^^^Adeer in business one must take risk and Talaal has made money, if we are to follow your argument then none of the top 10 US banks have any real business men and that no one knows business. Many brand names have gone bust, from Wachovia to Lehmann brothers, and they were all staffed by real businessmen who all had MBA's and degrees from Ivy League universities. Thus let Mr Talaal enjoy his money, he made it after all.

Malika My interest lies in a stable and functioning Somalia and this man seems to have pushed that back a few years. I am disappointed in his actions thus far and his failure is no interest of mine and neither is his success.

^^^He is an Al Saud adeer he inherited wealth and part of a Kingdom, you can fail many times when your grandfather, uncles were Kings, when a whole nation is named after your family and your cousins are Ministers and custodians of thr two Masjid's. A successful man and let him enjoy his wealth.

^^^What did he say aside from waffle ?

MMA: Has a point its sad that some Somali's have deep rooted hate. I would suggest he should cure his hate towards Puntland then give lectures to others.

AlShabaab "Qudha Ayaynu Ka Jareynaa Cidii La Shaqaynaysa Xildhibaan Hiiraale" Waaliga Xarakatul Mujaahidiin Alshabaab ee G/ Gedo Sheekh Ismaaciil Aadan Xaaji ayaa sheegay in ay la socdaan abaabul ciidan ee jira degmada Dooloow ee gobolkan ,kaasoo ay wadaan saraakiishii hore ee maamulada Gedo Iyo Jubbooyinka. Gudoomiyaha ayaa ka digay khatarta ka fool leh dagaal ka dhaca gobolka gedo oo ay ka jiraan abaaro iyo biyo la’aan,taasi darteedna loo baahanyahay in loo joojiyo gulufka colaadeed. Masuulkan ayaa carabka ku dhajiyay in ay ogyihiin dhaqdhaqaaq ciidan ee ka socda Doolow iyo diyaargaroow ciidan oo halkaasi ka jira. Sheekh Ismaaciil Aadan Xaaji ayaa digniin adag u diray dad uu ku sheegay in ay la shaqeeyaanu saraakiisha ku sugan magaalada doolow islamar ahaantaasina waxa uu si cad u tilmaamay in ay qoorta ka jarayaan cid kastaa oo lagu arkaa iyada oo la shaqeynayso xoogaga ku sugan magaalada Doolow. “ Waynu Biraynaynaa, qoorta ayaynu ka jireenaa cidii walaahi lagu arkaa iyaga oo la shaqaysaysa murtadiinta iyo munaafaqiinta”. Hadalka Sheekh Ismaaciil Aadan Xaaji Waaliga Xarakatul Mujaahidiin Alshabaab ee G/ Gedo ayaa imaanaya xilli dhawaan Col Warfaa Sh Aadan uu shaaciyay in ay duulaan ku yihiin shan gobol oo ay kamid yihiin Gedo,Jubbada Dhexe,Jubbada Hoose. Maxamed Gaarane Aadan SBC International- Baledxaawo-

^^^ Plus Talaal never pretends to be religuious he is the Jay Z of reer Saud all blinged out.

^^^East Enders and Albert square, oh how I dont miss the eastend at all for that matter.

Lool @ NGOONE: Nice one saxib. 1. Roots: The Saga of a secessionist family: TV Drama staring: Faisal Ali Warrabe, Edna Adan, cameo by Sandra Jackson as the Queen. Faisal plays a man held in a mental asylum who repeatedly makes boastful claims to inmates that Queen Elizabeth II is his mother.

Thats an oxymoron, no such thing. one can be Somali, Pakistani and Arab and be, but Islam is a afaith and thus once you belive you are such a thing then no longer can you call yourself a Muslim.

