti cusub oo iftiin badan oo lagu soo afjaro dhibaatoyinki ku habsaday shacabka Somaliyeed, isla markana dib u soo celiya dhisitaanka mustaqablkii Somalida iyada oo heshiiskani u horseed u noqon doono xoojinta tiirarkii amaanka iyo xasiloonida dalka. Ayadoo adkeenaya nabada Somaliya iyo dalalka la deriska la ah. Waxana uu ku amaanay boqorka dalka Sucuudiga boqor Cabdale kaalinta uu ka qaatay dib u heshiisiinta Somalida. Faysal wakaalad wakaalad@hotmail.com HorseedNet.com

^^^Hunguri, why me saxib? ke hore ayaan wali sugeyna ee kan iskaba daa.

Madaxweyne Yuuusuf “Jaamacadda Carabta waxaan ka codsaneynaa inay ciidamo u soo diraan Somalia” Monday, 17 September 2007 Madaxweynaha dowladda federaalka KMG Soomaaliya C/llaahi Yuusuf Axmed ayaa ka codsaday urur weynaha Jaamacadda Carabtu inay dalka Soomaaliya u soo diraan ciidamo Caalami oo ka socday J/carabta kuwaasoo ka qeyb qaata nabad illaalinta dalka Soomaaliya. Hadalkan ayuu madaxweynuhu ka sheegay casho sharaf xalay loogu sameeyey xarunta boqortooyada ee dalka Sucuudiga isaga oo ay wehliyaan ra’iisal wasaaraha iyo guddoomiyaha baarlamaanka dowladda, wuxuuna madaxweyne Yuusuf carabka ku adkeeyey in laga maarmaan ay u tahay nabadda Soomaaliya inay ka qeyb qaataan ciidamo Carbeed. “Waxaan u baahanahay ciidamo Caalami ah oo Carbeed kuwaasoo ka qeyb qaata nabad illaalinta dalka Soomaaliya, si ay u bedelaan ciidamada Itoobiyaanka ah ee caawinta u jooga dalka” ayuu yiri madaxweynaha oo xusay in ciidamadaasi Carbeed haddii la helo ay suurto gal tahay inay bedelaan kuwa Itoobiyaanka ah ee haatan ka howlgala dalka Soomaaliya. Sidoo kale, madaxweyne Yuusuf ayaa sheegay in shirkii dhowaantan lagu soo gabo gabeeyey magaalada Muqdisho uu ahaa mid miro dhalay isla markaana ay isku cafiyeen dhamaamba beelaha Soomaaliyeed.

Somali elders at the Jedah meeting

^^^No excitment adeer, just highlighting the fact that there is some progress in the foreign arena. Saudi Arabia what ever they are tend to give money to causes they see fit. I rather the money go to the TFG than to anti-TFG groups. As for the reconciliation conference, indeed it was completed a few weeks back, thus highlighting how deep and profound its effects were.

^^^Why not adeer?

^^^Adeer, the TFG is the most successful political entity in Somalia these past 17 years. It lacked everything, after theree years its at the door of power. The many and varied excuses people make will not hinder the forward momentum its gained. Yes the TFG inherited nothing from anyone. It has gained the support of all its neighbours, notably Ethiopia, Kenya and Yemen.It has gained the support of the world powers, the United States, the EU and notably China. Today is a historic moment for the TFG has brought into play the Arab power that is the Saudi Kingdom.It has defeted [with what ever method] its enemies in battle. Thus a few bombs, and crocodile tears will not stop the TFG. Resistance I like the way you tried to explain things away. The Saudi's have pledged money, support, recognition for the TFG and its efforts to secure the country. They wanted to play a role in the reconciliation conference and will move forwad towards building up the armed forces. The Asmara group a rebel movement has the support of Eritrea, can they be compared?