Gaddafi and his date with 700 Italian women So many questions. How did Silvio Berlusconi and Colonel Gaddafi become friends in the first place? Even more pressingly, how did Muammar Gaddafi - expeller of Libyan Italians, aggressive-wearer of sandals, unelected thug, deployer of hit squads, scourge of civil rights - how did this man come to refashion himself as a great friend to the females of Europe? The highlight of Gaddafi's trip to Rome is a meeting, personally requested by the Libyan leader, with 700 women from the worlds of "politics, industry and culture". So Berlusconi got down his Bumper Catalogue of Hot Stuff, got rid of any that were over 25, discarded those with a loud voice or body hair, and whittled down the rest by ballot until he got to 1,000, whereupon the disappointed remainder that didn't get to meet Muammar were given a senior post in his cabinet or a mini-break in his fancy villa with the pools and the elephants. Before we start thinking this is just a pact of weirdness between two profoundly weird men, it is not the first time Gaddafi has extended the hand of friendship to the ladies of Europa (I do not mean the convenience store chain; I am romanticising the continent, trying to get into the mind of the mighty dictator). Two years ago in Paris, he met 1,000 French women. His message was clear: he wanted to "save European women". There is a question mark over his credentials in this area: he points to the proportion of women in the Libyan workforce, which has gone from 6% to 20% in 40 years. Those stats have been bolstered, though, by Gaddafi's stringently equal ops hiring policy with bodyguards: his entourage includes 40 female heavies. His cred is undercut further by an astonishingly poor human rights record that sees women in Libya locked up in "social rehabilitation centres" for crimes such as "being raped", "being orphaned" and "being poor". Perhaps he plans to save us western ladies from due process and the rule of law? God knows, those things are incredibly boring. A final question: when does Berlusconi officially tip over into "laughing stock"?

^^^Garowe does not even know your existance let alone care. But anyhow at least you admited you know of that mad utterence and pretence, the Queen is alive and she does not know ya, much like Garowe and its inhabitants.

^^^No bother my sister from Mudug has money, and alas can afford drinking water. Your institutions are based on giving to those who have. Riiyaale & Ducale are prime examples. But change a little and give the poor people some water, boasting to me is not that important.

^^^Adeer now you are speaking for her? lol. That’s the problem here, reer Hargaysa want to boast by hosting Maryan Mursal while the locals are rioting heavily because there is no water in the city! Lad priorities don’t boast to me about my sister from Mudug, go get clean water for the population. :rolleyes: Mob runs riot as part of Hargeisa runs out of water: date 08 June 2009 | News from Hargeisa, Somaliland (Somaliland Globe)- source

^^^Adeer Maryan Mursal is not going to get you recognized, alas pretending to be the orphans of the Queen of England in the naked pursuit of recognition was beyond primitive it was asinine. Now go and try stopping Shankaroon from escaping in order to date a member of the famous Indian ocean Coast guard.

What happened to all the demos in the west led by the ever vocal “Mogadishu society”? What happened to the religious leaders and Mosques who used to raise money for the “Mujahididn” in defense of the faith? Are the 100,000 who fled the city over the last few weeks not Somali”, not as valuable as those over the last few years? Is the fighting and fighters now more holier now? The Duke never took you seriously and now this is proof that all those who emotionally ran around the world in the single aim of preventing the restoration of the state did not care about the peoples suffering. They in fact were adding to this suffering by sustaining the likes of Xasan Dahir and hiding the real criminals under the clan robe.

UN says War Crimes Committed Daily in Somalia Fighting 10 Jun 10, 2009 - 8:53:59 PM As an international meeting on Somalia gets under way in Rome, U.N. agencies say that war crimes and crimes against humanity are being committed on a daily basis in the Somali capital, Mogadishu. For the past month, Islamist insurgents have been battling pro-government forces in the heaviest fighting the capital has seen in years. According to the U.N. children's and refugee agencies, all sides in the fighting have flaunted humanitarian principles by ignoring the safety of civilians. Fighters have shelled civilian areas, forcibly recruited children to join militias, and raped women. The U.N. refugee agency says 117,000 civilians have been displaced since early May, when the latest round of clashes began. UNICEF's acting representative for Somalia, Hannan Suleiman, says this is the most concentrated displacement of civilians the city has seen in years. "It is certainly the highest we have seen in Somalia for many, many years,"Suleiman said. "We have not seen this number of people in such a short period of time being displaced." The latest fighting pits Islamist insurgents from the al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam militias against government soldiers and pro-government militias. Insurgents have also targeted the roughly 4,000 African Union peacekeepers from Uganda and Burundi who are deployed in Mogadishu. More than 200 people have been killed in the past month, according to most estimates. Suleiman says women and children have been particularly affected by the conflict. She says there are reports that boys as young as nine-years old have been recruited to join militias. "And they are being used on the front line,"Suleiman said. "This is in direct contravention of the child-rights convention, and with the laws governing combat, which state that the use of children under 15 years old in combat is a war crime with legal consequences. And we do have reports that children under 15 are being recruited by all sides in the conflict." UNICEF says at least 34 schools in the city have been occupied by fighters at some point since the start of the year, and many families have been separated. There are reports of rape and other sexual violence against women who have been displaced. The insurgents are seeking to overthrow the fragile internationally-back ed government led by President Sharif Sheikh Ahmed. President Ahmed is a moderate Islamist and a former insurgent leader, but his opponents say he is not committed to Islam and is too close to the United States and Ethiopia. The government, as well as international diplomats, have accused Eritrea of backing the insurgents. An international meeting to discuss the conflict is underway in Rome. The two-day meeting features representatives from more than 35 countries and international organizations. The meeting will discuss the security situation, as well as the problem of piracy off the coast. Source: VOA

UN says War Crimes Committed Daily in Somalia Fighting 10 Jun 10, 2009 - 8:53:59 PM As an international meeting on Somalia gets under way in Rome, U.N. agencies say that war crimes and crimes against humanity are being committed on a daily basis in the Somali capital, Mogadishu. For the past month, Islamist insurgents have been battling pro-government forces in the heaviest fighting the capital has seen in years. According to the U.N. children's and refugee agencies, all sides in the fighting have flaunted humanitarian principles by ignoring the safety of civilians. Fighters have shelled civilian areas, forcibly recruited children to join militias, and raped women. The U.N. refugee agency says 117,000 civilians have been displaced since early May, when the latest round of clashes began. UNICEF's acting representative for Somalia, Hannan Suleiman, says this is the most concentrated displacement of civilians the city has seen in years. "It is certainly the highest we have seen in Somalia for many, many years,"Suleiman said. "We have not seen this number of people in such a short period of time being displaced." The latest fighting pits Islamist insurgents from the al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam militias against government soldiers and pro-government militias. Insurgents have also targeted the roughly 4,000 African Union peacekeepers from Uganda and Burundi who are deployed in Mogadishu. More than 200 people have been killed in the past month, according to most estimates. Suleiman says women and children have been particularly affected by the conflict. She says there are reports that boys as young as nine-years old have been recruited to join militias. "And they are being used on the front line,"Suleiman said. "This is in direct contravention of the child-rights convention, and with the laws governing combat, which state that the use of children under 15 years old in combat is a war crime with legal consequences. And we do have reports that children under 15 are being recruited by all sides in the conflict." UNICEF says at least 34 schools in the city have been occupied by fighters at some point since the start of the year, and many families have been separated. There are reports of rape and other sexual violence against women who have been displaced. The insurgents are seeking to overthrow the fragile internationally-back ed government led by President Sharif Sheikh Ahmed. President Ahmed is a moderate Islamist and a former insurgent leader, but his opponents say he is not committed to Islam and is too close to the United States and Ethiopia. The government, as well as international diplomats, have accused Eritrea of backing the insurgents. An international meeting to discuss the conflict is underway in Rome. The two-day meeting features representatives from more than 35 countries and international organizations. The meeting will discuss the security situation, as well as the problem of piracy off the coast. Source: VOA

^^^Desperate adeer are those who are now seeking recognition from singer Maryan Mursal.

Maryan Mursal will always be a Puntlander, she is, her sons are and her family have always been reer Mudug Puntland Somali's. Hannibal you dont know what you are talking about as usual. She is getting paid, like Dahir Riyaale and the rest at the expense of yourself and your secessionist artists.

ABWAN: Why are you all hot, bothered and upset, your waffle and ignorance are breathtaking. In one instance you say you have been to “all over Somalia” yet you state in the same breath that you have never been to Hobyo one of the largest dwellings in your birth regions? That makes little sense or are you now like looter extraordinaire Ahmed Diriye pretending to have been born in Mogadishu? Obviously you were born after 1993 right.

^^^Why are you not demonstrating now against the killings in Mogadishu? Adeer dont open your mouth against the religious leaders they knew it was what it is today. Fitna started by your likes. The difference is today they are pretending to fight for Islam. The Ulema have said no its not.

Sayid: Kindly seek help you are talking to yourself. PS dont try to ruin the thread.

Wacdaro: I think heavy armour does give an advantage, however a comprehensive plan needs to be put in place and more determined leadership.

^^^ABWAN: Spare us the crocodile tears lad. Somaliweyn, Garowenline & Hatuf are the sites reporting this. Its a tragic story if true, and I can undertsand JB's response he lives in Hargaysa and it effects him he is a player in this movie. You are lost, you dont even know where AWDAL is, and its not near Hobyo dear lad.